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Taf 01-03-2022 11:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36115084)
Nottingham has those stupid limits all over the place, but no one sticks to them.
The Welsh Arsembly has decided not to put up signs, but have adopted the rule "if there are street lights, the limit is 20mph unless otherwise marked".

More 50mph motorway and dual carriageway limits also coming.

Chris 01-03-2022 12:54
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36115143)
The Welsh Arsembly has decided not to put up signs, but have adopted the rule "if there are street lights, the limit is 20mph unless otherwise marked".

More 50mph motorway and dual carriageway limits also coming.
I’m surprised they have the authority to do that. I thought the default speed limits were set down in the Road Traffic Act (and amendments) at Westminster.

Carth 01-03-2022 13:19
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36115143)
The Welsh Arsembly has decided not to put up signs, but have adopted the rule "if there are street lights, the limit is 20mph unless otherwise marked".

More 50mph motorway and dual carriageway limits also coming.
Are they also advertising for people who can walk quite fast while carrying a red flag or lantern? ;)

papa smurf 01-03-2022 13:29
Re: Coronavirus
 
My street is a 120mph zone-it was 30 until the council interfered and put 20 mph signs up that no one obeys.

spiderplant 01-03-2022 15:35
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36115149)
I’m surprised they have the authority to do that. I thought the default speed limits were set down in the Road Traffic Act (and amendments) at Westminster.
Apparently they can:
https://gov.wales/sites/default/file...oup-report.pdf

Paul 01-03-2022 18:55
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36115156)
My street is a 120mph zone.
:Yikes:

OLD BOY 01-03-2022 20:08
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36115143)
The Welsh Arsembly has decided not to put up signs, but have adopted the rule "if there are street lights, the limit is 20mph unless otherwise marked".

More 50mph motorway and dual carriageway limits also coming.
Typical Labour, trying to slow everything down to a crawl.

They must be really upset that they couldn’t justify forever Covid restrictions. ‘Control’ is the buzzword for that lot.

papa smurf 01-03-2022 20:09
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36115168)
:Yikes:
It's true as soon as the 20mph signs went up it became a race track

GrimUpNorth 01-03-2022 22:08
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36115176)
Typical Labour, trying to slow everything down to a crawl.

They must be really upset that they couldn’t justify forever Covid restrictions. ‘Control’ is the buzzword for that lot.
Good point, while I suppose your lot are happy to let inflation spiral out of control so before long nobody will be speeding because nobody will be able to afford to put fuel in their cars.

Intact, I'd not be surprised if pretty soon after that only wealthy conservative voters will be able to afford to buy food so the opposition supporters will all die. Problem solved you may say, except it won't be because one of your lot will then have to step up and wipe Charlie's arse for him ;).

Pierre 01-03-2022 22:40
Re: Coronavirus
 
It’s telling that the COVID thread is now more concerned with traffic than COVID !

1andrew1 02-03-2022 09:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36115176)
Typical Labour, trying to slow everything down to a crawl.

They must be really upset that they couldn’t justify forever Covid restrictions. ‘Control’ is the buzzword for that lot.
Been 20mph for many years in Conservative boroughs in both inner and outer London. Not something that worries the buses too much!

OLD BOY 02-03-2022 19:49
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36115211)
It’s telling that the COVID thread is now more concerned with traffic than COVID !
That’s because it’s no more dangerous than flu now. We don’t talk about that ad infinitum.

What I am concerned about now is ensuring that this coming autumn’s boosters address the Delta and Omicron variants. That should keep Covid at controllable levels without the need for further restrictions.

Hugh 03-03-2022 00:48
Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/01/h...sfunction.html

Quote:
The coronavirus may infect tissue within the male genital tract, new research on rhesus macaques shows. The finding suggests that symptoms like erectile dysfunction reported by some Covid patients may be caused directly by the virus, not by inflammation or fever that often accompany the disease.

The research demonstrated that the coronavirus infected the prostate, penis, testicles and surrounding blood vessels in three male rhesus macaques. The monkeys were examined with whole body scans specially designed to detect sites of infection.

Scientists — who expected to find the coronavirus in spots like the lungs but did not know where else they would find it — were somewhat surprised by the discovery...

… The work was carried out at the Tulane National Primate Research Center in Louisiana. The researchers do not know whether the monkeys had symptoms corresponding to the viral infection of the male genital tract, such as low testosterone levels, low sperm counts, pain or sexual dysfunction, Dr. Hope said.

