Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Indeed there is absolutely no proof that Virgin are short of capacity.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

BBC Alba is a Gaelic channel, isn't it? For that reason alone, I doubt the the BBC or their viewers would want the two merged.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

You yourself took part in the thread that showed that there was only space for four more HD channels (using current configuration).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Spiderplant says that more space can be created. I'm not sure why this is a big deal for you. What are you trying to prove?

There must be something we are not understanding, so could you clarify your reasoning, please?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

https://www.a516digital.com/2018/08/...k-worsens.html

Things are not looking good for VM this summer!:mad::mad::mad:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Yeah it is. The way I see it is it's a channel aimed at Scottish viewers, as is this BBC Scotland channel, they are pretty much competing for the same audience (in theory me).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Not really as one is a channel for the 10 Gaelic speakers in Scotland and the other will give more local news to the rest of the population who speak English

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Tha e nas coltaiche ri 60,000.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Still only 1.20% of the population so no real point in having it, were bullied by the Scottish Nasty party to have this

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Spot on mate, they are interested in one thing , and one thing only!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Whilst I get your point, in theory channels like Alba are launched not to cater for existing speakers, but to encourage more people to learn it.

So, like I said, in theory I'm their audience as I'm Scottish, live in Scotland and don't speak Gaelic. In practice I'm not interested in learning, and the only times I've had the channel on is to see the full replay football matches...which I've watched with the sound off/down. And anecdotally I get the impression I'm far from alone.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It's crazy, why should we fork out for stupid road signs etc in gaelic, when 90 odd % of the population can't read them, but the ones who can speak English anyway! Utter madness when the money could be spent on more critical needs like the failing health service in Scotland.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Not out to prove anything, just stating a fact. As previously explained, of course VM could create more capacity, but it would cost them more in terms of infrastructure.

I suspect that this is why they are phasing out the SD boxes so that they will no longer have to dual emit the channels broadcasting in SD and HD.

If nothing is done it is a concern as it could limit new channel additions.

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FFS, it isn't looking good is it. Maybe this will end up in the courts as the Sky dispute nearly did.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It's odd that they haven't included logos for Paramount Network HD, Quest HD and Love Nature HD that have 'HD' on them, as viewers scrolling through the EPG can't immediately identify which are the SD and HD versions of those channels.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Many logos are that indistinct anyway without adding more detail to them. I switched to text labels after a couple minutes. Even if I had a bigger screen I don't think I would find it any better.

Just a personal preference though, everyone's different.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I would have thought that Virgin wouldhaveto invest in more infrastructure anyway before long, to accommodate its new UHD channels. I really don't think space is an issue for that reason.

As for the UKTV dispute landing up in the courts, I don't think there is a case for that.

With the Sky dispute, it was Virgin taking Sky to court because it wanted reasonable terms to carry the channels.

This time it's UKTV who appear aggrieved, but they can't force Virgin to take their channels.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

The calculations that showed that they only had space for four more HD channels included reserved capacity for UHD channels. The new channels added to replace the UKTV channels appeared to be borrowing capacity from the TSID normally added to pop up channels and the UHD TSID was temporarily switched off.

When the UKTV audio & video feeds were removed a few days ago, the UHD TSID was brought back into service and BT 4k appeared.

I doubt there's anything to stop UKTV taking VM to court for, what they believe to be, reasonable terms to carry their channels.

They could argue that the new proposed deal was so unreasonable so as to constitute effectively forcing them off the platform.

The same thing could have been said about Sky not being able to be forced to supply their basic channels to VM.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It won't go to court. Virgin took Sky to court (did they agree a deal before it actually got to court?) due to Sky's dominant position in the market. The same can't be said of either VM or UKTV. Virgin can't be legally forced to buy UKTV's channels any more than UKTV can be legally forced to give them away for free.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Indeed not a chance of it going to court as that is a figment of imagination which is very wide of the mark,.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Well, you are entitled to your view, Richard, but in my opinion, UKTV has nil justification for taking VM to court. Like I said, they cannot force VM to accept their channels onto their platform.

As for your continuing alarmist posts about VM capacity, you will eventually have to draw the conclusion that VM had everything in hand after all.

[Ie we need more space? Let's create some!]

