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Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751786)

I, personally, quite like being able to offend and to be offended, and indeed to have someone tell me to stop my whining :)

your problem is you see no difference between deliberately insulting (in this case a whole religion) and mocking a few individuals in a humorous or satirical way .Publishing a naked Muhamed or any of the other Muhamed cartoons on the front page of a magazine is designed purely to insult every member of Islam and it will do just that ,it will not distinguish between the radical jihadists and the peaceful Muslims who simply live their lives and harm no one that behaviour is not needed and never justified .

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751778)

It was expanded on but either said poster has a poor grasp of the English language, given their use of a conjunction as the next word indicating a new clause, or they are saying exactly that:

Bloody hell watch out boys the wording rozzers are about :rolleyes:

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

This is the kind of retaliation I'm in favour of, especially as the jihadists will have no idea who to aim their frustrations at :)

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35751793)

This is the kind of retaliation I'm in favour of, especially as the jihadists will have no idea who to aim their frustrations at :)

about time they made themselves usefull

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

This is in danger of descending (or perhaps ascending) into a debate about article 5 of the Public Order Act.

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751794)

about time they made themselves usefull

what are they going to do beat the terrorists to death with their keyboards

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35751797)

what are they going to do beat the terrorists to death with their keyboards

well it could be useful if their means of communicating was disrupted or bank accounts suddenly emptied (if that's even possible)

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

Paris gunman Cherif Kouachi interviewed before death: 'We are not killers'.

Interview.

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751736)

Why are they ?

Because they are, it's not against the law.

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Hold on a moment ,you just said people should be free to antagonise Muslims and now your saying radical Islam ,which is it ? there is a very big difference

both, anyone and everyone. I'm free to antagonise you too. It's great fun.

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

I just find it ironic that the 2 who murdered at an office of a comic publication, were brought to justice (I consider their deaths true justice) at a printers.

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35751728)

Why do you think they didn't?.

No idea, but it's not their responsibility to make a stand. It would be great if they did. But you can't criticise harshly if they didn't.

If it was me? I think I would have. I'd like to think I would have.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35751769)

I can't stand Cox however he's right, any opinion can be ridiculed however it has to be remembered that ridicule can often cause a reaction and no matter how petty or unwarranted that reaction can be, the person doing the ridiculing is going to be responsible for their actions.

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Here's an example. I really can't get my head around those pyjama-type striped trousers bodybuilders often wear in public. I think they look pretty stupid.

If I went up to some 20 stone bloke wearing them and made fun of him for wearing them should I complain if he smacks me out for it? He wouldn't be right in doing that however my making fun of his choice of clothing would be unlikely to get a smile and high-5 from him.

Should he get a sense of humour or be aware that wearing odd stuff like that opens him up to ridicule? Hell yes of course.

Absolutely correct.

But would say then that the BBC should issue guidance not to take the piddle out of body builders? From now on, no more funny photos of body builders on HIGFY?

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751771)

The last few pages of this thread in a nutshell :clap:

Bollocks, do you want me to throw you a ring? As you're in danger of disappearing up your own ********.

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35751807)

Absolutely correct.

But would say then that the BBC should issue guidance not to take the piddle out of body builders? From now on, no more funny photos of body builders on HIGFY?

utterly stupid comparison

The BBC would not be expected to deliberately insult a whole religion in the name of free speech

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751764)

oh i do apologise ,are we getting offended ,well guess what ,given your insistance on our right to free speech .......tough.... deal with it

Presumably your ok with Carl coming round and shooting you in the face now seeing as you deliberately set out to offend him.

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utterly stupid comparison

No it's not.

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The BBC would not be expected to deliberately insult a whole religion in the name of free speech

I wouldn't expect them to. But I would allow them to.

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35751812)

Presumably your ok with Carl coming round and shooting you in the face now seeing as you deliberately set out to offend him.

Nothing deliberate about it just telling the truth ,his attitude and those who subscribe to it are part of the problem imo

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35751814)

No it's not..

yes it is ,ask Gary ,he's brill at making comparisons that make no sense

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I wouldn't expect them to. But I would allow them to

well fortunately it's not up to you and imo they are 100% correct in protecting their staff and their standards

Re: Mass shooting in Paris

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751815)

Nothing deliberate about it just telling the truth ,his attitude and those who subscribe to it are part of the problem imo

I don't think they are, I couldn't care less how offensive, how rude, how derogatory someone is nothing justifies what they did, they are/were the whole problem. How far do we bend over to protect ourselves from these extreme terrorists and what happens when they carry on after that.