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AFAIK Windows 10 removed all gadgets as they are a security risk.

So far, I've updated all the kit in our house to Windows 10 without any issues. After each install has been licensed in the MS Cloud, I've then wiped the installs and done a fresh install.
Accounts are then all set as local, i.e. not logging in with MS Credentials etc. and set as user accounts, not administrative. I never let any of my family log in with Admin, that's restricted for software installs etc. as and when required. I hold the password :)
So far, no issues what so ever.

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You can download http://8gadgetpack.net/ which gives you access to all the gadgets for Windows 10 you previously had before MS in their wisdom removed them

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Opening a gadget is as dangerous as it is to run an .exe file. But this is not a security hole. If an attacker wanted to access your computer, he'd need to convince you to open his prepared .gadget file. As long as you trust the source of the gadgets you install and you use anti-virus software you should be safe.
Quote from Microsofts official statement to this: "How could an attacker exploit the vulnerability? An attacker would have to convince a user to install and enable a vulnerable Gadget."

sourcehttps://technet.microsoft.com/librar...or=-2147217396

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Remember to run a virus scan over the downloaded file/package before opening it.

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Yes you can...

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Did you get your external HDD working and are you still on Windows 10?

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But does the "Ordinary User" see gadgets as programmes in the same way? They may check new "programmes" and be wary of them but a gadget is just a clock/weather/news/mail on the desktop.

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On a technical level, it may not be any more of a security hole than EXE files, but bear in mind a lot of gadgets are HTML and Javascript based, so are vulnerable to any security holes in the underlying browser. If they retrieve some of that HTML or Javascript from a remote website, that is also a security hole.

Finally, there is the problem of perception. People may perceive gadgets as safe, as they generally only display some information, and have limited functionality otherwise. The computer industry has also spent a lot of time educating people not to open Exe files from unknown sources, while largely ignoring other forms of executables (such as gadgets).

Not that the education, even for Exe files, has been entirely successful. I've still seen many computers where someone has tried to watch a dodgy streaming movie, been told they need to download a plug in to view it, then stupidly downloaded and run the plug in from the link the message gives them.

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No not yet, Not sure what to do !!!!!!!!

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All is fine now with W10. USB connections working. ;) Now I am Happy

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My partner updated the drivers this morning and the option to put the computer to sleep is not there anymore once she restarted the computer after the driver updates and she has since restarted it several more times and there is still no option to put the computer to sleep on the computer.

Any help would be welcomed please.

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I have W10 installed on my laptop, fully updated but running classic shell. Sleep, Hibernate etc are still available.

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I only ever shut down my laptop with Windows 10.
If I use Sleep or Hibernate, you don't get the Bitlocker protection, as the drive is not locked at this point.
Not sure if this is normal or not, but that's why I always shut down.

Besides with an SSD the boot time to the Logon screen is fairly rapid ... :)

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It seems to have worked itself out now after a couple more restarts but thanks nevertheless.

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If it happens again it may be worth checking the Power Options. I had problems with "Hibernate" not being available when I installed Win 10 on my laptop and Googling I found the following link:

http://winaero.com/blog/add-hibernat...in-windows-10/

Although this link is for hibernate the instructions take you to the Shutdown Settings options. Hope this helps.

I read on another VBB site Im on someones computer was being upgraded w/o his consent and he just TURNED IT OFF during the upgrade....... When he turned it back on it said "UPGRADE FAILED..... REVERTING TO YOUR OLDER OS" which he was happy of......

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Never switch off a device while it is upgrading. You could break it.

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Well I did when my lappy tried it. TBQH I'd rather have a brick than W10.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36640464

Here's hoping many more cases follow.

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Thank the Lord my PC was ok when it upgraded itself without my permission, With a help from a friend to explain things it is fine.

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Going to incur someone's wrath here, but .....
I've updated 5 laptops and 1 PC without any problems. A mix of Acer, Medion, Fujitsu and eMachines. Granted, all of them were upgraded, and then wiped and a clean install done afterwards.
Still, I can't fault the Win10 installations on any of them.
Maybe I've just been lucky.

Yes its good to see ppl standing up and attacking them back for this!!