What a wonderful plot for a drama! :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Yes, a deal was reached before it went to court. Your post makes sense as to why it could have done in the Sky basics dispute, but probably won't with the UKTV dispute.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

We can agree on that.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I'm growing tired of your dramatic accusations in relation to your (claimed) perception my posts. I am entitled to my view of things, as are you.

As it stands, VM only have space for four more HD channels. This is a material fact.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

And I am also entitled to respond. As I said, they will create more space.

Drama over.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Material fact with what proof?,

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Wouldn't let the 'Old Giirl' get to you Richard ! She has a tendency to deliberately provoke ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I beleive the logos are provided by the channels themselves so not down to VM.

Some of the existing HD logos are difficult to see the HD anyway - it is easy to see the HD in the channel name of the right in the guide.

Watching QuestHD - they don't use HD on screen either so I guess they don't want it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Also the new function on the v6 box to switch to the HD variant by pressing the blue button is good. So if you want the HD channel but aren't sure of the number this is a handy feature

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I can think of 20 (at least) channels that could easily be dropped and perhaps 1 that I would like added!!!!!:shocked:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

The lack of space thing puzzles me. Given they recently moved most/all the HD channels to MPEG4 from MPEG2 that in itself would free up space with the codec being more bandwidth efficient.

And another thread on here is about them retiring V Boxes. VM have been slowly moving customers off equipment that can't do MPEG4. Once complete they can move SD channels to MPEG4 too. Another little space gain.

I wouldn't put it past them making any new channels available via IP rather than DVB-C. They've been talking about things like that for aeons.

Sometimes watching VM implement plans is like watching a sloth in treacle.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Can someone demonstrate that Virgin only have space for four more HD channels? I consider it quite unlikely.

Anyone got a frequency plan?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I second that. Richard C says it's a 'material fact' but I don't recall seeing anything to support his statement.
Years ago capacity on the VM network was an issue but that was before DOCSIS 3 and the major upgrades we've seen since, including the move to Mpeg 4 compression.
There are also some local 'capacity' issues where a street cabinet is oversubscribed.
If Spiderplant says there's no capacity constraint, there's no capacity constraint - he knows his stuff.
I don't think a 'Frequency Plan' would reveal much to us laymen.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

How relevant is the capacity issue really? If VM is able to add capacity quickly and cost-effectively then it ceases to be an issue.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I agree. I think Richard is right to say that the existing set-up has limited space available, but he goes a little too far in claiming or hinting that this is a major problem for Virgin Media.

I don't think it is, and as spiderplant has said more than once now, if VM need more space, they will simply create it.

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Is that really you saying that. Mr K? :D Stones and glass houses are words that come to mind!

I have not deliberately provoked anyone on the forums, but I have challenged some of the things they say where I do not agree with their comments. I, too, am frequently challenged, but being a discussion forum, isn't that what it is all about?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Den, you do know that you're in danger in agreeing with Old Boy on something? :D You might wish to wear a sun hat when venturing outside. ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

l would rather borrow OB's famous straw hat as its usually spot on Andrew.;):D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

As previously explained, it's already been provided in the thread about it.

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Indeed and it's getting wearing now, my life is difficult enough as it is without the likes of that.

Fans were unimpressed by the picture quality on Quest last night when they tuned in to watch the first EFL highlights show on the channel:

https://www.a516digital.com/2018/08/...retro-efl.html

There were reports of pixelation, wrong aspect ratio etc.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Please use the UKTV thread to discuss that situation.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...8#post35957908

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

The upper limit being they can only work with 115-860mhz. At 8mhz wide that allows for 92 downstream channels of which 24 are used by broadband.

Of the remaining 68 how many are being utilised? If not, why not?

Virgin have done work changing to 256QAM increasing the total bandwidth by 30% for TV. It can’t all be in use? Moving users to V6 from legacy boxes pushes “on demand” into the 24 broadband frequencies from the TV side.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Welcome to Virgin TV has moved from Virgin UK Channel 999 to Virgin UK Channel 997.:confused:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Wow lol perhaps it is so they can add a plus 1 and 2

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Or will stop using Channel 100 for showcasing channel and move it to channel 999.

Something like that NTL Channel.

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The BBC has confirm in the past that when BBC Scotland launch early 2019 BBC Two Scotland will close and all local programs will move to BBC Scotland. Also BBC Scotland will broadcast BBC Two (So we can watch May on four BBC Channels every Wednesday at midday:Yikes:) from midday to 7pm.