Men infected with the virus are three to six times as likely as others to develop erectile dysfunction, believed to be an indicator of so-called long Covid.

Patients have also reported symptoms such as testicular pain, reduced sperm counts and reduced sperm quality, decreased fertility and hypogonadism, a condition in which the testes produce insufficient amounts of testosterone, leading to low sex drive, sexual dysfunction and reduced fertility.
https://twitter.com/unrollhelper/sta...414495239?s=21

Take a couple of aspirin, you’ll be fine… ;)

Carth 03-03-2022 01:11
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36115350)




Take a couple of aspirin, you’ll be fine… ;)
Erectile Dysfunction

Bloody hell, all these years I thought it was because I'm an old(ish) man* . . . and now I find it's Covid :D



*. . or a monkey :shocked:

papa smurf 03-03-2022 08:38
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36115351)
Erectile Dysfunction

Bloody hell, all these years I thought it was because I'm an old(ish) man* . . . and now I find it's Covid :D



*. . or a monkey :shocked:
Should rename it covid 87.

Taf 09-03-2022 16:40
Re: Coronavirus
 
Omicron killed 280 people in Hong Kong on Monday, and there's been 450,000 cases since February 15. Before Omicron, the city had only 50,000 since the start of the pandemic.

All recent cases have been of a slightly mutated strain of the BA2 form of the disease which tweaks the amino acid profile in one of the Covid virus cell spike proteins.

The mutation, dubbed BA2.2, is almost unique to Hong Kong at this stage, but has also been seen in small numbers in the UK, Singapore and Australia.

Chris 09-03-2022 17:25
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36116137)
Omicron killed 280 people in Hong Kong on Monday, and there's been 450,000 cases since February 15. Before Omicron, the city had only 50,000 since the start of the pandemic.

All recent cases have been of a slightly mutated strain of the BA2 form of the disease which tweaks the amino acid profile in one of the Covid virus cell spike proteins.

The mutation, dubbed BA2.2, is almost unique to Hong Kong at this stage, but has also been seen in small numbers in the UK, Singapore and Australia.
I believe it was established a while ago that earlier covid variants cause the human body to develop a very decent t-cell immune response that is later effective against omicron. Populations that managed to avoid previous covid waves are likely to be at higher risk now.

Mr K 09-03-2022 19:47
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36116137)
Omicron killed 280 people in Hong Kong on Monday, and there's been 450,000 cases since February 15. Before Omicron, the city had only 50,000 since the start of the pandemic.

All recent cases have been of a slightly mutated strain of the BA2 form of the disease which tweaks the amino acid profile in one of the Covid virus cell spike proteins.

The mutation, dubbed BA2.2, is almost unique to Hong Kong at this stage, but has also been seen in small numbers in the UK, Singapore and Australia.
We're not that much different. 123 deaths reported today and on the increase again.

Mad Max 09-03-2022 20:40
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116162)
We're not that much different. 123 deaths reported today and on the increase again.
Did they die due to Covid or with Covid?

Taf 09-03-2022 20:41
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116162)
We're not that much different. 123 deaths reported today and on the increase again.
And a lot of the ones on respirators are unvaccinated. Around 70% in the West Midlands.

https://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/news...ecessary-risks

Mad Max 09-03-2022 20:43
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36116174)
And a lot of the ones on respirators are unvaccinated. Around 70% in the West Midlands.

https://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/news...ecessary-risks

Kinda tells you something.

Taf 09-03-2022 20:52
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116162)
We're not that much different. 123 deaths reported today and on the increase again.
UK population: 66 million. 123 dead in one day.

Hong Kong population: 7.5 Million. 280 dead in one day.

The percentages are key.

Sephiroth 09-03-2022 20:55
Re: Coronavirus
 
In case you're interested, my wife and I caught Covid on 23-Feb (the test date); a cold was building up at that point. We both tested negative on 07-March - prolly clear a day or so earlier.

There was no loss of smell or taste; no dry cough; no sore throat; no aches. Just a prolonged cold.

As if we didn't know, the vaccine works.

ianch99 11-03-2022 10:57
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Definite trend up in cases now :(

Attachment 29726

1andrew1 11-03-2022 11:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
Covid inquiry’s public hearings will not begin until 2023, making final report before election unlikely.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/co...s-2023-1511009

OLD BOY 11-03-2022 19:40
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116354)
Definite trend up in cases now :(

Attachment 29726
Why does this matter? Everyone (except the naysayers) have been vaccinated and most get minor symptoms.

