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Ramrod 04-07-2015 16:58
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Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni (Post 35786617)
Perhaps you have see this before but I found it funny:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...58&oe=5625CFEE

Of course, it has nothing to do with the channel tunnel people and/or asylum/benefit claimants.
A moments reflection would also suggest that many migrants are willing to work for lower wages and simply undercut home grown workers. My brother in law is a decorator and he is being undercut all the time by immigrants.

Carlos Carboni 04-07-2015 17:49
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35786653)
A moments reflection would also suggest that many migrants are willing to work for lower wages and simply undercut home grown workers. My brother in law is a decorator and he is being undercut all the time by immigrants.
An extreme tragic example, yes, they had contacts.

heero_yuy 21-07-2015 09:28
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MIGRANTS on benefits outnumber hard-working foreigners by two to one, says a report.

It dispels claims all migrants boost Britain, argues Migrant Watch.

The think tank’s research is certain to enrage leftie groups. It claims Britain has more than two million migrants with “strong economic characteristics”.

They are mainly from Western Europe, the US, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand or India.

But nearly five million “weaker” immigrants — mostly from Eastern Europe, the rest of Africa, Pakistan or Bangladesh — are in low-paid jobs or struggling to find work

They are much more likely to claim benefits. The full-time employment rate is 50 per cent for Indian-born men but just over 30 per cent for those from Pakistan or Bangladesh.

Migrant Watch’s Lord Green said last night it shows claims “implying all immigration is beneficial can’t possibly be right”.
Paywall link

Original report

This report from the same organisation is illuminating.

Osem 21-07-2015 11:07
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Those who support uncontrolled migration seem to want to conflate issues and change their argument as it suits. They make bold claims that these people come here to work hard and are doing all the low paid jobs we won't stoop to but at the same time tell us the pay their taxes and are net contributors to UK PLC. :confused: They say that asylum seekers can't claim benefits but don't mention that they are entitled to various relatively generous out of work benefits, child benefit, housing, healthcare etc. etc. which must be a massive enticement to people who're living in poverty elsewhere. They tell us that they're feeling persecution and death whilst they're clearly picking and choosing where they go and where they claim asylum. They claim they're drawn here not because of benefits etc. but because they speak English but then we have numerous examples of 'refugees' claiming they can't read/write/speak a word of English and need interpreters for everything. This system is being abused on a massive scale and anyone who lives in London for example will see just how much immigration there is and how little real integration. Not only is this costing us £££££'s but it is irrevocably changing parts of our country which is I believe what Terence Stamp has been bold enough to say. No doubt he'll be shouted down and labelled a racist for daring to express his opinion.

heero_yuy 21-07-2015 11:13
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The Oscar-nominated actor Terence Stamp has queried the multicultural identity of London and complained that no one speaks English in the capital city.

The 76-year-old star of Superman 2, Billy Budd and The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert told the Daily Mail he now struggled to buy his beloved mangoes from a favourite East End stall because of a language barrier.

Columnist Sebastian Shakespeare said that Stamp had told him, at a Mayfair party, that “it’s very sad how few English people there are in London now”. “When I grew up in East London everyone seemed to speak English, and now you can barely get by speaking our own language.”

“I don’t live in the East any more, but I absolutely love mangoes and so occasionally I go back there to buy these wonderful Alphonso mangoes from the market on Green Street,” added Stamp. “I’m lucky if I can buy one now at all because no one speaks English. It’s changed so much in such a short space of time, that God knows what London will be like in another decade or so.”
Source link

What will the lovvies do when one of their own dares to mention immigration in a negative way? :D

Taf 21-07-2015 14:48
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Migrants from Western Europe, India, South Africa and the "Anglosphere" countries - the US, Australia, New Zealand - have high rates of employment at good wages and low rates of benefit claims

Migrants from Africa, apart from South Africa, have overall employment rates and wages on a par with those born in the UK, but much higher rates of benefit claims

Migrants from Pakistan and Bangladesh have lower rates of employment combined with lower wages and higher rates of benefit claims

Migrants from Eastern European countries, including Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic, have high rates of employment but lower wages and higher rates of benefit claims than those born in the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33603993

Certain Eastern Europeans know how to milk the system by doing menial work at low wages for the minimum amount of hours to totally milk the system as it stands.

Osem 21-07-2015 15:35
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Anyone who really thinks that benefits here (in/out of work) plus free healthcare, free education and free housing isn't a draw to economic migrants (especially those who claim asylum) must be living on a different planet.

Keeping earnings down clearly avoids tax and increases various benefits/tax credits and other entitlements such as free prescriptions, dental care, school meals etc. I really don't see how migrants in this category are a net benefit to UK PLC.

TheDaddy 22-07-2015 01:50
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Someone I know is going back to Africa in November, I asked him if he'd ever come back and he said of course, every couple of years for his health check up. Just had a complete moan at a guy in the garage to, I'm already running late, had no dinner and I get to the garage, he's asleep in the chair which I struggled to wake him up from and he's asking me if a snickers duo is some sort of petrol, boy did he get a telling of, if he didn't understand it he certainly got the gist of it by the end.

Osem 24-07-2015 17:11
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Incursions by "hundreds" of migrants into the Eurotunnel terminal in France have become a nightly occurrence, the cross-Channel rail operator has said.

Passenger and freight services were again hit by delays on Friday as the firm tried to run services on one of the busiest days for holiday travel.

Eurotunnel said police were being called each night to remove migrants from its Coquelles base.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33649334

The stakes are gradually being raised and it won't be too long before innocent people die as a result of this madness. By putting up with this nonsense, we're effectively allowing ourselves to be blackmailed into opening the floodgates and only tough measures will put a stop to this. IMHO all the migrants in Calais ought to be fingerprinted and photographed. If they're subsequently detected in the UK they should be immediately returned to Calais - no asylum claims, no appeals, no argument.

Taf 24-07-2015 19:40
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Let's just hope they don't arm themselves for a future assault on the tunnel or a ferry.

They'd be here long before we could react accordingly.

Osem 24-07-2015 20:12
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Tensions are clearly rising - sooner or later it'll boil over. Letting this simmer away is making matters worse.

Osem 28-07-2015 18:41
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Some 2,000 migrants tried to enter the Channel Tunnel terminal in Calais on Monday night in an attempt to reach the UK, operator Eurotunnel has said.

Eurotunnel is facing a daily struggle with migrants who attempt to smuggle themselves into Britain, sometimes with fatal consequences.

"It was the biggest incursion effort in the past month-and-a-half," said a spokesman for Eurotunnel.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33689473

They're obviously not too worried about how robust our asylum system is.

Taf 28-07-2015 19:22
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I hope the "Flood Tunnel" button has been installed.

Jimmy-J 28-07-2015 19:35
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I wonder where it's all going to end?

Taf 28-07-2015 20:45
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35790841)
I wonder where it's all going to end?
Probably with politicians waving a magic wand that turns all these illegals into legals with the right to enter the UK to live and work as members of the EU.

Actually that's happening already.... some countries are giving them passports and sending them on their way I have heard. :(


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