Channel 102 will become full time BBC Two England here in Scotland.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...s-new-bbc.html

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...or-bbc-in.html

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It’s sad with everything we have lost and tat we got, this is the best to come to virgin media

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Be patient, that is not all we are getting. There is more to come, including UHD.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Anyone else keep on losing BBC1 HD temporarily?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

You still keep saying this, with no evidence anything else is actually coming from anyone, and next to no channels left available to actually come (outside of Sky Atlantic, maybe, next year).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

l see that needle is getting stuck again OB.;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Happy we have got BT 4K channel.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I'll be happier when I buy my 4k TV

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Yes, their plan seems to be getting round the problem by using their existing capacity more efficiently rather than paying to create extra.

What I can't understand is why some of the duplicate channels have their own streams instead of both EPG numbers pointing to one?? I'm wondering if VM are deliberately maxing out the system in order to test it out, so this duplicate channel arrangement is being used for this. Apparently, the system appears to be under strain and so, to help it cope, placeholders for pop up channels, long closed channels like The Africa Channel etc have been removed.

Moving the majority of HD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4 was another way to use existing capacity more efficiently.

Contrary to what some think, i'm not being alarmist, i'm simply pointing out the current position. But is it really that bad that there is only space for four more HD channels (more if SD)? AFAIK we are only missing Sky Atlantic HD, Disney HD and AMC HD as extra channels, with the remaining ones like LFC TV HD taking less space because the SD version will be closed. The remaining SD channels that VM might get are MTV Classics and perhaps some more music channels or football club channels.

So, even at current configuration, most of the few outstanding channels could still be accommodated (reserved space that VM have made for UHD channels is included in the calculations).

When the SD boxes are no longer in use and the SD variants can be switched off, this will free up more space if VM wanted to add the odd missing channel too.

So, my understanding of the situation is, is VM nearing capacity- yes. Does it really matter- no.

NB there are some frequencies that VM won't use because of noise on parts of the network and they won't want to start adding channels to some areas and not others.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

You haven’t actually proven that this is the current position, nor is there a source for the speculation that there are “unusable” parts of the network- surely the solution would be to carry out maintenance in these areas? After all, they are extending the network it’s not as if they won’t have the people, expertise or equipment required to do so.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

While Richard has discussed it at length with people with evidence and the like, it's on a different forum and with a guy who I believe left here a fair while ago under not-so-good terms.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Okay, and nowhere there does it say that every frequency is in use at maximum capacity at 256 QAM. Last time I saw a scan there were frequencies carrying as few as two HD channels and others six, and as few at six SD channels or as many as twelve.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Of course there are more. Not everything should be compared to Sky's list of channels.

By the way, VM has already confirmed that there is more UHD coming soon, I believe this autumn.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

What channels do you think are going to launch / exist but decide not to bother with Sky and their double-sized userbase, exactly?

I have a 4k television, but I'm not that worried about 4k channels. The difference for any size television that would actually fit in my lounge is minimal compared to HD, so I don't care. Nothing against those who do care, but HD is fine enough for me.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Where is spiderplant when you need him?;)

I agree, I think there are some good amateur sleuths out there trying to work out what Virgin Media is up to, and I take my hat off to them for the time and effort they are putting into their mission.

But in the end, it is guesswork and I think VM is ahead of them. I am happier to go by spiderplant's reassurance that there are no capacity issues. I would be very interested to know, however, what he makes of jj20x's comments about all this on DS (see the 'New Channels' thread).

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Take a look at the Amazon channels, for a start. Don't forget that we may be talking about new streaming services as well as Prime.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

The latest information that i'm aware of shows that every TSID in use is full, apart from three (which is where the four HD channel figure comes from) and the reserved capacity for UHD.

If you go back in the quoted thread, jj20x shows a complete analysis.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

There is no such analysis in that thread, it doesn't offer any evidence to suggest that every frequency is in use, or those that are in use couldn't squeeze more channels in. It is all speculation - ironically from someone who also takes a negative stance towards Virgin.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Yes, there is if you go back long enough.

As previously explained on more than one occasion, I have no particular positive or negative feelings towards VM. They are merely a service provider who I will continue to use so long as they meet my needs at a price i'm willing to pay. With this in mind, it is fair to say that I am reevaluating my options after the recent removal of certain channels.

