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cheekyangus 01-11-2021 14:03

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36099603)
From what I was told this morning, 12 of the 13 Kids channels that had been free to all subscribers have been moved back to the Kids Pack and whatever pack Baby TV is in. So that would tie in with CN HD still being available. Shhh! they might not notice. :D

Baby TV was a standalone bolt-on channel before the Kids Pack existed, so it still might be.

Surprised it isn't closing, don't Disney own it these days?

epsilon 01-11-2021 14:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36099604)
Baby TV was a standalone bolt-on channel before the Kids Pack existed, so it still might be.

Surprised it isn't closing, don't Disney own it these days?

I understand it's a premium channel on Virgin but in the Kids pack on Sky. I don't think there would be any benefit to Disney in removing a premium lullaby channel from other platforms.

Media Boy UK 01-11-2021 18:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36099603)
Shhh! they might not notice. :D

Cartoon Network HD has since been removed from my boxes.

---------- Post added at 18:29 ---------- Previous post was at 18:27 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36099604)
Baby TV was a standalone bolt-on channel before the Kids Pack existed, so it still might be.

Surprised it isn't closing, don't Disney own it these days?

Maybe Baby TV will be axe as TV Channel when Nat Geo and Nat Geo Wild is closing.

vincerooney 02-11-2021 23:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36099542)
The bits of WWE that BT Sport have is the bits which are not in WWE Network.

The same goes for Peacock in the US - the bits that BT Sport has are on other networks in the US and are not on Peacock.

I don't think the WWE will offer their premium assets to a streaming service.

Oh no i dont expect the rule to change of RAW/Smackdown being added on the network for four weeks to give the tv rights importance.

But as a streaming platform having the wwe network content would be attractive for DAZN and WWE are looking at making deals.

Legendkiller2k 03-11-2021 12:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36099803)
Oh no i dont expect the rule to change of RAW/Smackdown being added on the network for four weeks to give the tv rights importance.

But as a streaming platform having the wwe network content would be attractive for DAZN and WWE are looking at making deals.

Again as i've already told you, DAZN have zero interest in WWE at this stage.
If anything WWE would go back to SKY and even they aren't that interested, WWE isn't the draw it used to be.

Media Boy UK 03-11-2021 13:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36099843)
Again as i've already told you, DAZN have zero interest in WWE at this stage.
If anything WWE would go back to SKY and even they aren't that interested, WWE isn't the draw it used to be.

Hope the WWE don't pick ITV - Look that the joke of the deal AEW got with them.

I can see Discovery or Premier Sports going after the WWE.

With Sky UK coping their sister network Sky Germany by getting the rights to AEW.

1andrew1 03-11-2021 13:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Before everyone speculates to death, we've still no official confirmation that a deal between DAZN and BT has been done.

Media Boy UK 03-11-2021 13:10

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36099847)
Before everyone speculates to death, we've still no official confirmation that a deal between DAZN and BT has been done.

Seen rumours that BT results for set to be revealed Tomorrow (November 4th).

Legendkiller2k 03-11-2021 13:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36099847)
Before everyone speculates to death, we've still no official confirmation that a deal between DAZN and BT has been done.

It's done.

Raider999 03-11-2021 15:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36099852)
It's done.


Any proof?

Media Boy UK 03-11-2021 15:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Movies 24 may close in 2022.

My sources has told me "The future of Movies 24 has got an question mark over it but no decision has been made on it as of yet."

TimeLord2018 03-11-2021 16:03

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I'd rebrand it as Sky Cinema Mix (with better films)

Legendkiller2k 03-11-2021 16:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36099860)
Any proof?

Yeah one sec i'll just post the contract shall i like?

1andrew1 03-11-2021 16:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36099860)
Any proof?

Tomorrow does look a good day for a deal or no deal with DAZN to be announced, for as Media Boy has mentioned, Q2 2021/22 results will be announced by BT.

cheekyangus 03-11-2021 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36099861)
Movies 24 may close in 2022.

My sources has told me "The future of Movies 24 has got an question mark over it but no decision has been made on it as of yet."

They could just sell the Movies24 channels, though I can't see it happening.

The type of films they show are frowned upon by many, but there is still an audience, I know someone who has significant periods of watching a lot of it. Most of their content doesn't seem to have a UK outlet elsewhere, aside from the odd bit on Channel 5 daytime. There's an audience and library of content out there for whoever picks it up, should Movies24 close. Whereas the Christmas movie content that boosts their ratings significantly (relatively speaking) every year would be a natural fit for the Great! Movies Christmas channel during its yearly rebrand, Great! doesn't have a "TV movie" channel during the rest of the year anymore as it used to years ago in a previous incarnation.

Given many of the Sky-branded entertainment genre-named channels have similarly low ratings, and they are unlikely to shut those down any time soon, they may just rebrand the main Movies24 as Sky Romance & Mystery and close the Movies24+ channel.