Those vaccinated who do fare worse than most will be given anti-virals, which will clear it up within three days.

Average death rates compared with previous years are lower.

So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.

Mr K 11-03-2022 19:47
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116392)
Why does this matter? Everyone (except the naysayers) have been vaccinated and most get minor symptoms.

Those vaccinated who do fare worse than most will be given anti-virals, which will clear it up within three days.

Average death rates compared with previous years are lower.

So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
It matters that people don't unnecessarily die.

There seems to be evidence that the vaccinations don't last. The rush is on to give the over 75s another jab, which we're a bit slow at getting done.

It's not as simple as it all being over now.

Hugh 11-03-2022 20:14
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116392)
Why does this matter? Everyone (except the naysayers) have been vaccinated and most get minor symptoms.

Those vaccinated who do fare worse than most will be given anti-virals, which will clear it up within three days.

Average death rates compared with previous years are lower.

So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
Thats an "interesting" viewpoint - information allows informed opinion, lack of information leads to uninformed action.

btw, who’s "we"?

Pierre 11-03-2022 21:44
Re: Coronavirus
 
Guess who cares? ………………………….no one.

Mr K 11-03-2022 21:55
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36116404)
Guess who cares? ………………………….no one.
I think the families of the 114 whose deaths were reported today might care a little.

papa smurf 11-03-2022 21:59
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116393)
It matters that people don't unnecessarily die.

There seems to be evidence that the vaccinations don't last. The rush is on to give the over 75s another jab, which we're a bit slow at getting done.

It's not as simple as it all being over now.
That triple jabbed superiority didn't last long :)

Hugh 11-03-2022 22:06
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36116407)
That triple jabbed superiority didn't last long :)
Funnily enough, no one on here displayed what you’re implying; it’s almost as if you’re making stuff up…

Chris 11-03-2022 22:11
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36116408)
Funnily enough, no one on here displayed what you’re implying; it’s almost as if you’re making stuff up…
Glib one-liners, mostly

Pierre 11-03-2022 22:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116406)
I think the families of the 114 whose deaths were reported today might care a little.
I’m sure they’re thrilled your championing them on here.

OLD BOY 11-03-2022 22:22
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116393)
It matters that people don't unnecessarily die.

There seems to be evidence that the vaccinations don't last. The rush is on to give the over 75s another jab, which we're a bit slow at getting done.

It's not as simple as it all being over now.
Same for flu. Why is there no hysteria about those deaths?

As I said, and you are careful to ignore, the average number of deaths currently is less this year.

So your point is…?

Paul 11-03-2022 23:05
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116406)
I think the families of the 114 whose deaths were reported today might care a little.
Much like the families of everyone else who has died this year, from Flu, Cancer, RTAs or whatever reason.

There is no real need to give special treatment to coronavirus deaths over any others now.

Mad Max 12-03-2022 15:45
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116415)
Much like the families of everyone else who has died this year, from Flu, Cancer, RTAs or whatever reason.

There is no real need to give special treatment to coronavirus deaths over any others now.
Absolutely spot on.

ianch99 13-03-2022 09:23
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116392)
Why does this matter? Everyone (except the naysayers) have been vaccinated and most get minor symptoms.

Those vaccinated who do fare worse than most will be given anti-virals, which will clear it up within three days.

Average death rates compared with previous years are lower.

So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
It requires pretty basic level of understanding to realise that more cases equal more deaths. So how many dead people per day is a concern for you? 100, 200, 500, 1000? Of course, these dead people are not people you know.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116392)
So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
I need to know ..

Hugh 13-03-2022 10:25
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116413)
Same for flu. Why is there no hysteria about those deaths?

As I said, and you are careful to ignore, the average number of deaths currently is less this year.

So your point is…?
Important point - it’s less than the five year average. It still higher than the same time before COVID two years ago.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 25 February 2022 (Week 8) was 11,150 - the figure for the 22nd February 2020 was 10,841

Also, the last two of the five years had higher than average death rates (due to COVID), this increases the current five year average -

Example
2015 - 100
2016 - 100
2017 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
5 year average - 100

2019 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
5 year average - 109

2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
2022 - 110
5 year average - 111

So, our current five year average is still higher than before COVID.

