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passingbat 21-11-2013 13:03
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35647510)
The cost is not forced on anyone passingbat. The XL pack is full of variety but if you don't want it then downgrade.

I never watch lifestyle stuff but don't moan about those who do. Am pleased BT Sport is included and Virgin played a really good hand getting it.

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You're failing to acknowledge the difference. The variety you speak about is fine; we all have channels we don't watch and those that we do, but these are non premium channels. BT sport is a premium channel that VM are forcing all XL users to pay for. Premium channels should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch them; that is why they are called premium channels.

And why should I downgrade to avoid the cost of BT sports and in the process lose HD channels? Let people who want premium sport (or any other premium channel) pay for it as intended; as a premium service.

muppetman11 21-11-2013 13:07
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35647532)
There seems to be a glitch with Spotify, I added the 3 months free which was due to expire on 12/11/2013, still on Premium today and when I phoned up to ask about it he said that the system had applied a Lifetime premium subscription by mistake and they couldn't withdraw it.

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I can see where you are coming from but there are more Sky Subscribers in the UK than there are people who have access to the service. And over here around half a million want access to these shows.

If they were to launch themselves then they would probably have a linear channel as well. But they also love the Sky Atlantic withheld deal because everybody who doesn't have access "most likely" purchases them on DVD and. BluRay with all the money going to them.

However since Atlantic, piracy of HBO shows has increased and this means they may be looking to monotise the people who currently don't have access.
How many people with pay tv would actually subscribe to a channel/On Demand purely containing HBO content I'd say very few going off the fact the overwhelming majority of voters in your poll said they wouldn't pay the current £4.99 for Now TV entertainment which includes all HBO's new content with different boxsets of its older content it also shows many new series from Showtime and a few exclusive Sky commisions , whilst HBO have some great content I certainly wouldn't pay a standalone charge of say £7-10 to watch it.

Media Boy UK 21-11-2013 13:16
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
Virgin Media has added an new channel to 'Total Channels' last night but no new channel has not appeared on my list.

Parlyboy 21-11-2013 13:22
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647551)
Virgin Media has added an new channel to 'Total Channels' last night but no new channel has not appeared on my list.
OMG!! It just HAS to be Sky MGM HD Atlantic Sports +3

Free on all packs and £50 off for those on VIP.

Honest. :angel:

theone2k10 21-11-2013 13:40
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35647514)
Morning everyone, hope you're all well. Not been here for a few weeks. Any news? :)
Snow in the North :p:

No news on the channel front yet bud.

OLD BOY 21-11-2013 13:41
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647542)
You're failing to acknowledge the difference. The variety you speak about is fine; we all have channels we don't watch and those that we do, but these are non premium channels. BT sport is a premium channel that VM are forcing all XL users to pay for. Premium channels should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch them; that is why they are called premium channels.

And why should I downgrade to avoid the cost of BT sports and in the process lose HD channels? Let people who want premium sport (or any other premium channel) pay for it as intended; as a premium service.
Well I guess 'you pays your money and you takes your choice'.

This is how VM have decided to package it, so it is for us to decide what is best for us.

We can all quibble about channels on our packages that we don't ever watch and don't want to pay for, but we have only ever been able to choose between packages.

If Sky, BT, Talk Talk etc offer a more attractive package in the eyes of existing subscribers, then I suppose customers will make up their minds where they want to be and each provider will work out how to best pitch their offerings from the results of those customer choices.

I don't watch BT Sports, but you only need to look at the reaction when it became apparent that this would be part of the XL pack to realise that this was a good move for VM. I am happy with it because I think it makes VM a better proposition, and the more subscribers VM gets, the more money they make that will ultimately benefit us in terms of investment.

My only niggle is that I wanted Netflix to be part of the XL pack. That way, there would have been something for film/drama fans as well as sports fans.

theone2k10 21-11-2013 13:43
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35647532)
There seems to be a glitch with Spotify, I added the 3 months free which was due to expire on 12/11/2013, still on Premium today and when I phoned up to ask about it he said that the system had applied a Lifetime premium subscription by mistake and they couldn't withdraw it.

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I can see where you are coming from but there are more Sky Subscribers in the UK than there are people who have access to the service. And over here around half a million want access to these shows.

If they were to launch themselves then they would probably have a linear channel as well. But they also love the Sky Atlantic withheld deal because everybody who doesn't have access "most likely" purchases them on DVD and. BluRay with all the money going to them.