AFAIK, the other person you refer to felt the same way and is now set to cancel his TV service with VM. Nothing detrimental has been said about the capacity issues facing VM.

You are correct in saying that more channels could be squeezed in, but this would be at the expense of picture quality. This is what Sky and Freeview have been doing for some time and I believe that, if need be, VM will do the same before going to the expense of creating extra capacity.

Hopefully, they will be able to avoid this by eventually switching off dual emissions of channels in SD once there are no more SD only boxes in circulation.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Can you find me the link to that analysis please? As your “facts” rely upon it I feel the onus really is upon you to present it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Hear hear - it is impossible to prove a negative so as they say 'put up or shut up'

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I have no intention of doing your donkey work for you. It's you that is disputing the results of the scan, so it's for you to make the neccessary enquiries to satisfy yourself as to it's legitimacy. It matters not to me either way.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I’m not asking you to do donkey work - I’m asking about your specific contention that there is only space for 4 HD channels on the entire network which you repeat often enough. I’m saying it’s blatantly untrue and asking you to provide a clear and direct source to back up the veracity of your claim.

If I’m wrong, it shouldn’t be too hard to prove it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I think I've made the position perfectly clear.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got bigger problems to worry about. Such as what to have for tea.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

So that's a no then.So easy to win this discussion. Seems that you can't support your statement.l for one do not believe a word you post here or at another AND far better forum.where a dictatorship does not steamroller over people if they DARE to challenge the dictat of the small minded ######:shocked::rolleyes:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Then go and search it out- it is there.

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Exactly, I don't know why certain individuals are getting so concerned about this. It isn't as if it's something important either in life in general or with VM TV.

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Anything I post is done in good faith. It is then a matter for others to accept it without question, make their own enquiries to ascertain the accuracy of the information or reject it outright.

It's disappointing to note that you view forum participation as a case of winning and losing; most people like to discuss matters as adults.

If you believe that I post inaccuracies, I suggest that you put me on ignore. You then won't be tempted to blurt out this sort of thing.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Richard you are the one who is making the claim - I'm asking you to back it up.

It's quite apparent you cannot find such evidence because it doesn't exist. It's a number plucked out the air so you, and others, can pretend Virgin Media are "bandwidth constrained" when in reality they are not.

If you are using the post on this page:

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...-channels/p142

To back up your claim then that isn't even close to what it says - "based on the current configuration" when Virgin can drop on/off frequencies that aren't in use or change their purpose (TS-ID 38-41 in this case).

It doesn't quantify the unused frequencies in the range, how many additional channels could squeeze in to the existing frequencies or the fact that (in my area) at 10 of those in use for TV are in 64QAM mode, when 256QAM would release 130 Mbit/s for new channels - more than 14 HD channels given they squeeze 6 into 51 Mbit/s.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

The current configuration shows that there's only space left for 4 channels (if in HD), apart from space reserved for UHD, that are available across the whole network.

If people regard this as being bandwidth constrained, then I guess they are (although every platform could be said to be bandwidth constrained as it is not infinite!)

However, SP has stated that, if required, more bandwidth can be created. I'm under the impression that people thought that more TSID's would be brought into service, but this is not the only way (or the most cost effective way to do it). Several initiatives have been carried out and I dare say that there will be more to make better use of the existing bandwidth. So, whilst on paper they have nearly run out of space, there are things that they can do to make the existing capacity work more efficiently. In this sense, they have the potential to have more than the equivalent of 4 HD channels.

If someone ran out of kitchen cupboard space, they could simply buy another cupboard! A better way to do it would be to get rid of any useless or duplicated items and stack them in a better way. This way, they don't need to pay for a new cupboard and everything gets to fit into the existing space.

I don't actually think that there are now that many more channels that VM would want to add anyway.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

The current network configuration demonstrates no such thing. It's an outright falsehood to claim that this is any kind of meaningful upper limit.

Your cupboard space analogy is even more ludicrous. Your claim would be the equivalent setting an arbitrary limit, or an imaginary line, within the cupboard and deliberately not using space beyond it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

All the threads at the top of this board seem to be full of the same person having different arguments with people
It's becoming very dull

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Let's leave it that :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I fail to see how agreeing to disagree as you continue to misrepresent reality benefits any of the members of this forum.