OLD BOY 13-03-2022 11:28
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36116482)
Important point - it’s less than the five year average. It still higher than the same time before COVID two years ago.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 25 February 2022 (Week 8) was 11,150 - the figure for the 22nd February 2020 was 10,841

Also, the last two of the five years had higher than average death rates (due to COVID), this increases the current five year average -

Example
2015 - 100
2016 - 100
2017 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
5 year average - 100

2019 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
5 year average - 109

2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
2022 - 110
5 year average - 111

So, our current five year average is still higher than before COVID.
Yes, but you are counting the numbers for the whole year, and that will be higher. The BBC report I heard on the news was that the death levels were now below average for the month.

---------- Post added at 11:28 ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116477)
It requires pretty basic level of understanding to realise that more cases equal more deaths. So how many dead people per day is a concern for you? 100, 200, 500, 1000? Of course, these dead people are not people you know.


I need to know ..
The number of cases now equates to far fewer deaths now, thanks to the vaccination programme and the anti-virals that are now used to treat Covid.

You may want to know about the number of cases, but you don't need to know, just as you don't need a running commentary on other diseases that lead to deaths.

Covid is no longer the biggest killer, so it's time to end the paranoia.

Jaymoss 13-03-2022 11:57
Re: Coronavirus
 
Still the 3rd biggest killer

Hugh 13-03-2022 12:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116486)
Yes, but you are counting the numbers for the whole year, and that will be higher. The BBC report I heard on the news was that the death levels were now below average for the month.

---------- Post added at 11:28 ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 ----------



The number of cases now equates to far fewer deaths now, thanks to the vaccination programme and the anti-virals that are now used to treat Covid.

You may want to know about the number of cases, but you don't need to know, just as you don't need a running commentary on other diseases that lead to deaths.

Covid is no longer the biggest killer, so it's time to end the paranoia.
Quote:
The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 25 February 2022 (Week 8) was 11,150 - the figure for the 22nd February 2020 was 10,841
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...25february2022

Those are the weekly figures, not the whole year..

spiderplant 13-03-2022 12:56
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116486)
Yes, but you are counting the numbers for the whole year, and that will be higher. The BBC report I heard on the news was that the death levels were now below average for the month.
Many people who would have died this winter were killed by COVID in 2020 or 2021. In other words, it shortened their life by a year or two. You can only die once.

Pierre 13-03-2022 13:22
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116477)
Of course, these dead people are not people you know.
There’s loads of dead people I don’t know, in fact I don’t know hardly any of the people that die every day from any reason.

---------- Post added at 13:20 ---------- Previous post was at 13:18 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36116482)
Important point - it’s less than the five year average. It still higher than the same time before COVID two years ago.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 25 February 2022 (Week 8) was 11,150 - the figure for the 22nd February 2020 was 10,841

Also, the last two of the five years had higher than average death rates (due to COVID), this increases the current five year average -

Example
2015 - 100
2016 - 100
2017 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
5 year average - 100

2019 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
5 year average - 109

2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
2022 - 110
5 year average - 111

So, our current five year average is still higher than before COVID.
Averages and percentages ……….have been used since their invention to prove or debunk any argument whichever way the person using them want the narrative to go.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116489)
Still the 3rd biggest killer
After what?

Jaymoss 13-03-2022 14:14
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36116499)

After what?
If you search you will find the same results as me. I am not doing it for you

Pierre 13-03-2022 17:04
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116504)
If you search you will find the same results as me. I am not doing it for you
What a juvenile response, I couldn’t give a toss, you made the statement. I thought it was a discussion forum

Paul 13-03-2022 17:30
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116504)
If you search you will find the same results as me. I am not doing it for you
Why waste time posting it then :rolleyes:

You also proved the point btw, if its only the 3rd, where is the daily running commentry on the 1st and 2nd ?

---------- Post added at 17:30 ---------- Previous post was at 17:29 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116477)
It requires pretty basic level of understanding to realise that more cases equal more deaths.
It requirs a better level of understanding to realise that one does not necessarily lead to the other.

Jaymoss 13-03-2022 18:09
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116515)
Why waste time posting it then :rolleyes:

You also proved the point btw, if its only the 3rd, where is the daily running commentry on the 1st and 2nd ?

---------- Post added at 17:30 ---------- Previous post was at 17:29 ----------


It requirs a better level of understanding to realise that one does not necessarily lead to the other.
A. Because it was factual
B. I would have looked for anyone else

As for proving a point
1 and 2 were killing as many before (well I assume it was but they only mentioned 1 which was Alzheimer's just for you). Up jumps number 3 brand new, kills loads and still kills loads. I am not gonna get sucked into arguements on this topic I saw his post I searched and found it was 3rd and posted. That is all. No need for the Spanish Inquisition or I will have to go get the comfy chair again

---------- Post added at 18:09 ---------- Previous post was at 18:08 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36116509)
What a juvenile response, I couldn’t give a toss, you made the statement. I thought it was a discussion forum
I just do not like you that is all

Pierre 13-03-2022 18:22
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116521)
I just do not like you that is all
Ha, who gives a shit.