Media Boy UK 03-11-2021 17:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36099803)
Oh no i dont expect the rule to change of RAW/Smackdown being added on the network for four weeks to give the tv rights importance.

But as a streaming platform having the wwe network content would be attractive for DAZN and WWE are looking at making deals.

Media Boy Sources has just told Media Boy HQ that DAZN wants to give away BT Sport's WWE rights off their books as DAZN are more interested in UFC.

But I have been told that ViacomCBS are looking into taking over the rights from BT Sport.

Raider999 03-11-2021 19:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36099872)
Yeah one sec i'll just post the contract shall i like?


Sarcastic replies like that do no good - if people state things it is reasonable for others to ask for proof of what is obviously their opinion not fact.

Others are saying it may be announced tomorrow or in the near future.

cheekyangus 03-11-2021 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36099901)
Sarcastic replies like that do no good - if people state things it is reasonable for others to ask for proof of what is obviously their opinion not fact.

Others are saying it may be announced tomorrow or in the near future.

Legendkiller2k knows things through work that they cannot talk about. They may have assumed that was widely known on this forum in that case and they were being asked to reveal something that would risk their employment.

Itshim 03-11-2021 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36099901)
Sarcastic replies like that do no good - if people state things it is reasonable for others to ask for proof of what is obviously their opinion not fact.

As are 99% of statements posted here ...... In my opinion:dunce:

Legendkiller2k 04-11-2021 00:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36099901)
Sarcastic replies like that do no good - if people state things it is reasonable for others to ask for proof of what is obviously their opinion not fact.

Others are saying it may be announced tomorrow or in the near future.

I never said tomorrow though all i said was "it's done."
I have to be very careful what i say and yes i'm sarcastic.

---------- Post added 04-11-2021 at 00:54 ---------- Previous post was 03-11-2021 at 23:50 ----------

To add... If i was to "such and such is launching on this day" then something happens that delays the launch it makes me look aight plonker, this is why i never reveal days because things can change and i hope i have built up a trust with fellow posters on here and i wouldn't want to betray that trust by giving a date only for it not to happen on that date.

vincerooney 04-11-2021 01:40

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36099877)
Media Boy Sources has just told Media Boy HQ that DAZN wants to give away BT Sport's WWE rights off their books as DAZN are more interested in UFC.

But I have been told that ViacomCBS are looking into taking over the rights from BT Sport.

So channel 5? ViacomCBS are basically channel 5 over here?

ozsat 04-11-2021 05:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Channel 5 group already show weekly WWE programming in the UK after BT Sport have aired it - so would be an amendment to an existing rights deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36099877)
Media Boy Sources has just told Media Boy HQ that DAZN wants to give away BT Sport's WWE rights off their books as DAZN are more interested in UFC.

But I have been told that ViacomCBS are looking into taking over the rights from BT Sport.


Media Boy UK 04-11-2021 12:31

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
We have just found the following on the Ofcom web site

Licensee for Baby TV is Baby Network Limited

So maybe that why Disney did not axe Baby TV when the Disney was being axe early this year.

Also Nat Geo Channels has no License listed on Ofcom web site....

RegularCapital 04-11-2021 12:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36099985)
We have just found the following on the Ofcom web site

Licensee for Baby TV is Baby Network Limited

So maybe that why Disney did not axe Baby TV when the Disney was being axe early this year.

Also Nat Geo Channels has no License listed on Ofcom web site....

Baby TV was inherited by Disney via the transfer and purchase of a majority of the 21st Century Fox assets, it's an international feed (hence why it hasn't closed) now broadcast from Spain, the licence was handed back in December 2020, before the Brexit transition period ended. Other reasons why it hasn't closed is because it's not a mainline Disney asset, has a different business model, and in many cases, requires a premium subscription.

http://mavise.obs.coe.int/q/ondemand/Baby%20TV

The same above for National Geographic and National Geographic Wild, which now broadcasts from Spain since December 2020.

The channels are probably still managed from London, as playout can be managed remotely.

http://mavise.obs.coe.int/q/ondemand...graphic?page=2

Inactive Digital 04-11-2021 13:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36099925)
I never said tomorrow though all i said was "it's done."
I have to be very careful what i say and yes i'm sarcastic.

---------- Post added 04-11-2021 at 00:54 ---------- Previous post was 03-11-2021 at 23:50 ----------

To add... If i was to "such and such is launching on this day" then something happens that delays the launch it makes me look aight plonker, this is why i never reveal days because things can change and i hope i have built up a trust with fellow posters on here and i wouldn't want to betray that trust by giving a date only for it not to happen on that date.

According to BT's CEO, the DAZN deal isn't done.
https://www.tvbeurope.com/business/b...sport-sell-off

Legendkiller2k 04-11-2021 15:23

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36099996)
According to BT's CEO, the DAZN deal isn't done.
https://www.tvbeurope.com/business/b...sport-sell-off

Info we had said "it's done." i'm just going by what came on our systems in work.
I'm off work until Monday now so when i get in Monday i will defo recheck that information and post what i can.