I have proven you wrong. There is capacity for far more channels than you claim.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Time to leave it alone now as we are simply going round in circles.

On VM, channel 343 says that Vintage TV is currently off air due to a 'technical fault'.

This channel was recently removed from Freesat & Freeview and all day their satellite feed has been showing black level with tone (as has their internet stream).

Initial enquires to Sky and Vintage TV were met with people being told that they knew nothing about the channel being unavailable. Now Vintage TV are saying that, in order to make the channel as widely available as possible, the channel has been temporarily removed from Sky and VM.

Sadly, it looks like this channel could be in trouble.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

By your rationale the network now only has space for four HD channels and a single low bitrate SD channel.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

That’s a shame I liked vintage tv had some great late 80s early 90s indie

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It's said to be coming bzck to Virgin and Sky but not to Freeview or Freesat. However, I'm not sure whether that will actually happen, but fingers crossed.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Me too, but events over the past few weeks do look like the channel is in financial trouble. They appear to be trying to explain things away as businesses do whilst trying to obtain fresh funding, so let's hope that they are successful.

It was/is one of the most popular music channels, so the decline of this genre does now seem to be having a serious impact. I imagine that the new 4K MTV channel said to be coming will focus on the channel showing programmes instead of music.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Here's hoping VM can squeeze it back in again - what with all the capacity issues ;)
:p:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I would have thought a 4K music channel would be popular if it concentrated on music that people actually wanted to hear. I really don't understand why some music channels have morphed into children's 'comedy', reality and soap opera programmes. MTV should be concentrating on music. Isn't that what the 'M' stands for in MTV?

If the new channel doesn't contain music in abundance, they can stick it, 4K or no!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Instead of doing what they were set up to do its all about chasing the ratings nowadays OB.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Speaking of which, I watched it for a few seconds and noticed there was something missing from their "collection of on demand content", I wonder what it could be...:D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Slate now amended to say that 'Vintage TV is currently unavailable due to technical difficulties experienced by the broadcaster.'

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Well, at least they aren't misleading people about what to expect. It also indicates that VM really do believe that the relationship is over if they have gone to the trouble of amending this.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Music channels have had their day in my opinion.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

What makes you think that MM?.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Where's Demand 5?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Viewers of music channels have been going down for some time. Many attribute this to people using sites like Youtube, Vevo etc.

Talking of Vevo, even that is closing!

http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/news/...e-app-website/

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MTV 4K is only a rumour at this stage, no idea what if will be showing if it comes to fruition.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I think Richard's already answered it for me.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It's not really closing though. They are just going back to focusing on their YouTube channels and getting rid of their own apps and site.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Does effectively close it as a service for Virgin, though.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Yeah, that's what I meant, I should have made that more clear.

A tiny glimmer of hope for Vintage TV fans, their online feed has now returned. If it has finished as a linear channel, maybe VM could offer this feed instead??

http://watch.vintage.tv

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Sky Media: Christmas to start in September.

As we are in the middle of the hottest Summer in years Sky Media web site has confirm that True Christmas will launch in September 22nd.

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/opportuni...ky-media-2018/

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

August List update - August 9th update.

Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin Media UK and Virgin Media Ireland.

NOTE: I DO NOT WORK FOR VIRGIN MEDIA UK OR VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND SO ALL THE INFORMATION ON THIS LIST IS STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE

Colours on my list are as followed:

Media Boy = New Info just added.
Media Boy = Virgin Media UK/Ireland News and links.
Media Boy = Local TV news, other Media news/Things.

=== Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV ===
=== Freeviews on Virgin Media UK OR Ireland ===
(Put start date here). (Put channel name here) is having an freeview to all TBC Customers on Virgin UK/Ireland Channel TBC right now until (Put end date here.)

=== To Be Confirmed ===
-Virgin Media UK to launch Food Network +1 on Virgin UK Channel TBC soon.
-Virgin Media UK to launch IQTV on Virgin UK Channel TBC soon.
-Virgin Media UK to launch Travel Channel +1 on Virgin UK Channel TBC soon.
-STV to launch STV AD soon on Virgin UK Channel 853 (Scotland Only).
-Virgin Media Ireland will launch Cartoon Network HD soon on Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
-Raidió Teilifís Éireann may close RTÉ News Now in 2018 on Virgin Ireland Channel 200.
-Virgin Media Ireland will launch Virgin Media Sport on Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.

