Cable Forum - Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Let's hope that Theresa May negotiates a deal with the EU that is more focused on keeping the UK together and less focused on appeasing the leader writers of the Brexit press.

No, No, No.

Nicola Sturgeon is trying to use this ploy in an attempt to water down the Brexit deal. Don't be conned by her deceptively playing on the emotions of people who don't want to see the UK broken up.

Theresa May should focus on a hard Brexit, with the best deal possible. Then (and only then) after Brext is completed, deal with a Scottish referendum.

nashville

14-03-2017 23:26

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Originally Posted by weenie (Post 35889958)

I personally will be voting NO again and I'm quite sure so will the majority. I'm sick of hearing and reading let them go and can we let Wales, England and Northern Ireland have a vote. I do wonder does it ever cross the minds of the people who write such comments that many Scots do not want this!

I agree with you Weenie, We do not want this again and there she is on her high horse again, God Help Us

Stephen

14-03-2017 23:37

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Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35890031)

I agree with you Weenie, We do not want this again and there she is on her high horse again, God Help Us

Totally agree.

I have still got a group of friends fixated on getting independence and will try to shoot down anything anyone says to the contrary.

For example I shared the petition about not having another one and was met with

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The voters were fed lies by English led right wing media and bully boy tactics from those in favour of a No vote...Then the "Vow" came right at the last minute and that was a pile of ******** too.

The goalposts have been moved now, so in all fairness its a 2nd referendum under different circumstances, especially as Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU.

:dunce:

Damien

15-03-2017 06:34

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35890027)

Scotland In Union was formed immediately after the referendum and has been campaigning ever since. They rock up in one town centre or another every weekend. It's small but it's a start they claim to have about 15,000 registered supporters.

Www.scotlandinunion.co.uk

Whenever another referendum happens, it needs to be fronted by a non politician. Sturgeon will find it very hard to deal with, as her rhetoric is very heavily reliant on attacking people for their political affiliations rather than on their arguments.

Thanks, not quite as bad a situation as I thought. The Unionists need to start preparing now.

Kursk

15-03-2017 13:42

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35889976)

If you live in Scotland, please sign this.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/180642

Well over 100k and rising...

Mick	16-03-2017 14:05

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Theresa May Denies Nicola Sturgeon's demand for Second Scottish Referendum. *

http://news.sky.com/story/pm-tells-s...endum-10803625

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The bitter battle between the PM and Nicola Sturgeon escalates as Theresa May rules out a second independence vote before 2020.

* For now.

Damien

16-03-2017 14:09

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It's reasonable to wait until after Brexit but not too long after IMO.

pip08456

16-03-2017 14:19

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35890291)

It's reasonable to wait until after Brexit but not too long after IMO.

Perhaps the best time would be after the next Scottish election which would confirm that the Scots actually wanted independence based on any Brexit deal providing the SNP ended up in the majority again.

That way the Scots would have voted a party back in on a manifesto of independence making their will known.

Sturgeons posturing needs to be proved by the will of the people and IMHO another election win for her would be the icing on the cake.

It also allows the electorate time for reflection following Brexit rather than a knee-jerk reaction.

techguyone

16-03-2017 14:26

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Thi9s will be the end of the European BS, I think Nippy was hoping to sneak in and join/stay in the EU before we left & swap one union for another, well this will well and truly put paid to that, I think once a 'real risk' referendum comes along, they'll all evaporate like the snowflakes they are.

Mick	16-03-2017 14:26

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35890291)

It's reasonable to wait until after Brexit but not too long after IMO.

In 2014, Brent oil was twice the price it is today. If in 2014, it had been an Independent vote, it would have been a more comfortable, prosperous time.

But now I believe Brent Oil is now around $48.50 a Barrel, that's a $150 Billion black hole that would need to be filled on day one of a Scottish Independence. They would also be out of the EU, they would be out of the NATO alliance and once they were accepted back in to the EU, they would have to adopt the Euro. Now rejoining will not be so easy, Spain will be twitching their noses and have already said, Scotland will be at the back of the Queue.

Chris

16-03-2017 14:26

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It looks increasingly as if they're thinking about legislating for a referendum with a sunrise clause, so it can't happen before a certain date. 2020 is the very earliest they would allow it, it seems, however I think a date in 2021 is worth an each-way bet. That would make it the key issue of the next Holyrood election.

Damien

16-03-2017 14:33

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35890298)

As I said I think it's 50/50 if they'll go Independent but I also we have a better chance if we do it whilst their case is weak.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35890299)

Maybe the Tories will get enough seats to prevent a SNP majority but with Corbyn being as useless as he is, and possibly even campaigning for a Yes vote, I think it won't help much.

I think May should have announced what you said though. The way she has done makes it easy for the Nats to spin it as the referendum being blocked.

Chris

16-03-2017 14:35

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Just watching the live press conference in Edinburgh with Ruth Davidson and David Mundell, and it's painfully obvious who's wearing the troosers :D

Damien

16-03-2017 14:38

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35890302)

Just watching the live press conference in Edinburgh with Ruth Davidson and David Mundell, and it's painfully obvious who's wearing the troosers :D

Well I imagine they'll be pretty easy to spot unless they're behind podiums or a desk?

Kursk

16-03-2017 16:40

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35890302)

Just watching the live press conference in Edinburgh with Ruth Davidson and David Mundell, and it's painfully obvious who's wearing the troosers :D

NEWSFLASH: President Trump exposed in inclement weather:

Let the winds blow high,
Let the winds blow low,
Down the street in my kilt I go
And all the lassies say hello
Donald where's your troosers?

:D

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