Media Boy UK 04-11-2021 15:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36100016)
Info we had said "it's done." i'm just going by what came on our systems in work.

Maybe it down to paperwork still to be sign by BT and DAZN.

ScottishSteve 04-11-2021 15:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Some news that won't excite many. BBC is now listing BBC Alba HD being on Virgin Media

Although this is not the case at the moment it looks like it is happening soon, it currently remains SD

I noticed BBC Parliament is still listed as SD only.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help...hannel-numbers

Legendkiller2k 04-11-2021 15:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36100017)
Maybe it down to paperwork still to be sign by BT and DAZN.

Could be or even it could be a case of i mis-read the information which if i did ofcourse i'd hold my hands up to it, we'll find out Monday when i'm back in the office.

Media Boy UK 04-11-2021 15:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36100018)
Some news that won't excite many. BBC is now listing BBC Alba HD being on Virgin Media

Although this is not the case at the moment it looks like it is happening soon, it currently remains SD

I noticed BBC Parliament is still listed as SD only.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help...hannel-numbers

I am starting to feel

-BBC One English areas HD
-BBC Alba HD
-BBC Parliament HD

may launch on Astra UK and Virgin Media in January 2022 to time in with the relaunch of BBC Three HD.

cheekyangus 04-11-2021 17:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36100022)
I am starting to feel

-BBC One English areas HD
-BBC Alba HD
-BBC Parliament HD

may launch on Astra UK and Virgin Media in January 2022 to time in with the relaunch of BBC Three HD.

Well Richard reposted somewhere the other day that North West Tonight (I think) said on-air they were HD on Sky Glass and iPlayer now and it would be Early 2022 on Satellite and Freeview. So that fits with that.

OLD BOY 04-11-2021 20:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36100019)
Could be or even it could be a case of i mis-read the information which if i did ofcourse i'd hold my hands up to it, we'll find out Monday when i'm back in the office.

According to this report, discussions are continuing.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...ions-continue/

Legendkiller2k 04-11-2021 21:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36100083)
According to this report, discussions are continuing.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...ions-continue/

Yeah got a feeling i mis-read the document we got and put 2+2 together and came up with 10 lol, will defo recheck the document on Monday though.

Raider999 05-11-2021 08:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36100088)
Yeah got a feeling i mis-read the document we got and put 2+2 together and came up with 10 lol, will defo recheck the document on Monday though.

Business pages this mornings Telegraph

"BT said talks over a potential sale of sports television arm BT Sport were continuing"

So definitely not a done deal - although a change of some sort could still happen.

Interestingly, I presume Sky could bid if they wanted as 1 of the packages being owned by Prime would probably still satisfy the conditions.

jfman 05-11-2021 12:43

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I suspect it’s very much a done deal in principle it’s just ironing out the details. DAZN are desperate to enter the market and their relative flop to date in Italy demonstrates more than ever that taking ownership of an incumbent with a strong, cross platform presence is the only way a business model will be viable for some time to come.

Raider999 05-11-2021 13:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36100154)
I suspect it’s very much a done deal in principle it’s just ironing out the details. DAZN are desperate to enter the market and their relative flop to date in Italy demonstrates more than ever that taking ownership of an incumbent with a strong, cross platform presence is the only way a business model will be viable for some time to come.


The devil is always in the detail - if they can't agree details then their will be no deal.

Having said that I suspect a deal will be done - just not as yet.

Totally agree with the last sentence - but don't expect OB to:D

TMLeafs 08-11-2021 19:09

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Why are they still adding rights

https://www.bt.com/sport/cricket/the...tional-cricket

Phunkenstein 08-11-2021 19:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMLeafs (Post 36100486)

Why would they not keep acquiring sports content? It's still an ongoing proposition and if they do sell or partner with someone (or keep if no buyer is found) they want to ensure they retain their sub base and have a strong and broad portfolio to get as much as they want for it…

Legendkiller2k 08-11-2021 19:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMLeafs (Post 36100486)

Because talks are still ongoing and rights will continue to be retained, also renewing rights etc keeps BTsport attractive to potential buyers.

Media Boy UK 09-11-2021 11:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
If you look on Digital Bit Rates today it look like Virgin has removed over 50 channels.


NOTE: They been remove due to DBR (Cable) has not updated since October 25th.

cheekyangus 10-11-2021 09:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
ITV and Virgin Media have signed a new 5-year deal.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/vmo2-secur...d-iptv-service

Things that stood out to me in the article:
- full integration of ITV Hub
- programme start-over and cloud recording in the future
- VM's new IPTV service fully launching "early 2022"

---------- Post added at 09:32 ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 ----------

ITV Press Release regards it.
https://www.itv.com/presscentre/pres...l-partnership#

1andrew1 10-11-2021 10:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36100631)
ITV and Virgin Media have signed a new 5-year deal.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/vmo2-secur...d-iptv-service

Things that stood out to me in the article:
- full integration of ITV Hub
- programme start-over and cloud recording in the future
- VM's new IPTV service fully launching "early 2022"

---------- Post added at 09:32 ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 ----------

ITV Press Release regards it.
https://www.itv.com/presscentre/pres...l-partnership#

Interesting, thanks for sharing. Two things also stood out for me:

1. "A range of new features including programme start over and cloud recording will also be introduced for some Virgin TV customers in future."
2. "ITV will also be able to offer linear addressable advertising via IP delivery through the Planet V platform."

