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Rudi Guilliani admits he exaggerating voter fraud hmmmmmmmmmm you lost 39 court cases wonder why

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And the worm turns.

https://www.mlive.com/politics/2020/..._medium=social

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You have a link for that?

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There is mention of it here

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/polit...-ac360-vpx.cnn

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Does look like this is now pretty much done.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55052640

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This is all mind games until the electoral college votes.

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It's mind games for sure but not in any way that depends on the Electoral College. It's just about stringing along his supporters for additional cash.

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I agree https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1329878933043515392

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If you can find any small print confirming that a portion of the donations will be used to pay down election campaign debt, you have a point. Otherwise, not so much.

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Yup. What's good for the goose is good for the gander after all, although unlike the Trump fundraising e-mails which stipulated that a lot of the money will go elsewhere this does seem to be going to the transition.

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BTW The people making the most bank out of this are his lawyers. The NYT reported that Trump is starting to think he is being strung along which is why Powell was kicked out and why his tone has moderated in the last few days. Guilliani is doing well for himself.

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The NYT has said a million things that turned out not to be true. I think Trump would be playing the "stolen election" thing years from now and doesn't give a crap how much he spends on lawyers. Powell was not being paid by Trump.

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Pennsylvania is certified now. Time is running out.

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I'd say it's run out.:D

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BTW If Biden gets a State Visit the Queen would have met her 13th President - 12 of them as Queen. More than 1/4 of all the Presidents they've had.

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And Nevada.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...victory-440296

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The music they will play when Biden enters a room or stage, I find it quite rousing.
It's an oldie but a good one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqGV0FVcEZ8

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Right I sorry to admit this but I was in the audience many years ago when Cilla was host (This wasn't obviously broadcast but our episode had a real Italian Count, he said the 'O' was silent)

Anyway I sat on the very left and I overlooked the person controlling the autocue, they spoke to a guy in the audience who spoke to them, she said that they go at the speed of the person speaking, so the faster Cilla spoke she would move the text faster.

But when you have used it for a while it become a natural.

I guess he needs to find his feet.

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indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTtABxyqIUk

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Perhaps you could change the record, it's getting dull now and what are you comparing it to, the music playing when donny is helped into a room because there isn't any as pretty much no musician wants to be associated with him

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He's just trolling for reactions... ;)

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Perhaps he should read this from SoS Brad Raffensperger.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/6407586002/

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Mistaking those observant enough to see Trump's failings as Biden fans is a school boy error. ;)

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Minnesota now cetified.

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Well that seems the obvious way to post about it in a forum :)

There are only a small number that actually matter and are still waiting.

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:D:D:D

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Probably this is the real reason, as Delaware is (in)famous for the number of shell companies based there... ;)

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...mpanies-440618

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BREAKING: Michael Flynn has received a full Pardon this evening by President Trump.

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pardoning those that might have something against him his former cronnies

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Sadly, I understand that yet again there's no nativity scene in the White House this year.

They couldn't find three wise men. :D

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Just shows how much you know. Flynn still supports Trump. Actively tweets his support. The Pardon was for the crap show from Russian hoax investigation, led by Mueller, that found zero evidence of collusion, we all know now which side colluded, paid for a Fake Russian dossier. Those are the real cronies.

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i know Flynn still supports Trump that why he pardoned him i messed up message meant Flynn know things court could use against Trump if the lawsuits he faces happen

6 lawsuits Donald Trump is going to have to deal with when he leaves office

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/10/p...its/index.html

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Interesting. I suspect the only one with legs in that list is the first one concerning hush payments.

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It'll be interesting to see if anyone else gets pardons. All Presidents on their way out seem to issue one controversial pardon.

TBH I think lying to the FBI is a weird law. We, as with the US, have perjury as a crime but imagine if lying to the police was against the law here.

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It isn’t (lying to the FBI) if you are just denying guilt - it is if you make stuff up during an interview when you have been warned about it.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/...l-investigator

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The Michael Flynn case was a few bent cops in the FBI, Andrew McCabe, Deputy Director who was found to have lied three times, during investigations in to DOJ and FBI conduct, other FBI agents, the two lovers, who then worked on Mueller's watch until he turfed them out for controversial texts about stopping Trump, all turning the screw on Flynn, to get to Trump.