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Windows 10 Anniversary Update Available August 2

http://news.microsoft.com/2016/06/28...et9t1wd3nk5ozr

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Anyone get a notification about their build of Windows expiring this month?

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Is M$ indulging in their version of project fear?

My copy of XP continues to function normally. :D

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Which build would that be and how were you notified?

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/07/12.png

Build is 11082. I'll check for updates tonight when I get in from work.

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mine has just done that (preview build machine) I think it's done that before, in my experience sometimes it fails to get the next preview build and install it automatically, so it does that. sometimes clearing up enough space on c fixes it, but what i've done before is dl the iso of the most recent build from

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...iderpreviewiso

14366 is latest, just done
start run winver on my machine and it says 14361.0
I'm a little behind, you're way behind

so I'l dl the iso, mount it, then run the setup from inside windows and it will update, bit of a palava, but it works.

btw, my laptop with retail version is on 10586.420

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remember tomorrow is final day for free upgrade for those not on windows 10 yet

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Thank goodness for that. I can go back to auto update on my W7 laptop without the threat of W10. I'll leave GWX active though just in case they throw a flanker.:erm:

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Good man, I'll do the same.

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Hope my sister hasn't forgotten to upgrade to Windows 10.

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good news

Mary Jo Foley ‏@maryjofoley 1h
1 hour ago

For those asking, MS spokesperson just told me Windows 10 Anniversary Update ISOs will be available from MS on Aug. 2, too

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What might be the case is that Microsoft continue to promote the upgrade but it won't be free now and so not try to actually install. The previous measures for preventing the nag could still be needed.

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new media tool for official Anniversary update ISO's

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10

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Windows 10 may still be free if you meet certain accessibility criteria.

My view would be that it should remain free for any edition not offered the upgrade, i.e. those on shelf in shop never switched on. But anyone one declined offer is now out of luck (or fortunate).

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I stayed with w7.I am of the"if it ain't broke don't fix it"brigade. I just do very general browsing so do not need any"improvements"w10 may have offered.Too many things these days are offered as"newest and the best ever"when all they really are is the same thing dressed in new clothes.Can someone tell if all the items microsoft downloaded to my computer in preperation for me "upgrading"to w10,are they still on my computer, or has microsoft removed them along with the w10 upgrade box.

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Would you like to expand on that?

Any decent shop wouldn't have a machine on it's shelves with outdated software on it.

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Why would a shop with boxed Win7/8 PC's open them to upgrade? If it's simply in the box like the software is out of date (and with many manufacturers stuffed with loads of crud).

Also lots of refurbished machines for sale with Win 7 on, though I tend to put Linux on those I get for the family.

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These upgrades take too long installing on a hard drive.

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I will do it when i am not working, hopefully it wont take long here and wont kill the system like last time.

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Updated to the anniversary edition this morning, all seemed to go well.

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I tried to upgrade my Win 10 to the anniversary edition and the process started and then froze completely, so I had to do a clean install and install my apps and configure then the way I wanted which was very time consuming.:mad:

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Updated, can't see any issues, wish I could move the clock into the corner though!

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I have updated one HP desktop and one Acer laptop. Only found two problems. The first affects both PCs. Before when W10 started it displayed my Microsoft account name and the picture that goes with it. Now it doesnt display the picture but if I signout and then signin it does.

With the Acer it somehow lost the key to start Kaspersky AV but on the HP it was fine.

Any suggestions on the picture problem will be gratefully received.

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My laptop updated yesterday to Version 1607 Build 14393.10

Since then I've noticed a small but rather welcome reduction in both CPU and memory use. CPU was running at around 12% idle now it's only 4%(ish)
it's the same with memory, down from 1.8Gb to 1.4Gb. Resulting in my temps dropping on idle by around 5c or more. Kinda nice!

Anyone else seeing the same results after the update ?

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You could choose not to display the action centre icon? That will move your clock to the far right of the taskbar.

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updated my laptop to the Anniversary update this morning had no problems
at All which makes a change . The Desktop clitch i hope has been fixed
will let people know.
This computer still on Win 7 and is perfect for my needs so here it will stay
deff not buying Win 10

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people often ask how to find their key, magical jellybean is often the answer, here's quick and neat way...

