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Itshim 28-06-2012 15:03
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35447574)
But isn't it the BBC who control Red button services? Surely it is they that are to blame if red button services are reduced or removed from the V+?
It is but again you could argue that as Virgin supply, its there problem how they deliver.
Seems to be a case as always "its not my fault" is the virgin mantra.

Clearly the plan is to get rid of all boxes other than TiVo . Not that I think from a business point view that would not be a bad idea.

Question sorry its not really for this part of the forum but fits in the topic.
Any idea what is happening to it on Freeview :confused:

BenMcr 28-06-2012 15:13
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35447577)
You could well be right. Just wondering why the BBC would want to reduce their viewer base. Maybe they are thinking of scrapping the TV licence fee and selling access to their channels for a commercial price.
It's in the Delivering Qualify First documentation I linked to earlier

Quote:
Audiences will see a more consistent Red Button offering from the BBC – with the same service available on all TV platforms. These changes pave the way for new IPTV services for connected TV sets, delivered through the Red Button.

To achieve consistency across all output the number of video streams available on Satellite and Cable will be reduced from nine to the one stream currently available on Freeview towards the end of 2012, after the Olympics.

Reorganise and potentially rationalise the digital text service we produce and close the news-multi-screen.

Create a new Red Button portal to bridge the gap between traditional TVs and the internet. This service will be an integral part of the BBC’s four-screen strategy which, amongst other benefits, will enable audiences to consume content seamlessly between their mobile, computer, tablet and television.

Lew 28-06-2012 15:27
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35447583)
It is but again you could argue that as Virgin supply, its there problem how they deliver.
You could, but you'd be wrong. What do you expect VM to do? Somehow force the BBC to keep the extra streams?

Itshim 28-06-2012 15:40
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35447590)
You could, but you'd be wrong. What do you expect VM to do? Somehow force the BBC to keep the extra streams?

No strangely I was thinking along these lines. We supply like this to everyone , you sort out your kit to pick it up.

Every one had to get Freeview boxes to get a signal.
Not a case of you only have an CRT Tv no worries we will setup just for you.:dozey:

BenMcr 28-06-2012 15:45
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35447592)
No strangely I was thinking along these lines. We supply like this to everyone , you sort out your kit to pick it up.

Every one had to get Freeview boxes to get a signal.
Not a case of you only have an CRT Tv no worries we will setup just for you.:dozey:
I'm not sure quite what your point is

The BBC offered different interactive services on analogue TV (Ceefax) than it does on Freeview (Red Button).

Same as they are offering different interactive services on Connected TVs, of which TiVo is one, than they will be on the less capable platforms.

Maggy 28-06-2012 16:29
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At present through the red button on BBC I get the text rubbish and iPlayer and access to Catch Up...However what I actually miss is the recorded weather report.

Yes I can get it online BUT I don't always want to flash up my PC just to do that.

BenMcr 28-06-2012 18:06
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35447608)
However what I actually miss is the recorded weather report.
And it's coming

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...ment_112343312

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JC (#18) - we agree and aim to add Weather content at a future date. Likewise with regional news jamesmw16 (#19), though you should find that there is text news available for England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales in the News app. John (#27) - you should find that Entertainment news is available in the News app.

Itshim 29-06-2012 08:06
Re: BBC Red Button
 
SEE post 238
Had another go last night & it was the same again. Who at the BBC do I contact to complain about this fault.
The fact that on Sky it was fine, the I pad it was fine & even the Wii works
Clearly shows that the BBC have not set it up correctly for TiVo
Because that could not be a fault could it .

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35447597)
I'm not sure quite what your point is

The BBC offered different interactive services on analogue TV (Ceefax) than it does on Freeview (Red Button).

Same as they are offering different interactive services on Connected TVs, of which TiVo is one, than they will be on the less capable platforms.
My point is & this should apply to all platforms. This is how we will broadcast it. You set up YOUR kit to accept it . Not the other way round.

spiderplant 29-06-2012 08:24
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35447793)
SEE post 238
Had another go last night & it was the same again. Who at the BBC do I contact to complain about this fault.
The fact that on Sky it was fine, the I pad it was fine & even the Wii works
Clearly shows that the BBC have not set it up correctly for TiVo
Because that could not be a fault could it
The BBC are already aware. See http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...2/td-p/1271781

Itshim 29-06-2012 08:41
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35447801)
Thank for that. Will try it next time. Good to know people are on the case.
Sad its yet again a TiVo (Ill use the word) hiccup. The boss wants the boxes swapped around again, Does it work still on the V+? not a dig just could not bother last night to try it. If plan" A " fails then I guess it will be swapping time :monkey:

BenMcr 29-06-2012 08:52
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35447793)
My point is & this should apply to all platforms. This is how we will broadcast it. You set up YOUR kit to accept it . Not the other way round.
That's exactly what they are doing.

The BBC apps are what the BBC will be taking forward, it's the V box service that's the legacy one.

So if you don't have a Connected device of some description going foward, you won't get the full BBC experience. TiVo will allow you to get the full BBC content available in the future with your existing TV.

The BBC's plan is to offer the same content across as may devices as possible - all via IPTV

spiderplant 29-06-2012 10:51
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35447813)
The boss wants the boxes swapped around again, Does it work still on the V+? not a dig just could not bother last night to try it. If plan" A " fails then I guess it will be swapping time :monkey:
It is on V+, but you only get a choice of three sets of rain-covers to view, rather than the five on TiVo.

Itshim 29-06-2012 14:10
Re: BBC Red Button
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35447819)
That's exactly what they are doing.

The BBC apps are what the BBC will be taking forward, it's the V box service that's the legacy one.

you won't get the full BBC experience. TiVo will allow you to get the full BBC content available in the future with your existing TV.

The BBC's plan is to offer the same content across as may devices as possible - all via IPTV
I understand what you are saying. Others seem to "blame" the BBC for it not working on TiVo & that its up to them The BBC to fix that.
I follow it will be the same on all platforms & that Tivo will support it. Pity the BBC have chosen to supply a poorer service ( picture / speed were I am at any rate)
Crazy but the picture seems better when streamed via a Wii onto a CRTV :shocked:

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35447882)
It is on V+, but you only get a choice of three sets of rain-covers to view, rather than the five on TiVo.
She wanted to watch Rafa when BBC showed the engilsh girl losing :p:
He came back on later so it was then "forgotten" :dozey:

denphone 16-08-2012 13:45
Re: BBC Red Button
 
Well here we are two days before the start of the football season and the BBC sports app has absolutely nothing on there.:(:td:

trickytree 17-08-2012 13:38
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Also there is a comedy marathon for BBC3 tonight on the 'normal' red button :(


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