=== August ===
18th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema TBC A HD as Sky Cinema Denzel Washington HD on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
18th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema TBC A as Sky Cinema Denzel Washington on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
19th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema DC Superheroes HD as Sky Cinema Hits HD on Virgin UK Channel 403 and Virgin Ireland Channel 340.
19th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema DC Superheroes as Sky Cinema Hits on Virgin UK Channel 433 and Virgin Ireland Channel 318.
20th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema TBC B HD as Sky Cinema Adventure HD on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
20th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Adventure as Sky Cinema TBC B on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
27th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Denzel Washington HD as Sky Cinema TBC A HD on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
27th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Denzel Washington as Sky Cinema TBC A on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
30th. Virgin Media Ireland will rebrand TV3 as Virgin Media One on Virgin Ireland Channel 103.
30th. Virgin Media Ireland will rebrand 3e as Virgin Media Two on Virgin Ireland Channel 105.
30th. Virgin Media Ireland will rebrand be3 as Virgin Media Three on Virgin Ireland Channel 106.
30th. Virgin Media Ireland will rebrand TV3 +1 as Virgin Media One +1 on Virgin Ireland Channel 110.
30th. Virgin Media Ireland will rebrand be3 HD as Virgin Media Three HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 148.
30th. Virgin Media Ireland will rebrand 3e HD as Virgin Media Two HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 149.
30th. Virgin Media Ireland will rebrand TV3 HD as Virgin Media One HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 150.

=== September ===
1st. Estuary TV CIC Ltd to close Estuary TV by September on Virgin UK Channel 159 (Lincolnshire & North Yorkshire area only).
2nd. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Adventure HD as Sky Cinema TBC B HD on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
2nd. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Adventure as Sky Cinema TBC B on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
2nd. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Animation HD as Sky Cinema Family HD on Virgin UK Channel 406 and Virgin Ireland Channel 333.
2nd. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Animation as Sky Cinema Family on Virgin UK Channel 436 and Virgin Ireland Channel 303.
22nd. Sony will rebrand True Movies as True Christmas on Virgin UK Channel 424 and Virgin Ireland Channel 329.

=== October ===
20th. Comcast will rebrand Movies 24 as Christmas 24 on Virgin UK Channel 419.
20th. Comcast will rebrand Movies 24 + as Christmas 24 + on Virgin UK Channel 420.

=== November ===
7th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Drama & Romance HD as Sky Cinema Christmas HD on Virgin UK Channel 410 and Virgin Ireland Channel 338.
7th. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Drama & Romance as Sky Cinema Christmas on Virgin UK Channel 440 and Virgin Ireland Channel 308.

=== December ===
No News...

=== January 2019 ===
1st. At The Races Ltd will rebrand At The Races as Sky Sports Racing on Virgin UK Channel 535 and Virgin Ireland Channel 418.
3rd. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Christmas HD as Sky Cinema Drama & Romance HD on Virgin UK Channel 410 and Virgin Ireland Channel 338.
3rd. Sky will rebrand Sky Cinema Christmas as Sky Cinema Drama & Romance on Virgin UK Channel 440 and Virgin Ireland Channel 308.
4th. Comcast will rebrand Christmas 24 as Movies 24 on Virgin UK Channel 419.
4th. Comcast will rebrand Christmas 24 + as Movies 24 + on Virgin UK Channel 420.
4th. Sony will rebrand True Christmas as True Movies on Virgin UK Channel 424 and Virgin Ireland Channel 329.

=== February 2019 ===
-Virgin Media UK to move BBC Four from Virgin UK Channel 107 to Virgin UK Channel 163 (Scotland only).*
-Virgin Media UK to move BBC Four HD from Virgin UK Channel 163 to Virgin UK Channel TBC (Scotland only).*
-BBC Scotland to launch BBC Scotland on Virgin UK Channel 107 (Scotland only).*
-BBC Scotland to launch BBC Scotland HD on Virgin UK Channel TBC (Scotland only).*
-The BBC will rebrand BBC Two Scotland as BBC Two on Virgin UK Channel 102 (Scotland only).

*BBC Scotland and BBC Scotland HD Channels may launch UK Wide on Virgin Media UK - subject to carriage agreements. Info last updated on May 16th.

