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papa smurf 26-04-2025 11:46
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Andrea Jenkyns says she's 'smear campaign survivor' as complaint dismissed
Controversy had risen over whether the Reform candidate could claim to live in Lincolnshire

https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/n...smear-10134276

Sephiroth 26-04-2025 11:54
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36195461)
Not a single person on a boat has put peoples mortgages up, underfunded the NHS or spaffed £32bn to their mates for faulty PPE.
Er-
- They get priority medical treatment from the underfunded NHS;
- They get priority free dental treatment not available to most people;
- They are housed in conditions well superior to the homeless UK people;
- They get 3 meals a day and AFAIK, catered to their preferred cuisine;
- They have been filmed singing Jihadi songs;
- They are here to milk our benefits system at "best";
- They are here to commit crimes at worst.

Your mortgages point is a red herring and the "spaffed £32 bn" point shows that you really don't understand the threat facing the UK.

Reform UK fully understands and points this out.

Russ 26-04-2025 14:31
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Nothing I've said is a red herring, and for spaffing £32bn just see Bullshitting Boris and his cronies from the start of the pandemic. Not to mention the £5bn of that Sunak decided to write off.

And they're singing hurty songs? How quaint. Just ignore them, I do.

And the benefits and crimes? I agree, I demand ALL criminals and benefit scroungers be white British born people ONLY.

By the way, illegal immigrants can apply for priority care. Doesn't mean they'll get it.

Neither do they get housed in 'superior' conditions. Why? Because...and get this.... they're illegal.

I'm sure reform are aware of all this and selectively ignore it.

Itshim 26-04-2025 17:45
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36195464)
Er-
- They get priority medical treatment from the underfunded NHS;
- They get priority free dental treatment not available to most people;
- They are housed in conditions well superior to the homeless UK people;
- They get 3 meals a day and AFAIK, catered to their preferred cuisine;
- They have been filmed singing Jihadi songs;
- They are here to milk our benefits system at "best";
- They are here to commit crimes at worst.

Your mortgages point is a red herring and the "spaffed £32 bn" point shows that you really don't understand the threat facing the UK.

Reform UK fully understands and points this out.
Don't give them anything at all, that will stop them

Russ 26-04-2025 23:06
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Great to know that if you’re a a decent working class person Reform are happy to erode your employment rights.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...rs-rights-vote

Still, let’s get rid of those boat people eh?

Pierre 26-04-2025 23:49
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36195530)
Great to know that if you’re a a decent working class person Reform are happy to erode your employment rights.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...rs-rights-vote

Still, let’s get rid of those boat people eh?
Well let’s look at it.

Quote:
banning exploitative zero-hours contracts and day-one access to sick pay, they have voted to deny millions basic protections at work.
How is not having day one access to sick pay..”exploitative”? Why should any employer have to provide that? It’s totally unreasonable.

Paul 27-04-2025 03:08
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I'm curious how not banning zero hours contracts is "denying a basic protection" ?

Quote:
Despite the lack of guaranteed hours, zero-hours workers still have the same statutory rights as other employees, including the right to the National Minimum Wage and statutory annual leave.
Also, isnt it really easy to get around anyway ?
Just offer a 5 minute a week contract, perfectly legal as far as I can tell.

Sephiroth 27-04-2025 11:00
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36195530)
Great to know that if you’re a a decent working class person Reform are happy to erode your employment rights.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...rs-rights-vote

Still, let’s get rid of those boat people eh?
The fact that you pray in aid the Morning Star speaks volumes.

The unions will (once again) bring Britain too its knees, if they get their way.

Itshim 27-04-2025 11:31
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36195536)
The fact that you pray in aid the Morning Star speaks volumes.

The unions will (once again) bring Britain too its knees, if they get their way.
Unions have long been the main reason that British industry is such a mess.

OLD BOY 27-04-2025 13:03
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36195532)
Well let’s look at it.



How is not having day one access to sick pay..”exploitative”? Why should any employer have to provide that? It’s totally unreasonable.
Agreed, and zero hours contracts offer people a flexibility that will now be denied to them. They also offer employers the flexibility they need for work that is very variable in its requirements for labour. By making these contracts subject to a minimum number of hours per week, employers will instead offer overtime to full timers and the people benefiting with the flexibility of zero hours contracts through family commitments or whatever will lose out.

It’s Labour’s warped thinking on workers’ rights that Farage is calling out, and people with logic can see that he’s right.

If people want regular earnings, they should be applying for part time or full time contracts.

---------- Post added at 13:03 ---------- Previous post was at 13:00 ----------

The Conservatives are polling so badly that they are now seriously contemplating a coalition with Reform UK. As Farage has ruled that out, it is clear that the two parties will be standing separately at the next election, but of course if Reform is only able to get into power or make its decisions stick with some sort of accommodation with the Conservatives, things could change.

Unless voters change their minds radically before the next election, I can see Farage becoming our next Prime Minister in the biggest political upset in this country I have experienced.

One of the Conservatives’ biggest donors has now transferred his allegiance to Reform UK with a donation of £1m and he expects others to follow. Expect also an increasing number of defections from Conservatives to Reform in the meantime, which will boost Reform’s credibility with the public.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...tories-smiling

1andrew1 01-05-2025 17:23
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Slippery when questioned!
Quote:
Ed Balls and Richard Tice clash as Reform MP fails to answer question 12 times

Former shadow chancellor Ed Balls and Reform UK MP Richard Tice clashed on Good Morning Britain on Wednesday (30 April), after the latter failed repeatedly to give a cost estimate for nationalising British Steel.

Mr Tice said it was "cheaper" and a "lot more cost-effective", that he had an "expert" advising him, and that he has a "good idea" of the sum - but he did not provide an exact figure despite being asked several times.

At one point, after Mr Tice addressed his interviewer as "my dear Ed", Mr Balls replied: "Don't patronise me, answer the question."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...16708e81&ei=36

Itshim 01-05-2025 17:27
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36195815)
If you are paying you may well own it :D

Pierre 01-05-2025 19:20
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36195815)
Watched PMQ’s recently? Starmer never answers a question?….ever.

All politicians are the same.


Also amusing that a former Shadow Labour minister is attacking a right wing politician for suggesting taking British Steel into public ownership. The world has certainly changed.

1andrew1 01-05-2025 21:53
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36195825)
Watched PMQ’s recently? Starmer never answers a question?….ever.

All politicians are the same.

Also amusing that a former Shadow Labour minister is attacking a right wing politician for suggesting taking British Steel into public ownership. The world has certainly changed.
He's being attacked for not answering the question, not for his policies. If Tice says that nationalisation is cheaper, he needs to substantiate his claim like any other politician.

The days of Reform UK being given free passes are hopefully behind us. They're a major Party now.

Hugh 01-05-2025 22:03
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36195831)
He's being attacked for not answering the question, not for his policies. If Tice says that nationalisation is cheaper, he needs to substantiate his claim like any other politician.

The days of Reform UK being given free passes are hopefully behind us. They're a major Party now.
Just like the Green Party…


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