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papa smurf 10-09-2024 16:14
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36182765)
Today i am so glad i did not vote for the bunch of muppets in power now. I can sleep easy knowing that i have not contributed to the eventual deaths of pensioners this winter, i await the response from the labour supporters who believe that Labour have done well by voting in this cut. The train drivers will be loving all the extra money at the expense of the pensioners.
Thousands of pensioners might die of hypothermia but on the pluss side mick jagger won't get £200:td:

mrmistoffelees 10-09-2024 16:20
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36182765)
Today i am so glad i did not vote for the bunch of muppets in power now. I can sleep easy knowing that i have not contributed to the eventual deaths of pensioners this winter, i await the response from the labour supporters who believe that Labour have done well by voting in this cut. The train drivers will be loving all the extra money at the expense of the pensioners.
Perhaps before you pontificate further you could answer the following. What are the estimated excess deaths caused by austerity ? Cuts to public services etc ?

Sleep easy……

Escapee 10-09-2024 17:07
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36182753)
This I more akin to them increasing your salary to £900 but taking away an annual bonus you got of £300 if we're making that comparison.

Anyway, I think Labour should delay it a year. This takes us past this 10% increase in energy bills and allows another year of triple lock to kick in.
Not forgetting the savings we should have by then from GB Energy;)

papa smurf 10-09-2024 18:09
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My local MP voted for the deaths of pensioners.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2609340.html

Julian 10-09-2024 18:23
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And every one of those voting for pensioners to be killed can claim their £3500 heating allowance.

The sweet smell of hypocrisy.

papa smurf 10-09-2024 18:26
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36182775)
And every one of those voting for pensioners to be killed can claim their £3500 heating allowance.

The sweet smell of hypocrisy.
Thats champagne socialists for you.

Hugh 10-09-2024 18:37
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36182776)
Thats champagne socialists for you.
And Kemi Badenoch (and those Conservative MPs who voted for her in the 2022 Leadership Election)…

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/kemi-baden...093446081.html

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She said: “There is a lot of dead weight in how we run government. I have people in my constituency telling me that they don’t need the winter fuel payments that we give them because they can afford it. Why do we not have a more sophisticated mechanism for means-testing?”

Paul 10-09-2024 18:37
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Just to add a little reality to all this.
Remember that energy is cheaper this year (winter).

The Energy cap last winter (Oct-Dec) was £1834 and then £1928 (Jan-Mar).
This year its only £1717 (Oct-Dec) and predicted to be about £1740 (Jan-Mar).

So £117 cheaper for Oct-Dec this year, and around £188 cheaper in Jan-Mar.

Hugh 10-09-2024 18:39
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36182778)
Just to add a little reality to all this.
Remember that energy is cheaper this year (winter).

The Energy cap last winter (Oct-Dec) was £1834 and then £1928 (Jan-Mar).
This year its only £1717 (Oct-Dec) and predicted to be about £1740 (Jan-Mar).

So £117 cheaper for Oct-Dec this year, and around £188 cheaper in Jan-Mar.
And the last State Pension rise was £900 in April 2024…

I don’t understand why they don’t delay it until they can find a way of targeting at those most in need (just ask HMRC for a file if those who have incomes of less than £nn,nnn, then match the payments on NI number).

Pierre 10-09-2024 18:59
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36182768)
Perhaps before you pontificate further you could answer the following. What are the estimated excess deaths caused by austerity ? Cuts to public services etc ?
Don’t know, you tell us.

Not sure giving train drivers £50K+ saved too many lives.

Pierre 10-09-2024 22:01
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Can somebody help Rachel Reeves with her memory? She seems to have forgotten something she said she’d never forget.

Pierre 10-09-2024 22:08
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I couldn’t vote today as I was at the dentist…………

But if I wasn’t at the dentist I would definitely 100% have voted against the government, they’re so nasty.

I’m 100% for pensioners and when the time comes to increase taxes on your private pension my pledge to you is that I’ll be at the chiropodist……….

Escapee 10-09-2024 22:09
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36182765)
Today i am so glad i did not vote for the bunch of muppets in power now. I can sleep easy knowing that i have not contributed to the eventual deaths of pensioners this winter, i await the response from the labour supporters who believe that Labour have done well by voting in this cut. The train drivers will be loving all the extra money at the expense of the pensioners.
I expect that the train drivers will only be loving it until the budget, then we will most likely be back to square one with them demanding more.

Damien 10-09-2024 23:14
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36182780)
Don’t know, you tell us.

Not sure giving train drivers £50K+ saved too many lives.
He is referring to the Tories freezing other benefits over the last decade. Working age benefits, child tax credits and so on have been reduced/frozen for a long time now. As well as making it harder for people to claim disability benefits.

nomadking 11-09-2024 05:32
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36182793)
He is referring to the Tories freezing other benefits over the last decade. Working age benefits, child tax credits and so on have been reduced/frozen for a long time now. As well as making it harder for people to claim disability benefits.
Benefits went up by the rate of inflation, as they always have done. It was the salaries of Ministers that were frozen.


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