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BenMcr

07-03-2011 16:30

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35188786)

You have to subscribe to the XL pack for Tivo don't you, not any old pack as you suggest?

Initially yes, however if Virgin plan to move all customers over to TiVo, as has been said, then it will be rolled out to lower tiers.

muppetman11

07-03-2011 16:36

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35188248)

VM VOD with the likes of Lovefilms/Amazon and Google is the way I see VM breaking the strangle hold on Sky Movie Premier and gain access to Sky Atlantic programmes?

One other factor not mentioned. To get VM Vod/apps via Tivo you have to subscribe to a TV pack only as already includes the 10Mb BB so you don't habe to be a VM BB customer. For Sky do you have to be a subscriber to TV + a Broadband package to get Sky Anytime?

So VM will have a big price advantage moving forward unless Sky bundle in free BB?

They already do bundle free BB if you take phoneline all be it with a rather poor 2gb usage limit.

BenMcr

07-03-2011 16:37

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35188795)

They already do bundle free BB if you take phoneline all be it with a rather poor 2gb usage limit.

Of which Anytime+ is not excluded because 'it would confuse customers'

muppetman11

07-03-2011 16:41

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35188796)

Of which Anytime+ is not excluded because 'it would confuse customers'

Agreed , like I said 2gb is poor in today's world.

mersey70

07-03-2011 16:42

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35188791)

Initially yes, however if Virgin plan to move all customers over to TiVo, as has been said, then it will be rolled out to lower tiers.

I have read that too but I think it would be safe to say that is probably some way away.

For a non XL customer there are currently some pretty big numbers involved to get Tivo, hardware costs aside.

muppetman11

07-03-2011 16:46

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

The sky unlimited BB is a better deal than VM 10mb for those customers whose line will run ADSL 2 at quicker than 10mb as it's 7.50 compared to VM 13.50 however people with lower speeds are better with VM if speed is what they want. The Sky free BB wouldn't let you watch to many Sky Atlantic shows on sky player.

BenMcr

07-03-2011 16:49

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35188800)

For a non XL customer there are currently some pretty big numbers involved to get Tivo, hardware costs aside.

Suppose it depends what you are comparing it against - it's still cheaper monthly for TV costs than getting the comparable Sky+HD box with Anytime+

mersey70

07-03-2011 16:55

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35188810)

Suppose it depends what you are comparing it against - it's still cheaper monthly for TV costs than getting the comparable Sky+HD box with Anytime+

No that's not where I was coming from, Sky's products didn't enter my mind.

What I mean is there is a quite a big upgrade path for an existing non XL customer to get Tivo.

I might be wrong but a M+ customer would be shelling out around Â£400 extra in the first year with the higher XL sub, Tivo sub and kit cost. It's a big ask.

Then again maybe M+ customers are not natural Tivo customers anyway, dunno really.

BenMcr

07-03-2011 17:01

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35188813)

Then again maybe M+ customers are not natural Tivo customers anyway, dunno really.

Considering TiVo is currently designed to be a premium service? No they aren't. As TiVo becomes mainstream, then options will become available to the lower tiers

Though to be honest, TiVo will be a difference experience on lower services. It's designed to offer content you might not have seen but would want to watch. It can't do that as well with less channels to suggest content from

mersey70

07-03-2011 17:04

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35188817)

Considering TiVo is currently designed to be a premium service? No they aren't. As TiVo becomes mainstream, then options will become available to the lower tiers

Thought to be honest, TiVo is less useful on lower services anyway. It's designed to offer content you might not have seen but would want to watch. It can't do that as well with less channels to suggest content from

That's what I have always thought too, it's only a certain group of customers who will want it.

It won't be mainstream for quite some time yet similar to the other markets it operates in.

muppetman11

07-03-2011 17:19

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by [U

[/U]mersey70;35188821]That's what I have always thought too, it's only a certain group of customers who will want it.

It won't be mainstream for quite some time yet similar to the other markets it operates in.

I read somewhere on the net that people were saying its to geeky and only appeals to TV addicted tech freaks.

mersey70

07-03-2011 17:26

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35188835)

I read somewhere on the net that people were saying its to geeky and only appeals to TV addicted tech freaks.

I think someone from Sky said something along those lines, but of course they would. I bet they never said it when they had it though!

I would diplomatically say to me it certainly seems a product that would appeal to the let's say more technically savvy. Maybe some of those people who read publications like What Video and of that ilk.

Chris

07-03-2011 18:42

Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

I guess everyone's finished discussing Sky Atlantic then - thread closed.

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