So:
1. Cloud recording is on its way for some channels.
2. Does this mean VM's IPTV service can tailor ads to its customers when they are watching linear channels?

cheekyangus 10-11-2021 11:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36100639)
2. "ITV will also be able to offer linear addressable advertising via IP delivery through the Planet V platform."

So:
2. Does this mean VM's IPTV service can tailor ads to its customers when they are watching linear channels?

That's the way I interpreted it. Isn't this what that that Ad Smart thing introduced a few years back does on existing boxes though? It was only for channels that opted in though, ITV decided to start its own version.

1andrew1 10-11-2021 12:10

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36100648)
That's the way I interpreted it. Isn't this what that that Ad Smart thing introduced a few years back does on existing boxes though? It was only for channels that opted in though, ITV decided to start its own version.

Thanks, I didn't pay much attention until now and assumed that was just for catch-up TV not linear TV. Interesting.

cupcakes aka dd 10-11-2021 12:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36100631)
ITV and Virgin Media have signed a new 5-year deal.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/vmo2-secur...d-iptv-service

Things that stood out to me in the article:
- full integration of ITV Hub
- programme start-over and cloud recording in the future
- VM's new IPTV service fully launching "early 2022"

---------- Post added at 09:32 ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 ----------

ITV Press Release regards it.
https://www.itv.com/presscentre/pres...l-partnership#

Does that include 5.1 instead of ancient crappy stereo?

BenMcr 10-11-2021 12:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 36100661)
Does that include 5.1 instead of ancient crappy stereo?

No

https://www.itv.com/terms/articles/viewerservices

Quote:

Are HD programmes available with Dolby 5.1 surround sound?

The ITV HD channels offer superb picture quality with sharp images, rich colours and amazing detail. However, we do not broadcast Dolby 5.1 surround sound.

cheekyangus 10-11-2021 14:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 36100661)
Does that include 5.1 instead of ancient crappy stereo?

Ever since Surround Sound TVs came out the sound mixes on shows have made hearing the TV a nightmare, things get made assuming you have the latest high end cinema equipment and it sounds awful on all other equipment. The mix is always poor, the balance is all wrong, and you can't hear the dialogue over the other sounds, or the music is 10x louder than the dialogue.

At least with stereo they know everyone has two speakers, the problem is that they may broadcast stereo, but they don't mix the sound to get the best out of it. Stereo isn't the problem, it's the way the makers have assembled the audio.

Proper 5.1 is great, don't get me wrong, most people don't have the right set-up.

Media Boy UK 10-11-2021 14:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Will this new deal see Virgin Media axe all ITV SD Channels from the network????

Here is my own view: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...2-signing.html

Itshim 10-11-2021 17:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36100631)
ITV and Virgin Media have signed a new 5-year deal.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/vmo2-secur...d-iptv-service

Things that stood out to me in the article:
- full integration of ITV Hub
- programme start-over and cloud recording in the future
- VM's new IPTV service fully launching "early 2022"

---------- Post added at 09:32 ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 ----------

ITV Press Release regards it.
https://www.itv.com/presscentre/pres...l-partnership#

Read it twice still none the wiser :erm:

Media Boy UK 11-11-2021 16:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36100680)
Will this new deal see Virgin Media axe all ITV SD Channels from the network????

Here is my own view: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...2-signing.html

Story on Media Boy Blog has been updated.

Media Boy UK 11-11-2021 20:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Media Boy Sources reveal "done deal" with Disney to launch Disney+ on Virgin Media UK.

Media Boy Sources also says the Disney+ app is ready to go with the hold up being at the Virgin Media end for them to press the button to launch on V6 and TV360 boxes.

Full story on Media Boy Blog at: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...veal-done.html

ScottishSteve 12-11-2021 10:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36100823)
with the hold up being at the Virgin Media end for them to press the button to launch on V6 and TV360 boxes.

Would that be the same button press that is holding up the launch of Sky Sports UHD

cheekyangus 12-11-2021 12:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36100874)
Would that be the same button press that is holding up the launch of Sky Sports UHD

There have been several Sky UHD streams testing on Satellite for a while now.

Jimbo did an updated post (covering various things, not just UHD) on the Digital Spy forum Sky news thread this morning.
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_99919730

Maybe it's Sky that's not yet providing, even for themselves, what VM signed up for?