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows...l-product-key/

some powershell

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Got the Win 10 Anniversary update last night.

Apart from the Edge browser now being really slow all seems well apart from a notification that the Intel (R) USB 3.0 extensible host driver has been disabled as it is incompatible.

Is this likely to cause any problems?

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seems a known problem try reading this

http://www.tenforums.com/drivers-har...er-driver.html

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Had read a few posts about this problem, seems to have been an ongoing problem for quite some time now.

Thanks for the link.

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The last update on Sept 16 has reinstated my picture on the login screen

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Yesterday i updated my Windows 10 laptop and problems started
on Restart all ok until i opened a www window immeadiatly the
warning aout open file security do you want to do this .
Happened on Every Link really annoying and i followed advice
on interent setting to cure this it Does not .
Note This happens on WIN7 As well only way to stop it was to
Roll back to last point .I think this in update below

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3185319) was the one on win 7 that caused this.
Similar one on win 10

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Yet another reason to use an alternative browser that is not subject to M$ incompetence. ;)

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think this sums up a lot of people thoughts

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37431343

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Yup now its ***** officially.

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Just had what seems to be a major W10 update. It took longer than W10 took to install in the first place ! Had to postpone going to bed as it threatened the end of the world if I switched it off. Pile of pants.

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Since the Win 10 anniversary update the Edge browser has been virtually unusable. Chrome now set as default for the moment.:(

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Edge is a pile of rubbish

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my Laptop on win 10 i have turnd updates off untill M\S get there act
together which is likely never . most of these upgrades do nothing for
me .Should be Safe by keeping Antivirus upto date and no odd link
clicking by anyone who uses it.
My main computer this one Now on WIN7 And Panda Free antivirus
Chrome browser and very happy it is

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Yes you can say that again as it has been terrible since the update.

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on the win 10 laptop i use Firefox and that latest update that still made
the security alert box come up Every link . i checked that Firefox was set
as full default and the prompt before opening a link was unchecked .
Chrome on this Suffered the Same problem .only cure was Rollback.

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Have you tried a clean install of Windows 10 as that is very unusual to happen and on both browsers?

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Hmm! Touch wood Windows 10 has been working just fine for me..I quite like it..

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No issues here for me either, it is the best version of Windows so far in my opinion, although i like the Windows 7 theme better.

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Still wishing I could use 7. This new update is taking the pee. Doing both rigs at the same time, the one in the sig is running 2 SSD's with the OS on one. The other is just running a 2TB HDD, seems to be no difference in how long its taking.

If anyone's wondering, the only reason I have windows 10 is because 'good guy' Microsoft made it a requirement for any Xbox title coming to PC. Now they're going as far as making it neccesary to have Windows fully updated to use certain games.

Edge won't be an issue, can't remember the last time I bothered to use any browser offered by Microsoft. Back in XP probably.

I know 10 still seems to be adding 4gb to my GPU. Appearing in places as a 12gb card. Anyone had that problem? Seems to have little effect to games, where memory is picked up properly.

Edit: It's done, besides annoyingly re-pinning their own apps back to the taskbar, nothing seems broken.

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Not taking the chance with clean install . on Some it works others like my sons
he lost the computer for a while took days for it to reinstall
The answer i suppose is a spare Hard Drive install of WIN7 Using the original
serial number as long as same version of windows 7.
for older things i use Win XP 2Gig RAM And that flys it runs a programme
that only runs on that and Vista not on www so completly Safe

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Have to agree, very annoying to find some of the bloatware I'd deleted or disabled appears to have been re-instated!

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Did they botch something again? A midweek update (After the anniversary edition) re-ticked proxy boxes (Disabled on purpose) and crippled a load of programs.

-Origin - Wouldn't display anything
-Steam - Would log in but wouldn't display store
-uPlay - Wouldn't log in
-Skype - Would log in but wouldn't display the home page
-Spotify - Would log in but then claim it was offline.

I shouldn't have to go searching for settings being re-enabled after each update, everything should be where I left it. Windows 10 has a nice layout and I do like it but Microsoft are really starting to get on my... etc.