However since Atlantic, piracy of HBO shows has increased and this means they may be looking to monotise the people who currently don't have access.
We could see then HBO launch their own channel and launch a UK version of HBOGO. with Netflix getting secondary rights maybe.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647551)
Virgin Media has added an new channel to 'Total Channels' last night but no new channel has not appeared on my list.
I wonder if that's DisneyHd?

OLD BOY 21-11-2013 13:45
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35647559)
We could see then HBO launch their own channel and launch a UK version of HBOGO. with Netflix getting secondary rights maybe.[COLOR="Silver"]
I think we should also consider that if there was an HBO channel launched, it could have additional content that was not a product of HBO. People would pay a subscription for it if the quality was good enough.

Chad 21-11-2013 13:45
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647542)
You're failing to acknowledge the difference. The variety you speak about is fine; we all have channels we don't watch and those that we do, but these are non premium channels. BT sport is a premium channel that VM are forcing all XL users to pay for. Premium channels should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch them; that is why they are called premium channels.

And why should I downgrade to avoid the cost of BT sports and in the process lose HD channels? Let people who want premium sport (or any other premium channel) pay for it as intended; as a premium service.
The same argument could be applied by those who have XL for BT Sports but don't watch HD. HD on Virgin should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch HD content.

OLD BOY 21-11-2013 13:48
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35647564)
The same argument could be applied by those who have XL for BT Sports but don't watch HD. HD on Virgin should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch HD content.
No doubt the decision VM have made brings in the most revenue.

passingbat 21-11-2013 13:51
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647557)
Well I guess 'you pays your money and you takes your choice'.

This is how VM have decided to package it, so it is for us to decide what is best for us.

We can all quibble about channels on our packages that we don't ever watch and don't want to pay for, but we have only ever been able to choose between packages.

If Sky, BT, Talk Talk etc offer a more attractive package in the eyes of existing subscribers, then I suppose customers will make up their minds where they want to be and each provider will work out how to best pitch their offerings from the results of those customer choices.

I don't watch BT Sports, but you only need to look at the reaction when it became apparent that this would be part of the XL pack to realise that this was a good move for VM. I am happy with it because I think it makes VM a better proposition, and the more subscribers VM gets, the more money they make that will ultimately benefit us in terms of investment.

My only niggle is that I wanted Netflix to be part of the XL pack. That way, there would have been something for film/drama fans as well as sports fans.

I they had announced a reasonable price rise, then non sports fans would have been happy to accept giving sports fans a freebie. But because of the size, people are looking at what has possibly contributed to the large amount and giving away a premium service FOC has to be part of it.

Perfect Choice 21-11-2013 13:53
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647557)
My only niggle is that I wanted Netflix to be part of the XL pack. That way, there would have been something for film/drama fans as well as sports fans.
Agreed, the advantage of XL has been reduced unless you are a Sports fan and VM should really offer advantages in other ways. Netflix either as part of XL or a discounted price, e.g. £2.99/month if you are on XL, would help. If I am willing to give up on most of HD and a few factual channels, then the L package is starting to look tempting as not bothered about BT Sports.

passingbat 21-11-2013 14:06
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35647564)
The same argument could be applied by those who have XL for BT Sports but don't watch HD. HD on Virgin should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch HD content.

Fair point. Maybe they should reduce the price of XL and have BT sport and HD as two extra cost options?

OLD BOY 21-11-2013 14:10
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35647240)
We have been redirected here but it isn't a coming soon thread. It's all baseless speculation.
There is very little to post that is firm information. Virgin do not generally pre-announce channels, which is why there is so much speculation on here.

We would all love to see an authoritative list of what is definitely coming to Virgin Media, but it just doesn't exist owing to the secrecy of the VM environment.

I really don't know what you expect. Media Boy provides a full list of what is confirmed on a regular basis. As you can see if you look at 2014, it ain't much.

The only reason we know about the BBC channels is because BBC announced them!

andy_m 21-11-2013 14:13
Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647542)
You're failing to acknowledge the difference. The variety you speak about is fine; we all have channels we don't watch and those that we do, but these are non premium channels. BT sport is a premium channel that VM are forcing all XL users to pay for. Premium channels should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch them; that is why they are called premium channels.

And why should I downgrade to avoid the cost of BT sports and in the process lose HD channels? Let people who want premium sport (or any other premium channel) pay for it as intended; as a premium service.
Aren't HD channels premium? What you pay for with Sky you get bundled with Virgin.


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