Chris 13-03-2022 20:59
Re: Coronavirus
 
oi … play nicely please.

Paul 13-03-2022 21:20
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116521)
Up jumps number 3 brand new, kills loads and still kills loads.
Except its not brand new anymore - as to 'Loads' ... well not really.

If you want to see how covid deaths stack up against overall deaths, see ;

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...25february2022
Quote:
Of the deaths registered in Week 8 in England and Wales, 766 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)", accounting for 6.9% of all deaths

Mick 13-03-2022 21:33
Re: Coronavirus
 
Former U.S President Barack Obama has announced he has tested positive for Covid-19

ianch99 13-03-2022 21:39
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116515)
It requirs a better level of understanding to realise that one does not necessarily lead to the other.
Which you seem not to have.

If case rates rise, hospital admissions & deaths will rise. This is especially true as the 3rd jab efficacy wanes. There is no medical consensus that I have seen that defines how long the booster lasts. I'd like to know how these metrics are progressing. You may wish to stick your head in the sand but there are many who want to be aware of what is happening in the country. We need to remain vigilant.

Paul 13-03-2022 21:47
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116546)
Which you seem not to have.
If you want to be a dick I can happily remove you from the topic.

Rising cases do not automatically mean rising hospital admissions, or deaths, as was noted in the figures many times over the last few months.

You are free to obsess over one virus if you want, I will be carrying on with my life, and worry about more important things that actually matter to me.

Pierre 13-03-2022 22:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116547)
Rising cases do not automatically mean rising hospital admissions
I think you’ll find the recent omicron wave completely ………………..whatever, supports that view.

Sephiroth 13-03-2022 23:18
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36116555)
I think you’ll find the recent omicron wave completely ………………..whatever, supports that view.
... and I was a case in point.

ianch99 14-03-2022 08:54
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116547)
If you want to be a dick I can happily remove you from the topic.

Rising cases do not automatically mean rising hospital admissions, or deaths, as was noted in the figures many times over the last few months.

You are free to obsess over one virus if you want, I will be carrying on with my life, and worry about more important things that actually matter to me.
I am not being a "dick" as you so eloquently put it. I am pointing out the mistake in your evident denial of where this virus could take us.

A case in point:

Daily Covid cases surge 60% in a week to 61,900 in biggest rise since Freedom Day as admissions climb by a quarter and deaths creep up 9%

Quote:
Britain's Covid wave continued to rebound today, official data showed as cases surged by their largest jump since Freedom Day.

Government dashboard data revealed there were 61,900 new positive tests over the last 24 hours, up 58.7 per cent on last week's figure of 39,000.

There were also a further 212 people deaths registered today, up 9.3 per cent on the 194 recorded last Tuesday.


Meanwhile, hospitalisations continued to increase to 1,253 on March 4, the latest date UK-wide data is available for. That marks a 23.4 per cent rise on the 1,1015 the week before.

Infections first began picking up last Wednesday in a possible sign of the effect of lifting all measures in England on February 24. Hospital admissions - a lagging indicator - have started to creep up in the past week.

The rise in cases also coincides with the emergence of new, more infectious version of Omicron that has become dominant — although experts insist it is just as mild as its parent strain.

Figures also show that hospitals in the South West of England are recording more daily Covid admissions now than during the peak of the Omicron wave.

The region saw 150 admissions a day on average during the week to March 5, up 30 per cent in the first full week after 'Freedom Day'. For comparison, average daily virus admissions reached a previous high of 142 on December 31 at the peak of the Omicron wave.

Experts today claimed there was no reason to panic yet but admitted it may be an early sign of booster vaccine immunity starting to wane.
We need to remain vigilent.

Sephiroth 14-03-2022 09:22
Re: Coronavirus
 

Quote:
Experts today claimed there was no reason to panic yet but admitted it may be an early sign of booster vaccine immunity starting to wane.
These "experts" have been prophets of doom throughout the pandemic, which lost their credibility in recent months.

Of course positive tests are rising since isolation stopped; I was one of them (although this was contracted second hand from Royal Berkshire Hospital). I didn't 100% isolate so may well have contributed to the numbers.