Legendkiller2k 12-11-2021 13:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36100874)
Would that be the same button press that is holding up the launch of Sky Sports UHD

This is Virgin media though so if they say "just got to push the button" or "coming soon" you can prob expect it 10 years later lol.

Media Boy UK 12-11-2021 16:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36100823)
Media Boy Sources reveal "done deal" with Disney to launch Disney+ on Virgin Media UK.

Media Boy Sources also says the Disney+ app is ready to go with the hold up being at the Virgin Media end for them to press the button to launch on V6 and TV360 boxes.

Full story on Media Boy Blog at: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...veal-done.html

A story I posted last night has since been found out to be fake news (We use an new source).

I am really very sorry about that.

Hugh 12-11-2021 18:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36100924)
A story I posted last night has since been found out to be fake news (We use an new source).

I am really very sorry about that.

Handy hint - try to have two separate sources* before you publish.

*and that doesn’t mean one quoting another, but two separate independent sources.

epsilon 17-11-2021 00:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36100936)
Handy hint - try to have two separate sources* before you publish.

*and that doesn’t mean one quoting another, but two separate independent sources.

Getting a single source is difficult enough, getting two sources to agree with each other is a pretty tall order.

Hugh 17-11-2021 12:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101551)
Getting a single source is difficult enough, getting two sources to agree with each other is a pretty tall order.

Well, otherwise it's a rumour, not breaking news...

cheekyangus 17-11-2021 14:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
The retirement of the V+ has been mentioned recently, but this is the first time I've heard a time. The end of this month.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/virgin-med...re-old-v-boxes

BenMcr 17-11-2021 16:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36101633)
The retirement of the V+ has been mentioned recently, but this is the first time I've heard a time. The end of this month.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/virgin-med...re-old-v-boxes

That sounds familiar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36098883)
"Andyland" is now reporting on DS Forum that the information slates are saying:

"URGENT ACTION REQUIRED" and the description reads: "This Virgin Media service will no longer be supported and will be closing on 30th November 2021."

So what is closing V Boxes or V+ Boxes.


epsilon 17-11-2021 17:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36101597)
Well, otherwise it's a rumour, not breaking news...

It depends on the source and their connections to the industry. It's always best to treat "breaking news" as a rumour, however reliable, simply because plans can change at the last minute.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36101633)
The retirement of the V+ has been mentioned recently, but this is the first time I've heard a time. The end of this month.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/virgin-med...re-old-v-boxes

Rxtvinfo are a bit late with that one. Retiring old Liberate based hardware should allow Virgin to remove the obsolete infrastructure still used to support it.

Inactive Digital 17-11-2021 18:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
It seems odd they are replacing obsolete boxes with V6s, which I don't think are provided for new installs any more. Maybe it's a way of reusing older V6 hardware given the chip shortages.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101675)
Rxtvinfo are a bit late with that one. Retiring old Liberate based hardware should allow Virgin to remove the obsolete infrastructure still used to support it.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I'm aware, this is actually the first public report about what the information channel has been added for.

cheekyangus 17-11-2021 18:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36101652)
That sounds familiar

Well my memory clearly ain't quite what is was for dates. :D

Ta BenMcr.

BenMcr 17-11-2021 19:00

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36101686)
It seems odd they are replacing obsolete boxes with V6s, which I don't think are provided for new installs any more. Maybe it's a way of reusing older V6 hardware given the chip shortages.

There is an existing process to swap a V box for TiVo or V6 without disrupting the bundle or contract that's been in place since the replacement activity started.

That doesn't exist for Virgin TV 360.

epsilon 17-11-2021 19:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36101686)
It seems odd they are replacing obsolete boxes with V6s, which I don't think are provided for new installs any more. Maybe it's a way of reusing older V6 hardware given the chip shortages.



I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I'm aware, this is actually the first public report about what the information channel has been added for.

What I mean is, the end of service slates were added to the EPG of the relevant boxes on the 1st November, it has taken until the 17th for rxtvinfo to report this. I can't say I'm surprised, it's not really "big news".

Media Boy UK 17-11-2021 20:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36101690)
There is an existing process to swap a V box for TiVo or V6 without disrupting the bundle or contract that's been in place since the replacement activity started.

That doesn't exist for Virgin TV 360.

My late dad box was swap from V+ box to TiVo in April 2019. Information appeared in early March 2019 but I was banned from phoning Virgin up for two weeks to let him watch his John Wayne films. Then he forgot his PIN to order an new box so we has to wait an other week to get his PIN via Royal Mail before we try again. We has to try two times as Virgin forgot to put his PIN on the letter of the first one.:D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101697)
What I mean is, the end of service slates were added to the EPG of the relevant boxes on the 1st November, it has taken until the 17th for rxtvinfo to report this. I can't say I'm surprised, it's not really "big news".