=== March 2019 ===
No News...

=== April 2019 ===
No News...

=== May 2019 ===
No News...

=== June 2019 ===
No News...

=== July 2019 ===
No News...

=== August 2019 ===
No News...

=== September 2019 ===
No News...

=== October 2019 ===
No News...

=== November 2019 ===
No News...

=== December 2019 ===
No News...

=== Unknown dates ===
-The BBC hope to launch English regional variants of its existing BBC One HD service as well as Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland editions of BBC Two HD - but still need to be approved by the BBC Trust.

=== Channels ONLY in Virgin Media Ireland areas ===
List last updated on August 9th 2018.

ONLY TV CHANNELS THAT ONLY BROADCAST IN THE UK ON OTHER NETWORKS WILL APPEAR ON THIS PART OF THE LIST.

ALSO THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CHANNELS IS CURRENTLY BROADCASTING ON VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND BUT NOT ON VIRGIN MEDIA UK:

Entertainment:
•RTÉ One +1 (Northern Ireland only)
•RTÉ One HD (Northern Ireland only)
•RTÉ2 HD (Northern Ireland only)
•TG4 HD (Northern Ireland only)

News and Documentaries:
•RTÉ News Now (Northern Ireland only)
•RT (Russia Today)

Lifestyle:
•Fashion TV

Kids:
•RTÉjr (Northern Ireland only)
•TRTÉ (Northern Ireland only)
•Cúla4 (Northern Ireland only)
•Disney Channel HD

Music:
•MTV Classic

Specialist:
•EWTN

Radio:
•RTÉ 2fm (Northern Ireland only)
•RTÉ lyric fm (Northern Ireland only)
•RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta (Northern Ireland only)
•UCB Ireland
•RTÉ Gold (Northern Ireland only)
•RTÉjr Radio (Northern Ireland only)
•RTÉ Chill (Northern Ireland only)
•RTÉ Pulse (Northern Ireland only)
•RTÉ 2XM (Northern Ireland only)

Channels only in Virgin Media Ireland areas.

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=== Ask Media Boy ===
Last updated August 9th 2016.

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A: Media Boy HQ gets all info from Media Boy viewers and Virgin Media workers (I called them Virgin Media Sources) and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: WHY HAVE YOU ADDED 'ONLY IN VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND AREAS' AND INFORMATION ON VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND ON THIS THREAD IS FOR VIRGIN MEDIA UK?
A: Virgin Media Ireland is now part of Virgin Media and are both owned by Liberty Global. And you voted for Media Boy HQ to join both Virgin Media UK and Virgin Media Ireland threads up for 2016.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''DISNEY CHANNEL HD'' FOR?
A: Disney Channel HD is only broadcasting in Virgin Media Ireland areas right now.

==== See you later ===
List last updated on AUGUST 9th 2018.

Next update: TBC.

A) If Virgin Media UK/Ireland are set to launch more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) in Virgin Media UK/Ireland areas.
B) If Virgin Media UK/Ireland are set to move more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) about in Virgin Media UK/Ireland areas.
C) If Virgin Media UK/Ireland are set to close or repackage more then TWO channels (TV or Radio) in Virgin Media UK/Ireland areas.

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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I thought that IQTV had already launched as an on demand service at £3.49 a month (free for Full House customers)? Is it starting as a linear channel showing old The Weakest Link episodes etc :confused:

Whilst on the Companies House website I had a quick look at Vintage TV. Their accounts have been overdue since 10 March, which is never a good sign:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07168296

Apparently, their net worth is -£695,858.00 and they only have £38 in cash.

I can't help but wonder if their name was a mistake. It makes it sound that their material is much older than it actually is ie 'vintage' conjures up images of the sort of thing that Talking Pictures would show. Those actually looking for such programming would find the content too recent. Also, the branding doesn't suggest that it is primarily a music station.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Next we will be having Easter before Christmas..;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

We already do:D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

When it launched Vintage TV used to show more music from 1920s/30s/40s/50s than they have done recently. They seem reluctant in recent years to go earlier than 60s. Which made the channel much more like other music channels. So many niche services (I'm including radio, magazines and websites in this too) get successful and then move away from what they were well regarded for in first place.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Oh right, thanks, I didn't know that.