My point, however, is that my booster was 5 months ago and I'm classed as vulnerable. No more than a prolonged cold, no aches etc, and the booster clearly did its job.

heero_yuy 14-03-2022 09:28
Re: Coronavirus
 
Ex - Has been
Spurt - Small drip under pressure.

Pierre 14-03-2022 09:44
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116566)
I am not being a "dick" as you so eloquently put it. I am pointing out the mistake in your evident denial of where this virus could take us.

A case in point:

Daily Covid cases surge 60% in a week to 61,900 in biggest rise since Freedom Day as admissions climb by a quarter and deaths creep up 9%



We need to remain vigilent.
% are the dog turd of statistics look at the numbers:

Quote:
hospitalisations continued to increase to 1,253 on March 4, the latest date UK-wide data is available for. That marks a 23.4 per cent rise on the 1,1015 the week before.
152

Quote:
The region saw 150 admissions a day on average during the week to March 5, up 30 per cent in the first full week after 'Freedom Day'. For comparison, average daily virus admissions reached a previous high of 142 on December 31 at the peak of the Omicron wave.
45

tweetiepooh 14-03-2022 09:51
Re: Coronavirus
 
With small number, small changes give big percentages.


Last week : 1 death, This week : 2 deaths -> 100% increase
Last week : 100 deaths, This week : 150 deaths -> 50% increase but actual more real deaths


Increases now restrictions have been removed/eased in not exactly unexpected. New variants not unexpected and note the new variants (AFAWK) are coming from "outside" so what we really need to do is aid other countries to get their figures down and maintain border security.

Paul 14-03-2022 18:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
All UK travel rules to end on Friday.

Quote:
Currently, everyone travelling to the UK must complete a passenger locator form before they arrive.

Travellers who are not fully vaccinated have to take a Covid test before departure, fill in the form, and book and pay for a PCR test after arriving.

Grant Shapps confirmed in a tweet that these rules will end at 04:00 on Friday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60741158

OLD BOY 14-03-2022 18:58
Re: Coronavirus
 
Hooray for that.

1andrew1 16-03-2022 13:06
Re: Coronavirus
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1647435982

This one made me laugh. :D

Chris 16-03-2022 13:52
Re: Coronavirus
 
Snigger :D

Hugh 16-03-2022 14:28
Re: Coronavirus
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1647440730

https://twitter.com/imperialcollege/...369843713?s=21

Quote:
The Telegraph has corrected and apologised for another untrue claim about Imperial #COVID19 epidemiology. It's the 16th time they have had to correct or clarify false or misleading reporting on Imperial coronavirus research.

The newspaper falsely claimed that following a ‘brief spike in cases during summer 2021’ Prof Neil Ferguson predicted that ‘Britain would soon hit one million infections a day'. He and his Imperial team made no such prediction.

The Telegraph had come up with this claim by picking one of 72 analyses from a study - in this case clearly labelled as 'pessimistic' hypothetical and specific scenarios - and misleadingly presented it as a prediction of what 'would' happen. It was nothing of the sort.

Mr K 16-03-2022 21:05
Re: Coronavirus
 
Lying is OK Hugh, our Prime Minister continues to demonstrate that.

pip08456 16-03-2022 21:23
Re: Coronavirus
 
I would like to know how many of the 72 analysis's of the study even came close to being correct. Surely if there was even 1 they would be crowing about it.

spiderplant 17-03-2022 09:00
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36116747)
I would like to know how many of the 72 analysis's of the study even came close to being correct. Surely if there was even 1 they would be crowing about it.
I don't think Imperial do 'crowing'. Though any published Covid predictions are doomed to failure because people modify their behaviour based on them. In that sense, the Telegraph's sloppy reporting may have done us a favour.

joglynne 29-03-2022 11:02
Re: Coronavirus
 
Just as a point of interest following posts made on this thread last year about Covid restrictions being flaunted in Westminster and Downing Street. It appears that some fines may soon be issued.
Quote:
The first fines for breaches of Covid-19 lockdown rules as part of a police inquiry into government parties will be issued soon, the BBC has been told.

The Metropolitan Police will issue at least 15 fixed-penalty fines initially and could start on Tuesday, Westminster sources suggest.

The investigation of 12 events held across government began in January.

It came after an internal inquiry passed information to the force.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60906757

papa smurf 29-03-2022 11:57
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 36117686)
Just as a point of interest following posts made on this thread last year about Covid restrictions being flaunted in Westminster and Downing Street. It appears that some fines may soon be issued.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60906757
That should put the matter to bed.