Information was added to my blog about on November 1st telling everyone about V+ box being removed from November 30th.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...t-to-move.html

heavyside 19-11-2021 07:00

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Both my 360 boxes have received the 4.36 software update overnight. No obvious changes that I can see but I will explore later.

epsilon 19-11-2021 08:04

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Breaking News (information received this morning): 14 new service labels have been added to the SDT, all labelled "BBC One HD" and set initially to channel 108. I've been told that, at the moment, none of these name the region in the service label and they haven't yet been added to the NIT, so it isn't possible to guess the regions at this stage. These changes are thought to be the start of preparations for the addition of the BBC One HD English regions. (SID 10178 to 10191).

Media Boy UK 19-11-2021 19:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101853)
Breaking News (information received this morning): 14 new service labels have been added to the SDT, all labelled "BBC One HD" and set initially to channel 108. I've been told that, at the moment, none of these name the region in the service label and they haven't yet been added to the NIT, so it isn't possible to guess the regions at this stage. These changes are thought to be the start of preparations for the addition of the BBC One HD English regions. (SID 10178 to 10191).

They must be testing BBC One London in one of the SID you have listing as far as I know BBC One only have 13 channels only broadcasting in SD right now.

They are:
-BBC One East [East] (East of England)
-BBC One East [West] (Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire and parts of Buckinghamshire)
-BBC One East Mids (East Midlands of England.)
-BBC One NE & C (North East of England and Cumbria)
-BBC One North West (North West of England)
-BBC One Oxford (Oxfordshire & Parts of Wiltshire, Buckinghamshire and Northamptonshire)
-BBC One South (South of England)
-BBC One South East (Kent and East Sussex)
-BBC One South West (South West of England)
-BBC One West (West of England)
-BBC One West Mids (West Midlands of England)
-BBC One Yorks (Yorkshire and North Midlands)
-BBC One East Yorks & Lin (East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire)

Or am I missing an area?

epsilon 19-11-2021 20:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36101914)
They must be testing BBC One London in one of the SID you have listing as far as I know BBC One only have 13 channels only broadcasting in SD right now.

Yes, I guess so. The existing service data will be used to preserve recordings for a while, so London will need a new service-id. There is a London SD region at the moment as the HD service has no regional content. Also, at some point additional services will be needed for overlap areas.

Media Boy UK 22-11-2021 21:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Digital Spy Forum is reporting that Zee TV are restarting tests for Zee TV HD over on Sky Digital.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_99981451

Media Boy UK 24-11-2021 14:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Here a wee update on BBC One HD English regions from epsilon via DS Forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon via DS Forum (Post 36102129)
Some minor progress yesterday with the status of all of the new BBC One HD regions changing from not running to running but still no sign of any video etc streams.

See post 7144: https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_99996348

TimeLord2018 25-11-2021 12:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Now confirmed that BBC Three will return as broadcast channel in early February 2022.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...eens-confirmed

Media Boy UK 25-11-2021 17:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36102386)
Now confirmed that BBC Three will return as broadcast channel in early February 2022.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...eens-confirmed

Media Mole are reporting that BBC Three will launch on Virgin Media UK on February 1st.

cheekyangus 25-11-2021 19:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36102492)
Media Mole are reporting that BBC Three will launch on Virgin Media UK on February 1st.

It was in the OFCOM documentation.

Raider999 25-11-2021 20:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36102492)
Media Mole are reporting that BBC Three will launch on Virgin Media UK on February 1st.


Is media mole your pet?

Media Boy UK 25-11-2021 21:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36102507)
Is media mole your pet?

Forgot to post link: https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ry_471084.html

Media Mole is own by the founder of DS Forum.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36102503)
It was in the OFCOM documentation.

Just been reading that the OFCOM documentation in full.

epsilon 26-11-2021 07:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36102129)
Digital Spy Forum is reporting that Zee TV are restarting tests for Zee TV HD over on Sky Digital.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_99981451

And a few months on, they'll be closing everything again. They don't seem to like having firm plans. ;)

Media Boy UK 26-11-2021 12:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36102584)
And a few months on, they'll be closing everything again. They don't seem to like having firm plans. ;)

I saw the following link on Bizasia yesterday “ZEE-Sony merger in final stages”:

https://www.bizasialive.com/punit-go...-final-stages/

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I see that you have posted the following today on DS Forum:

Quote:

Two extra versions of BBC One South East (SDT labels) added overnight on SID numbers 10129 & 10130 (channel 858) but, apparently not allocated in the NIT. A massive gap in the internal serial numbers between these (2199 & 2233). Maybe Virgin have a large amount of extra channels to add!!! (P.S. don't bet on it).

A new mystery.
Maybe the 34 unknown channels are for the BBC One HD and BBC Three launch???

BBC Three HD (February 1st 2022).
-Ofcom wants Virgin Media UK to BBC Three HD launch on Virgin Channel 108 (In England and Northern Ireland only).
-Ofcom wants Virgin Media UK to launch BBC Three HD on Virgin Channel 124 (In Scotland and Wales only).

