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Raider999 26-02-2018 20:01

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35938619)
Looks like sports streaming is starting to take off.

https://advanced-television.com/2018...aming-records/


Minority sports though (and presumably free)- time to crow when premier league or similar is being streamed.

If subscribing costs as much as the NRL streaming, starting next week (£22pm) I cannot see there being that many takers.

denphone 27-02-2018 04:45

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35938652)
Minority sports though (and presumably free)- time to crow when premier league or similar is being streamed.

If subscribing costs as much as the NRL streaming, starting next week (£22pm) I cannot see there being that many takers.

£22 for that they are indeed having a laugh.:td:

OLD BOY 27-02-2018 08:32

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35938683)
£22 for that they are indeed having a laugh.:td:

I continue to be amazed at the sums of money people are willing to pay to watch sport. And yet they do!

muppetman11 27-02-2018 10:22

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35938698)
I continue to be amazed at the sums of money people are willing to pay to watch sport. And yet they do!

I continue to be amazed by people that tell us there's nothing worth watching on the pay TV channels and it's all about streaming but who continue to subscribe and pay for Virgin TV.

denphone 27-02-2018 11:08

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35938717)
I continue to be amazed by people that tell us there's nothing worth watching on the pay TV channels and it's all about streaming but who continue to subscribe and pay for Virgin TV.

Yes l wonder who springs to mind.:D

OLD BOY 27-02-2018 13:22

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35938717)
I continue to be amazed by people that tell us there's nothing worth watching on the pay TV channels and it's all about streaming but who continue to subscribe and pay for Virgin TV.

Well, I've never said that, and yet again, what I have said is either deliberately twisted, misremembered or not understood.

What I have said is that pay tv is poor value for money when you compare what's on there with terrestrial TV and streaming services.

As I have said more than once, I pay for the Sky channels to ensure that my wife and I don't miss out on the small number of shows that are worth watching. With the subscriptions pitched as high as they are, and the relatively small amount of watchable material on the non-premium Sky channels, I really think we are being ripped off. If the choice on Sky continues to deteriorate, I may well give up subscribing to this service, but at the moment I am waiting for developments that provide me with a better, comprehensive service, probably through cheaper or better value 'on demand' or new cloud options.

Raider999 27-02-2018 16:57

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35938698)
I continue to be amazed at the sums of money people are willing to pay to watch sport. And yet they do!


Certainly not me, I like to watch NRL , I even subscribed to Premier Sports at £11pm to do so last year.

£22 to watch streamed content of 8 matches a week is taking the p!ss, at least Prem Sports had other content for half the price.

If this is the way streaming is taking us it certainly isn't a change for the better.

pip08456 27-02-2018 17:55

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Streaming services will only be able to charge silly prices when idiots will pay it.

Simple supply and demand.

OLD BOY 07-03-2018 18:16

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This is an interesting response to the commercial free environment presented by OTT services. Fox is planning to reduce the number of commercial services on its channels to 2 minutes per hour!

Well, what do you know, we didn't see that coming!

http://uk.businessinsider.com/fox-pl...18-3?r=US&IR=T

Whereas some streaming services are moving in the opposite direction by adding commercials to their subscription service!

http://www.v-net.tv/2018/01/25/fubot...-programmatic/

The future looks interesting, but including commercials within subscription streaming services is unwelcome. Hopefully, this will not catch on.

Raider999 07-03-2018 20:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35939874)
This is an interesting response to the commercial free environment presented by OTT services. Fox is planning to reduce the number of commercial services on its channels to 2 minutes per hour!

Well, what do you know, we didn't see that coming!

http://uk.businessinsider.com/fox-pl...18-3?r=US&IR=T

Whereas some streaming services are moving in the opposite direction by adding commercials to their subscription service!

http://www.v-net.tv/2018/01/25/fubot...-programmatic/

The future looks interesting, but including commercials within subscription streaming services is unwelcome. Hopefully, this will not catch on.


Possibly they are doing this to try to keep the monthly charge as low as possible. Which rather than being unwelcome is the opposite if they want people to subscribe

OLD BOY 08-03-2018 07:54

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35939903)
Possibly they are doing this to try to keep the monthly charge as low as possible. Which rather than being unwelcome is the opposite if they want people to subscribe

Undoubtedly, but will the strategy work? They may gain customers due to the lower price but they will lose those who don't want to sit through commercials. They would certainly lose my custom if any streaming service I subscribed to decided to add compulsory advertisements.

I remain of the view that there should be a subscription option with no ads and a non-subscription (or low subscription) option with ads. That should draw in most people with interest in the service and produce bigger revenues.

Raider999 08-03-2018 09:41

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35939926)
Undoubtedly, but will the strategy work? They may gain customers due to the lower price but they will lose those who don't want to sit through commercials. They would certainly lose my custom if any streaming service I subscribed to decided to add compulsory advertisements.

I remain of the view that there should be a subscription option with no ads and a non-subscription (or low subscription) option with ads. That should draw in most people with interest in the service and produce bigger revenues.



The option of a two-tier subscription model would offer the choice people may want, however would it attract enough advertisers?

buckeye 08-03-2018 15:32

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It seems Netflix wont be adopting ads or a two tier approach, Reed Hastings pledges the service will never show ads (or bid for sports and news)

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a8245701.html

denphone 08-03-2018 15:44

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No surprise that they don't bid for sports as Amazon have very much realised generally..

OLD BOY 08-03-2018 16:51

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35940002)
It seems Netflix wont be adopting ads or a two tier approach, Reed Hastings pledges the service will never show ads (or bid for sports and news)

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a8245701.html

Long may that policy continue!

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35939944)
The option of a two-tier subscription model would offer the choice people may want, however would it attract enough advertisers?

It depends how many go for it, I guess. There must be a lot of people up and down the country who either cannot afford Netflix or who are hard wired not to pay for TV viewing.


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