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papa smurf 02-09-2020 11:53

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36048419)
That's still fine though as they tend to be British companies getting the commission. The BBC doesn't have to be a monolithic organisation, it can be just as valuable as a resource for British work to get put into screen.

One of the roles of the BBC is to promote and cultivate British artists. A lot of musical acts got their first radio play from the BBC and a lot of writers/actors started off at the BBC.

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Bit rich to complain about people bringing down British identity and then too to complain of varied accents on advertising. We don't all speak in received pronunciation. Britain has always had varied accents.

There's Lincolnshire and there's foreign ;)

nomadking 02-09-2020 11:54

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The most important thing about any accent used, is that it must be clearly understood by the majority.

papa smurf 02-09-2020 11:55

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36048434)
Whose language has it corrupted? It doesn’t affect the way I talk, or any of my kids. Sub cultural forms of expression come and go.

I see you've never watched eastenders init.

Damien 02-09-2020 12:00

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36048433)
I've no problem with traditional UK accents. But this gangland type London speak, which corrupts the language, is a step too far for me and a lot of people, I suggest.

You're talking about using words like 'fam', 'bruv' and 'innit' right?

That kind of accent and language has been around in London for a few decades at least now. Those are proper British/London accents which you can easily identify. London has all kinds of dialects and if enough people speak it, and they're British, then it's as proper a dialect as any others. It was cocky before that for example.

downquark1 02-09-2020 12:02

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The English have often had incomprehensible accents. My father worked for a farmer who was completely English and that I literally could not understand.

My concern is more the political manipulation of language the BBC seems to do like "Sexual assault survivor" and "Decolonising the curriculum". This are things that were never used in the language before and do not actually make sense on their own terms.

Pierre 02-09-2020 12:53

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36048419)
Bit rich to complain about people bringing down British identity and then too to complain of varied accents on advertising. We don't all speak in received pronunciation. Britain has always had varied accents.

I've no problem with the BBC having "correct" accents, I can't think of anything worse than a newsreader/ presenter with a broad Scouse, Brummie, Geordie, etc accent.

and that's comes from someone born and bred in Liverpool.

Another accent I hate, I can only describe it as Generic female middle clasee southern accent, where there is a little croak in the voice to. Goes through me like nails on a black board.

Mad Max 02-09-2020 12:58

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36048421)
I hardly think it’s trolling to point out that the BBC, by any reasonable measure, are part of the Establishment.


You know this, how? Or is it just your usual warped view of everything and anything that anyone else posts which is different from your views?

jfman 02-09-2020 13:34

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36048454)
You know this, how? Or is it just your usual warped view of everything and anything that anyone else posts which is different from your views?

Oddly, you are the only person that has contested the point.

I can only assume you deny the existence of an Establishment at all and that all our political, business and leaders within the media are there on merit. They all got to Oxford and Cambridge on merit, and it didn’t matter that Daddy was the 39th Lord something and cousin of King George VI.

Somewhat naive if so.

Damien 02-09-2020 13:35

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36048451)
I've no problem with the BBC having "correct" accents, I can't think of anything worse than a newsreader/ presenter with a broad Scouse, Brummie, Geordie, etc accent.

Newsreaders are different because their purpose is to be clear. You always hear the weakest/most general of any given accent on BBC News/BBC Radio.

Sephiroth 02-09-2020 14:19

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Maybe the new DG has just saved the BBC. A small choir in the Albert Hall will lead the nation into the songs so deprecated by the woke minority.

GrimUpNorth 02-09-2020 14:23

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36048461)
Oddly, you are the only person that has contested the point.

I can only assume you deny the existence of an Establishment at all and that all our political, business and leaders within the media are there on merit. They all got to Oxford and Cambridge on merit, and it didn’t matter that Daddy was the 39th Lord something and cousin of King George VI.

Somewhat naive if so.

You don't really have to look too far back in the list of past BBC DG's to find the bit in bold falls in to the category of a crock of shit, but hey I suppose it sounds good if you say it confidently enough. Are we maybe seeing the old green eyed monster showing its head?

jfman 02-09-2020 15:07

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36048473)
You don't really have to look too far back in the list of past BBC DG's to find the bit in bold falls in to the category of a crock of shit, but hey I suppose it sounds good if you say it confidently enough. Are we maybe seeing the old green eyed monster showing its head?

The Director General is but one position. I suppose Durham is nice too. Maybe not St. Andrews but up there.

I fail to see how pointing out that patronage and nepotism are a common part of public life in the United Kingdom, including at the BBC, is “the green eyed monster”.

Sephiroth 02-09-2020 15:44

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36048477)
The Director General is but one position. I suppose Durham is nice too. Maybe not St. Andrews but up there.

I fail to see how pointing out that patronage and nepotism are a common part of public life in the United Kingdom, including at the BBC, is “the green eyed monster”.

Quite few media Alumni went to Durham - but no DG.
Know it well - my son studied there.

jfman 02-09-2020 18:57

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36048479)
Quite few media Alumni went to Durham - but no DG.
Know it well - my son studied there.

And was his mind corrupted by left wing lecturers and tutors? ;)

Sephiroth 02-09-2020 20:39

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36048503)
And was his mind corrupted by left wing lecturers and tutors? ;)

No - Software Engineering doesn't attract lefties.

But my daughter's mind was so corrupted at Sussex. We've only just got her mind right - 12 years later. Some of the woke is still there - like multi-culturalism which just doesn't work and which some cultures just don't do.


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