For BBC Three to launch in Scotland and Wales on Virgin Channel 124 I feel the following channels may move:

-GOLD HD - from Virgin UK Channel 124 to Virgin UK Channel 125.
-W - from Virgin UK Channel 125 to Virgin UK Channel 126.
-Ailbi - from Virgin UK Channel 126 to Virgin UK Channel 127.
-Dave - from Virgin UK Channel 127 to Virgin UK Channel 128.
-Really - from Virgin UK Channel 128 to Virgin UK Channel 172.
-TLC +1 - from Virgin UK Channel 172 to Virgin UK Channel 173.
-ID +1 - from Virgin UK Channel 173 to Virgin UK Channel 213.
-Quest +1 - from Virgin UK Channel 213 to Virgin UK Channel 214.
-DMAX +1 - from Virgin UK Channel 214 to Virgin UK Channel 215.

Also I feel the following areas need tiny up (In my view):

-Entertainment (I would move all Entertainment channnel down to sit beside their sister channels (Like E4 HD and More4) and move rest down and also merge with Lifestyle):
-Factual (Move channels down the wee bit by 11 numbers to start with Eden on Channel 261 making more room for Entertainment and Lifestyle channels):
-Lifestyle:
-Kids (After Channel 708):
-Shopping (Move to Channel 761 to make room for more kids channels to launch):
-International (After Channel 816):

epsilon 26-11-2021 15:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36102617)
I see that you have posted the following today on DS Forum:



Maybe the 34 unknown channels are for the BBC One HD and BBC Three launch???

No idea about the gap but I won't lose any sleep over it. I don't know why they would need 2 more versions of BBC One South East anyway. As I understand it, they already have a version set up for channel 858 and really shouldn't need 2 more of the same. Maybe they will be changed to something else later?

epsilon 01-12-2021 11:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
News received this morning:

The enforced obsolescence of old Liberate based hardware has been completed, with all remaining channels (BBC One (101), BBC Two (102), ITV/STV/UTV HD (103), ITV/UTV SD (113), Channel 4 or 4HD (104 or 108) and Channel 5 HD (105) now hidden from the EPG. The "Important Information" slate has moved from channel 100 to 101 and the message now reads: "This Virgin Media service is no longer supported". The slate formerly on channel 114 has now been hidden from all boxes.

The CNN International placeholder (to preserve recordings) has been removed.

BBC One HD regions started to be added to the PMT, all are now marked as encrypted. The PMT points to the existing BBC One HD video and audio stream (PIDs). Regions appear to be ordered in the same sequence as the SD versions but as the services still haven't been added to the NIT, this isn't conclusive at the moment.

And finally, the news everyone has been waiting for, the Nick Jr PAW Patrol pop-up has reverted to Nick Jr Too.:D

Itshim 01-12-2021 18:59

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36103681)
News received this morning:

The enforced obsolescence of old Liberate based hardware has been completed, with all remaining channels (BBC One (101), BBC Two (102), ITV/STV/UTV HD (103), ITV/UTV SD (113), Channel 4 or 4HD (104 or 108) and Channel 5 HD (105) now hidden from the EPG. The "Important Information" slate has moved from channel 100 to 101 and the message now reads: "This Virgin Media service is no longer supported". The slate formerly on channel 114 has now been hidden from all boxes.

The CNN International placeholder (to preserve recordings) has been removed.

BBC One HD regions started to be added to the PMT, all are now marked as encrypted. The PMT points to the existing BBC One HD video and audio stream (PIDs). Regions appear to be ordered in the same sequence as the SD versions but as the services still haven't been added to the NIT, this isn't conclusive at the moment

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused:

BenMcr 01-12-2021 19:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Basically all V boxes no longer work at all, CNN recordings won't be playable and work has started for the BBC One HD regions.

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Also All4 is now on the 360 boxes.

Itshim 01-12-2021 20:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36103782)
Basically all V boxes no longer work at all, CNN recordings won't be playable and work has started for the BBC One HD regions.

---------- Post added at 19:35 ---------- Previous post was at 19:35 ----------

Also All4 is now on the 360 boxes.

Thank you. You know you should never go in to politics. Far to clear and straightforward answers :D

ScottishSteve 01-12-2021 21:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36103782)
Basically all V boxes no longer work at all, CNN recordings won't be playable and work has started for the BBC One HD regions.

---------- Post added at 19:35 ---------- Previous post was at 19:35 ----------

Also All4 is now on the 360 boxes.

Now that All4 is there everyone will start moaning they can’t fast forward the ads.

epsilon 02-12-2021 01:39

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36103778)
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused:

Yeah, it does really need a dummies guide to...
but I just posted the info as I received it. :D

However, most of it should be fairly clear if you have been following the thread. Funnily enough, most of the tech. details posted elsewhere have been removed. :p

heavyside 02-12-2021 08:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36103782)
Also All4 is now on the 360 boxes.