There is nothing controversial in Trump pardoning Flynn, the injustice was corrected by the power of the full presidential pardon.

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Keep believing!

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But Trump fired Flynn after it emerged that he had discussed lifting sanctions on Russia with Moscow's ambassador to Washington before Mr Trump took office, and misled the vice-president about that conversation.

These were the same lies Flynn told the FBI, and that he pled guilty to.

Are you saying he lied about lying to VP Pence?

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You're talking about events that happened at the time, some of us have learned a lot since then, so have the Trump Administration. It's all very immaterial.

Trump and Pence were mislead by corrupt officials, to get rid of Flynn, remember Obama fired Flynn and told Trump not to hire him, Trump immediately gave him a job, ignoring his predecessor.

Flynn phoned several foreign leaders during Trump's transition period, he was doing his job, basically like Biden's team is doing now. There is the Logan Act which forbids anyone to act as a U.S Government representative that does not currently hold the power shape U.S Foreign policy. If Flynn is guilty of breaching Logan Act, then so is Biden as he is already interfering in our UK Brexit affairs.

But nobody has ever been charged with breaching said act.

Basically, all Flynn did was lie to the FBI, that was the only thing Mueller had leverage on him for, to get to Trump, Mueller spectacularly failed and the hoax investigation was terminated, quite rightfully, by the current U.S Attorney General, William Barr. If Andy McCabe can lie and lack candor and get away with it, if several DNC associates and Hillary Clinton herself, lie and get away with it, then why should Flynn be persecuted for something as trivial as just lying like the others, I said above did.

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What about Flynn's failure to register as an agent of Turkey in 2016, a crime to which he admitted as part of his plea agreement?

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Immaterial - now that he's now been pardoned.

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Well it's a criticism of the pardon right?

Personally I think it's better for all concerned if Trump just pardons everyone and then Biden's administration won't be beset by further questions over former administration officials. If anything comes up then Trump's pardon has dealt with it, end of story.

We don't want the next four years to be about this with every DOJ action having questions on if it's politically motivated or not.

Biden should appoint a standard AG, stay the hell away from the DOJ and let everything move on.

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However much we want to criticise presidential pardon powers, it's there given by the Founding Fathers. The U.S Constitution that Justice officials and all agencies swore to uphold, not just parts of it, as you have mentioned, all presidents issue controversial pardons, President Bill Clinton issued his own brother one-that one raised a few eyebrows.

The power though can remove injustices and Flynn's was under an injustice.

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So far, Trump has granted clemency less frequently than any president in modern history


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...odern-history/

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Yet another thing they did wrong. Along with Independence itself. :D

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I don't reckon much to their constitution. The right to shoot each other if they feel like it, and the right of the those in power to pardon themselves and their mates...

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And the "3/5ths" clause (Article I, Section 2)

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They would have added it as a check on the courts no doubt. They really did like to add more institutions and more checks wherever they could.

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Strangely, that sounds like many of the places they've been at war with :D

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Don't you mean "introduced democracy to"? ;)

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oh yeah, only room for one lot of God & Gun crazy nutters on the planet I guess ;)

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Trump appeal in Pennsylvania denied (by three Republican judges, judgement written by Trump-appointed judge).

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-cont...0/11/Trump.pdf

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no surprise because they got no evidence as proved in all other court cases they lost

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Recount in Milwaukee County increases Biden’s victory there by 132 votes.

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Lol, the recount only cost Trump $3 million..... Anyway, well done Joe :D

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Isnt that kinda defeating the point of a "donation".

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I tried that with the bookies once. Didn't work either. More money for the lawyers, though. ;)

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Another legal case lost.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...15d_story.html

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It would seem to me that it's the right that would actually rather the electorate would favour corporate america.

