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I think this has been 10 years - 15 years even - in the making. Iraq seems to have destroyed America's confidence on the world stage and each subsequent President after Bush has been increasingly isolationist as has the American public. Even now the sentiment in America seems to be 'why is this anything to do with us?'. There is even a ******* on Fox News having a go at what actions the American Government is taking because Putin is not their problem.

People have long had a go at America being the 'world police' but in the absence of any police then thugs and gangsters seize the opportunity.

As for Britain we, and other European NATO nations, need to wake up and take more of this responsibility on for ourselves rather than look to America.

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Didn't Russia invade Georgia when the World was distracted by the Global Financial Crisis to dissuade it from becoming a NATO member and too friendly to the West?

Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are all NATO members so I can't see them being next.

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Yes, the US is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't intervene!

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America relies on other NATO members to quite an extent.....

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I wonder what the Lebdevs think of the situation?

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/10/21/b...ar-friendship/

Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
 

Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
 

Apparently, it was to "coerce Georgia into peace"…

https://academic.oup.com/ia/article-...xt&login=false

Some interesting foresight in the article of nearly 14 years ago…

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Whether we like it or not, we’re now plunged in to the early stages of World War III

Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
 

Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
 

Heh, I live not too far from Northwood Headquarters. It was nice knowing you all!

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I do not think it will come to that. Putin will end up getting what he wants and the rest of the world will blow hard make noises but end realising they are powerless to stop him. As long as he stops with the Ukraine of course. If he does decide to go further then yes we could well end up there

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Putin will go there, the Baltic states are next, he is absolutely determined to build back Soviet Union as it was.

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BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson, to address nation at 12 Noon and will update MPs at 5pm in the House of Commons.

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Meanwhile:
Nato Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg announces the activation of defence plans in response to Russia invading Ukraine. NATO held an emergency meeting at the request of neighbouring countries to Ukraine, who feel their territory is under threat.

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I just don't know how sane he is.

If by Baltic states, we mean Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia then they're all in NATO so fellow NATO members like the UK will be obliged to defend their territorial integrity.

A sane Russian leader would not attack a NATO member.

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Putin's sanity is in question right now his televised speeches have become more and more delusional and his deployment of forces to the border with China now makes more sense.

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Brussels: Russia facing complete shut off from World trade Markets in a allied and massive targeted response to this act of aggression.

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