Does anyone know if this is in HD or SD?

cheekyangus 02-12-2021 09:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36103866)
Yeah, it does really need a dummies guide to...
but I just posted the info as I received it. :D

However, most of it should be fairly clear if you have been following the thread. Funnily enough, most of the tech. details posted elsewhere have been removed. :p

Do you mean this forum, or the internet in general? With many things I find it's the latter.

BenMcr 02-12-2021 11:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36103878)
Does anyone know if this is in HD or SD?

All4 is in HD on the 360, currently in SD on the V6.

Integration with the 360 search for All4 isn't current available but I'd expect it'll be available at some point.

heavyside 02-12-2021 11:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36103903)
All4 is in HD on the 360, currently in SD on the V6.

Integration with the 360 search for All4 isn't current available but I'd expect it'll be available at some point.

Good news indeed about HD.

epsilon 02-12-2021 11:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36103883)
Do you mean this forum, or the internet in general? With many things I find it's the latter.

All I mean is that most of the uber-techy details were stripped out for the forum reports. Normally, the info is posted on DS Forum, which has more users interested in the technical aspects. It was posted here, largely because it is getting difficult to see any technical data while the Virgin monitor at digitalbitrate.com is offline. Also because CF posters are reposting the DS Forum posts anyway.

cheekyangus 02-12-2021 11:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36103912)
All I mean is that most of the uber-techy details were stripped out for the forum reports. Normally, the info is posted on DS Forum, which has more users interested in the technical aspects. It was posted here, largely because it is getting difficult to see any technical data while the Virgin monitor at digitalbitrate.com is offline. Also because CF posters are reposting the DS Forum posts anyway.

Thanks for clarifying.

Media Boy UK 02-12-2021 20:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Just seen the following over on DS Forum posted by kriZbii:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriZbii via DS Forum (Post 36103922)
The other Sky Cinema temporary name changes for the rest of the year are...
10th Best of 2021 > Music
10th Greats > Lord of the Rings
13th Lord of the Rings > Greats
17th Greats > The Matrix
18th Music > Wizarding World
20th The Matrix > Greats

Also December 15th - January 4th Sky Sports Arena > Sky Sports Darts


Itshim 03-12-2021 18:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36103789)
Thank you. You know you should never go in to politics. Far to clear and straightforward answers :D

Sorry but having read this a number of times it was as clear as mud .:erm:

---------- Post added at 18:42 ---------- Previous post was at 18:36 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36103866)
Yeah, it does really need a dummies guide to...
but I just posted the info as I received it. :D

However, most of it should be fairly clear if you have been following the thread. Funnily enough, most of the tech. details posted elsewhere have been removed. :p

I have and it was clear as mud . Guess something had gone off . But after reading three or so times., I was not at sure what the point of this information was. So yet again thanks to ben :)

epsilon 03-12-2021 19:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36104202)
I have and it was clear as mud . Guess something had gone off . But after reading three or so times., I was not at sure what the point of this information was. So yet again thanks to ben :)

Basically, it's for people who are interested in that type of information. I wouldn't expect everyone to be interested and, clearly, you aren't. Nobody is forcing you to read it. Feel free to just get on with whatever it is you come here for. :D

Aguero9320 05-12-2021 17:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Discovery now attempting to derail DAZN’s £600m buyout of BT Sport.

https://www.ft.com/content/33f4b1f5-...5-4375c3393c93

Frazz 05-12-2021 18:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36104420)
Discovery now attempting to derail DAZN’s £600m buyout of BT Sport.

https://www.ft.com/content/33f4b1f5-...5-4375c3393c93

Not having a subscription to the times I can't read it so no idea of the contents

muppetman11 05-12-2021 19:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 36104426)
Not having a subscription to the times I can't read it so no idea of the contents

Copy the headline on the page into Google search click it and you should be able to read.

cheekyangus 05-12-2021 20:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I noticed yesterday the new interface for BBC iPlayer had launched on VM. Main difference: the menus are on the left instead of on top.

VM has been missing on DigitalBitRate for a wee while now, but it has now returned. I'm assuming this is related to the TV outage last week. I wouldn't be surprised if it disappears again. I can see a new BBC 1HD on the regional multiplex, so that's likely preparation on VM for English regions finally getting HD version.
https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...iste=2&lang=en

epsilon 05-12-2021 21:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36104432)
I noticed yesterday the new interface for BBC iPlayer had launched on VM. Main difference: the menus are on the left instead of on top.

VM has been missing on DigitalBitRate for a wee while now, but it has now returned. I'm assuming this is related to the TV outage last week. I wouldn't be surprised if it disappears again. I can see a new BBC 1HD on the regional multiplex, so that's likely preparation on VM for English regions finally getting HD version.
https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...iste=2&lang=en

As you can see from that, using the same video PID & audio PID as the original service. Simply allocating a unique service ID number for each BBC region. As you say, and as I have posted previously, prep work for adding BBC One HD regions in England. 10180 will be for the north west.

As far as I know, its reappearance isn't connected to the outage.


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