OLD BOY 29-03-2022 12:02
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36117687)
That should put the matter to bed.
Yes, but the anti-Boris brigade won't be happy with the result, and Starmer will have some explaining to do.

papa smurf 29-03-2022 12:15
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117688)
Yes, but the anti-Boris brigade won't be happy with the result, and Starmer will have some explaining to do.
If they pay the fine then the matter is over, many have done this and got on with their lives and work.

1andrew1 29-03-2022 13:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36117687)
That should put the matter to bed.
These are the low-hanging fruit.

Damien 29-03-2022 13:26
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117688)
Yes, but the anti-Boris brigade won't be happy with the result, and Starmer will have some explaining to do.
People in Government broke their own laws, can't see how that leaves Starmer with explaining to do.

1andrew1 29-03-2022 14:14
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36117697)
People in Government broke their own laws, can't see how that leaves Starmer with explaining to do.
Maybe Old Boy is transposing the 2022 and 2025 Prime Ministers? :D

OLD BOY 30-03-2022 07:50
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36117697)
People in Government broke their own laws, can't see how that leaves Starmer with explaining to do.
I am talking about the waste of so many questions on Question Time in the house that he wasted on this nonsense, accusing the PM of being personally responsible.

1andrew1 30-03-2022 08:06
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117749)
I am talking about the waste of so many questions on Question Time in the house that he wasted on this nonsense, accusing the PM of being personally responsible.
The report's not out yet so how can you deem PMQs a waste of time. :confused:

Hugh 30-03-2022 08:27
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117749)
I am talking about the waste of so many questions on Question Time in the house that he wasted on this nonsense, accusing the PM of being personally responsible.
I know!

Can you imagine the sheer cheek of people who think that the person in charge of creating and implementing the laws we all had to follow has to be responsible for personally following those laws, and be responsible for ensuring that those who worked directly for and with him had to follow those laws?

inconceivable!

Ignore those who remind you of his words after the North Shropshire by-election last year
Quote:
Speaking to broadcasters following the result, the prime minister said: "I am responsible for everything the government does and of course I take personal responsibility..
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...efeat-12497869

spiderplant 30-03-2022 08:54
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117688)
Starmer will have some explaining to do.
Never mind Starmer - you were the one who repeatedly told us no laws had been broken. Now we know they were broken by at least 20 people.

Will you now do the honourable thing and resign?

papa smurf 30-03-2022 09:58
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36117753)
Never mind Starmer - you were the one who repeatedly told us no laws had been broken. Now we know they were broken by at least 20 people.

Will you now do the honourable thing and resign?
No we don't it could have been 1 person breaking the law 20 times.

I heard on the news this morning that a cheese board was involved at some point, i mean wow.

Hugh 30-03-2022 10:12
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36117758)
No we don't it could have been 1 person breaking the law 20 times.

I heard on the news this morning that a cheese board was involved at some point, i mean wow.
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2022/03/2.gif

Since the Met only investigated 12 events, it’s unlikely…

Jaymoss 30-03-2022 10:14
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36117758)
No we don't it could have been 1 person breaking the law 20 times.

I heard on the news this morning that a cheese board was involved at some point, i mean wow.
I could kill you with a cheeseboard, just sayin

Carth 30-03-2022 10:15
Re: Coronavirus
 
Are you sure it was cheeseboard?

Lots of news presenter/readers now have strange accents . . it could have been smorgasbord ;)

papa smurf 30-03-2022 10:30
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36117760)
I could kill you with a cheeseboard, just sayin
The diner party's off then.

---------- Post added at 10:30 ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36117761)
Are you sure it was cheeseboard?

Lots of news presenter/readers now have strange accents . . it could have been smorgasbord ;)
No it wasn't one of those strange northern accents, it was clearly done by someone educated to a professional standard suitable for broadcasting.;)

Jaymoss 30-03-2022 10:35
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36117763)
The diner party's off then.

---------- Post added at 10:30 ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 ----------



No it wasn't one of those strange northern accents, it was clearly done by someone educated to a professional standard suitable for broadcasting.;)
hahaha yeah, you should never underestimate the power of a good cheeseboard

OLD BOY 30-03-2022 12:40
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36117750)
The report's not out yet so how can you deem PMQs a waste of time. :confused:
I deem them a waste of time because all those questions were based on the nonsense being spouted by Dominic Cummings, a man you derided not that long ago for his capacity to lie.