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All of the Wisconsin recounts Trump paid for have ended with Biden gaining 87 votes: https://apnews.com/article/election-...a13cf4319591b0

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Biden fractures foot while playing with dog


Joe Biden fractured his right foot while playing with one of his dogs, an injury discovered in a scan Sunday and that will likely require him to wear a boot for several weeks, his doctor said


https://www.newsbreak.com/delaware/n...oot?s=web_push

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Make the boot big, heavy and strong enough and maybe he could use it to assist the incumbent out of his new office.

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A fracture at 78 years old could be slow to mend.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-while-meeting

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Could be worse...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1606732464

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The foot of god ?

Doesn't really matter because if he wins he'll have his feet up all the time as a PINO.

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Better than spending 304 days on his golf courses...

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We know Joe likes a more hands on sport:naughty:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ignored-claims

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Whats this papa using a lefty paper for once to further your claims.:nono::naughty:

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There not my claims Den, he's never had his hands on me.

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Ummm, PINO :confused:

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I think it's, President In Name Only.

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Correct.

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Probably ASOSNA*


* as seen on Sky News Australia. ;)

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https://triblive.com/news/arizona-ce...ry-over-trump/

*Both the House Speaker and the Senate President in Arizona are Republicans.

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Wisconsin is certified: https://apnews.com/article/election-...31b6b71aa32c3c

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Try deep breathing through your nose...

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Ah snoring.

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Working in the White House is now like “walking on egg shells” and nobody wants to be anywhere near Trump because he knows he’s losing even if he won’t admit it (even to himself):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55134022

:spin:

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We the People Convention placed an ad in Washington Times that is basically demanding President Trump invoke limited Martial law that could suspend the Constitution. They are saying the President has these extraordinary Executive actions and were actually implemented by President Abraham Lincoln in his efforts to save the Union during the Civil War.

All the above sounds right up Trump's street. :erm:

https://wethepeopleconvention.org/ar...ed-Martial-Law

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A national monument to Trump with a massive enthroned statue of him, a la the Lincoln memorial, might be exactly what he's after :disturbd:

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Reports: Trump Raised At Least $150 Million For His Election Challenges—Most Of It Isn’t Going To That

President Trump has raised at least $150 million since Election Day through an onslaught of appeals to supporters for help funding his unsuccessful challenges to the vote’s results, according to reports, but a large portion of the money could be put to other uses, including financing his next political move.


https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21161...hat?s=web_push

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1606852642

https://apnews.com/article/election-...1a9061a6c7f49d I think Barr might be about to get Krebbed...

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Bill Barred

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This also kills off whatever remote chance of Republican state legislatures ignoring the result and giving the EC votes to Trump, the fraud pretext has been undermined by Trump's own Attorney General.

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Just a realisation that he's out of a job anyway.

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'Losing'? He's lost, hes been 'fired'....

Can ex-Presidents claim unemployment benefit? Or maybe you have to have paid taxes first?

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Biden vote fraud claims: 288,000 votes shipped between state lines, says whistleblower


AN independent human rights organisation in the US has produced a whistleblower who has claimed to have seen up to 288,000 votes shipped between state lines, amid continuing accusations of massive voter fraud by the Democrats in the Presidential election.



The Thomas More Society is a conservative[1][2] anti-abortion[3] law firm based in Chicago.[4]

Their website describes them as "a not-for-profit, national public interest law firm dedicated to restoring respect in law for life, family, and religious liberty." The Thomas More Society defends and fosters support for these causes by providing pro bono legal services from local trial courts to the United States Supreme Court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_More_Society

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ts-fraud-claim

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As far as I know, none of these people have any physical or photographic evidence that stands up in court so far. Certainly not in any of the lawsuits filed and lost to date.

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Georgia election official urges Donald Trump to rein in attacks 'before someone gets killed'

https://news.sky.com/story/georgia-e...illed-12148892

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I think this video of two Trump supporters is fake but very funny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwVtrHHmMPs

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https://www.businessinsider.com/sidn....com&r=US&IR=T

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Worth viewing the video in this article, it's very funny! Even Giuliani gets frustrated with this crazy witness! :D

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-snl-character

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I don't understand why these affidavits that are proven to be wrong don't have consequences, I thought that was the point of them.