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People have had issues installing this update, although mine installed fine.

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Was done in 5 minutes (A Bugatti compared to the last one), just proxy issue above, I have no idea why it re-enabled settings I'd purposely disabled after the update. The anniversary update kindly pinned Edge and Windows store to my taskbar, cheeky sods.

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I'm having issue with Windows 10 calendar could someone please help me. I have the 10 mail app set up to have my hotmail and gmail account on and inturn that is linked to the calendar app. The gmail account settings does have calendar sync on but the calendar doesn't show anything

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For once I had NO issues after the last update. Everything I disabled stayed Disabled. Firefox stayed as my Browser and Edge gone to Oblivion. :)

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I have no issues. I've gone back to windows 7.

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I never left courtesy of GWX.:)

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Touch wood I am still on Windows 10 .

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windows 7 in daily use

LAPTOP Win 10 updating turned off no more problem

TABLET Android no problems

And my WIN XP NO problems as lovely as day i got it 12 years ago

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Thankfully it is far more settled now.

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Something like ourselves Den,

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My computer died last week, i worked out it was either the i3 processor or the motherboard, but seeing the motherboard chipset was so old and hard to source i replaced both of them with a newer chipset MB which also worked with my DD3 memory modules.

As Windows 10 was tied to the hardware i was worried i would lose activation which i did, but after a few clicks in Windows i was back up and running fully activated, i was expecting to have to call Microsoft and persuade them to reactive.

edit

Scrap the above as i noticed the date and time was wrong on the PC so i am guessing when i changed it it borked the activation and now i can't get it activated as the servers are down, will keep trying.

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have you tried phone activation

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Not yet, i will give it a few days to see if it starts working again as it didnt work at first the first time around.

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Don't bother waiting, just phone them and they will give you a new key.

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Got it sorted using online chat and PC access, i had to provide proof on MB purchase and gave them my original Windows 8 key, it took ages but it is all sorted now, not sure what kind of key i have now as it isnt a digital rights key anymore, but it is working.

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This might help

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-re...ardware-change


Tony

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Thanks, that is how i did it the first time, but after i changed the date time it went pear shaped and that method kept giving an error, but anyway MS sorted it now and i have a physical, so it may have worked out well.

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The standard calculator on Windows 10 doesn't work properly. It doesn't follow BODMAS, the scientific one does though.

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most calculators don't follow BODMAS unless you switch to scientific mode in my experience but hey use brackets and it don't matter ;)

---------- Post added at 18:05 ---------- Previous post was at 18:03 ----------

does any one else use ( unlocker 1.9.2 ) it seems that an update on it or windows not sure which makes it unusable and it gets reported as a virus :( if you do have you found an alternative .

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Every so often after an update W10 starts telling that Kaspersky and/or Defender arent running. Why?

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try install this update http://www.catalog.update.microsoft....px?q=KB3213522

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Thanks very much. Everything now appears to be back to normal.

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How to opt-out the Customer Experience Improvement Program on Windows 10 and stop sending data to Microsoft

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-op...ram-windows-10

for ones that want it

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There's easier ways.

No but no reason to is there??

Im on Win98se and it doesnt either.....

When you have 3 + 2 x 2.5,ya first type in 3 + 2 and the calculator will add those as soon as you hit 'X' YOU CAN THEN CONTINUE WITH YOUR OPERATION!! (Provided the preview doesnt confuse you)

Yes you can switch to advanced (Scientific) but it isnt really needed......

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I haven't seen these adverts in file explorer in either my Win 10 tech preview PC (even though it's done a few updates over last week or so ) or the laptop with win 10 home on it, but there's plenty of guides to remove them, but their appearance seems random, may be
linked to machines that had the "free" upgrade from Win 7 or 8?

http://www.infoworld.com/article/317...-explorer.html

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html


http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/9/148...-file-explorer

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They realy are trying hard to push people back to windows 7. If only Elite dangerus would run on linux i would dump Windows in seconds

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I've gone back to W7 on both laptop and desktop. I do still have W10 on a 2 spare HDD's but once support ends for W7 I'll most likely go Linux.