Now, it seems, he’s totally believable.

Starmer would have been right to demand an investigation, but having had that reassurance, he should have shut up until he had the facts.

---------- Post added at 12:35 ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36117752)
I know!

Can you imagine the sheer cheek of people who think that the person in charge of creating and implementing the laws we all had to follow has to be responsible for personally following those laws, and be responsible for ensuring that those who worked directly for and with him had to follow those laws?

inconceivable!

Ignore those who remind you of his words after the North Shropshire by-election last year

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...efeat-12497869
The bit in bold. Again, a judgement you are making before the facts are known.

As for being responsible for those for whom you are responsible is concerned, as you say, he has already agreed that, and he has made changes to prevent a repeat of it.

---------- Post added at 12:38 ---------- Previous post was at 12:35 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36117753)
Never mind Starmer - you were the one who repeatedly told us no laws had been broken. Now we know they were broken by at least 20 people.

Will you now do the honourable thing and resign?
The PM said that he was told that no laws had been broken. To his knowledge at that point, they had not.

He will not resign for the actions of his staff. He has already removed the culprits.

If the PM is found to be personally culpable, that is a different matter.

---------- Post added at 12:40 ---------- Previous post was at 12:38 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36117761)
Are you sure it was cheeseboard?

Lots of news presenter/readers now have strange accents . . it could have been smorgasbord ;)
Maybe actually it was a clipboard. :D

Hugh 30-03-2022 16:54
Re: Coronavirus
 
Let’s continue this in the other thread, please?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33710650

Maggy 31-03-2022 09:28
Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51943612

Quote:

Most people in England won't get free PCR or lateral flow tests (LFTs) after 1 April.

A few groups will still be entitled to free tests, including frontline NHS staff.

Some free testing for the public will continue in Scotland until the end of April, and in Wales until the end of June.
Quote:
Free LFTs won't be available to most members of the public from 1 April, except for the over-75s and over-12s with weakened immune systems.
From the same article it would appear that the tests will cost about £2 each for everyone else.

Sephiroth 31-03-2022 09:44
Re: Coronavirus
 
Seems to me that Covid is now BAU - to be treated as a cold/flu with the normal channels to be used if you run into difficulty.

The “normal channels” is now, of course, an area of concern; the barriers to getting a doctor’s appointment are formidable. Doctors are sufficiently paid that can be part-time, reducing available slots. The Guvmin have stupidly under-invested in doctors’ training so we are short anyway.

And Labour woildn’t do any better either!

Jaymoss 31-03-2022 10:53
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36117842)
Seems to me that Covid is now BAU - to be treated as a cold/flu with the normal channels to be used if you run into difficulty.

The “normal channels” is now, of course, an area of concern; the barriers to getting a doctor’s appointment are formidable. Doctors are sufficiently paid that can be part-time, reducing available slots. The Guvmin have stupidly under-invested in doctors’ training so we are short anyway.

And Labour woildn’t do any better either!
I managed to get a telephone app with my GP for urinary problems for 28th April haha

Julian 31-03-2022 12:19
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36117849)
I managed to get a telephone app with my GP for urinary problems for 28th April haha
That sounds like a pisstake ......

Carth 31-03-2022 12:21
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36117850)
That sounds like a pisstake ......
:D very good :D

Ramrod 02-04-2022 19:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36117849)
I managed to get a telephone app with my GP for urinary problems for 28th April haha
Accessibility of NHS GP services seem to be very much dependant on where you live. SE London seems dire, Tonbridge in Kent seems to be operating without problems. Postcode lottery...

Damien 03-04-2022 16:18
Re: Coronavirus
 
I've heard decent things about those apps that let you do it online with a referral to a local GP often on the same day if required in London.

Mr K 03-04-2022 20:09
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36118037)
I've heard decent things about those apps that let you do it online with a referral to a local GP often on the same day if required in London.
And if you're an OAP that doesn't do 'apps' ?

Hugh 03-04-2022 21:31
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36118058)
And if you're an OAP that doesn't do 'apps' ?
Ahem…

Sephiroth 03-04-2022 21:43
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36118061)
Ahem…
Wasn't Mr K asking a valid question?

Hugh 03-04-2022 22:55
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36118063)
Wasn't Mr K asking a valid question?
A generalisation…

I am an "OAP" who uses Apps…

Sephiroth 03-04-2022 23:09
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36118067)
A generalisation…

I am an "OAP" who uses Apps…
What about the OAPs that don't use Apps?


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