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Yes, I thought it was something like that. I don't want to be driven to watch a whole series in a month; I want to watch it in my own time as I can with my recordings and with Netflix.

Now TV is not the box for me, then!

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I really hope I'm wrong but I just don't see this happening. Sky don't care that VM users haven't got HBO content. In fact they probably love it, as it drives people to Now TV.

Exclusive deals are a sad fact of life these days. It's why Vikings is only available on Amazon instant and not Netflix. Consumers hate it but greedy content providers love it. Fortunately, there are ways around it whereby you can still pay for the content (i.e. not steal it) and stick a metaphorical finger up at the outdated system at the same time.

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Thanks, PB, although I'm a bit surprised as exclusivity would have cost them more. It's not like VM to pay extra to be exclusive!

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You don't have to watch a whole series in a month. Each episode is available for 30 days after its broadcast date. The first episode will expire just as the 5th becomes available. Fair enough there is still a constraint but 30 days to watch an episode of a show I am desperate to watch is long enough for us. We might sometimes wait a week to watch a recording of something but in general we watch things within about 3-4 days of broadcast.

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The trouble is, not all HBO shows' back seasons are available. According to MM, they add them for different shows at intermittent intervals.

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I'm still watching shows I recorded last summer, so being forced to watch stuff before I'm ready would be a step closer to the old system of being beholden to the programme schedulers. I want good flexibility, which Netflix gives me, so hopefully we will get an alternative via Amazon Instant before too long.

If we got a subscription deal with them, that would be the best solution. I understand from others on here that it's only the first run HBO dramas that are subject to an exclusivity deal that prevents this.

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Bear in mind that titles do expire from Netflix and Amazon instant.

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OB - they have the previous four weeks' episodes available in On Demand on the Atlantic shows, so you don't have to watch them all within a single month. For GoT, there are ten episodes in season 4 so that's plenty of time to view. Also, when in OD you can pause, rewind etc, which you can't do with the broadcast stream.
I'll be watching both GoT and Mad Men on my Now TV box this April, then stop paying when the former finishes again (Mad Men's only 7 episodes this season)

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Unless I am missing something, don't VM still throttle customers' BB?

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Cheers for the info, but all in all; the answer is yes. P2P throttling is still present according to that thread.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

No, we're talking USPs. Here are some more:

VOD without broadband contention
VOD without broadband at all
Premium channels on all boxes at no extra cost
Sky Sports and BT Sport in a single subscription
MRS
Three tuners

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

SKY Sports and BT Sports on the go with Virgin TV Anywhere. Only provider which offers all channels via one app.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Sky Sports is not available via the iOS and Android apps, only the browser on PC.

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they haven't cared about the extra income before why would they start now if they did they would let others have SA simple as that

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I see. Still better that what SKY can offer

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ITV are to close ITV4 +1 for two hours a day from Wednesday at 7am. So that an new ITV test channel called 'ITV4 Plus' can launch on Sky.

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Confirmed: Notts TV to launch May 27th on Freeview.

Local TV broadcast Notts TV has confirmed to Nottingham Post that they will launch on Freeview on May 27th 2014.

Rumours on the web say Notts TV are in talks with both Virgin Media and Sky.

http://www.nottinghampost.com/Action....html#comments

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Yes some people are only too quick to criticise and fail to see the benefits of some things that Virgin have as the Sky broadband at my parents is akin to a snails pace whilst at home our Virgin broadband does what it says on the tin.

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Is this only on Sky MB? The EPG on VM for ITV4+1 is as normal for tomorrow morning :confused:

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Look like Virgin still need to update ITV4 +1 EPG - Found info on my old Sky Box.

ITV has took over Sky Channel 193 for an new ITV Channel to launch later this year.

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Of course they care about income, Dave! That's why businesses exist. Up until now, Sky have viewed their USP as driving that income (in terms of attracting new and retaining existing customers).

However, faced with the new situation that is developing, with Netflix already providing video streaming to the Tivo and others shortly to follow according to reports, almost certainly Sky will want to keep this under review. Why would they be happy to see other content providers cashing in when that income could go to them?

We know already that you can see non first run HBO shows by other means by PPV (eg via Blinkbox) and perhaps it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that we will be able to get those shows also through Amazon First, and maybe even on subscription. Not as good as getting the first run stuff free on Sky Atlantic, but much better than we have now.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

thanks for the info MB

so basically ITV are testing a channel on VM which we wont ever get as theyre cuddling in bed with murdoch.

THE INDIGNITY!

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ITV4Plus will probably be a temporary placeholder on Sky for either ITV Encore or ITV Be.

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ITV4 Plus will only be on Sky (as broadcasters need to use Channel number for up-to TWO hours a day to keep channel number) but Virgin Media viewers will see 'channel off air' for two hours on ITV4 +1.

Virgin Media will add ITVBe to Virgin Media when ITV launch it.

Why cant ITV put ITV4 Plus on at 4am (Like ITV do with ITV4 +1 on Freeview) for?
Sky may move ITV4 Plus to the Shopping channels lineup and ITV will lose Channel 193.

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what I meant is they keep it them themselves rather than take the extra money from other providers for SA if they wanted the money they would have made SA available long ago they wont it will only ever be on sky and now tv

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Media Boy goes Yesteryear on blog.

Very soon you will find post from day one of Virgin Media on my blog. Hope to have them all online by April 1st.

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I don't see why they have to interrupt the VM feed though (unless VM take their feed from satellite).

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Yes, but you are talking about Sky Atlantic only. Given Sky only have exclusive rights to the first run series, there are other opportunities to show the decent programmes on SA (not that there are that many) via other content providers. If Virgin are able to get these for us from elsewhere, there is no reason why Sky would not prefer to take Virgin's money rather than see someone else collect. That's all I'm saying.

As far as I am aware, negotiations between VM and Sky are continuing over Sky Atlantic, other Sky channels and the proposed new Sky Bravo. I guess whether we ever get Sky Atlantic as a channel will depend how much VM are prepared to pay and how much Sky are prepared to bring down the price to get us to accept Sky Bravo. I rather got the impression that Sky Bravo would not be launched unless it appeared on Virgin Media. So I guess we will see.

All I really want is access to HBO programming. If I have to access those few programmes I want via PPV, I will have to accept that, but I'm still hoping that a subscription deal can be done with Amazon. Unfortunately, I think that avenue may not be available for at least 12 months as the ability to stream to TIVO boxes in a suitable quality may be technically difficult.

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Thanks for clarifying, Nialli, but I don't think the Now TV box is for me.

I recall that when we got Sky One back after the spat with Sky, we had three full series of Lost on the system and it was on there for quite a while. That is what I would want, and as I have only seen the first series of GoT, series 4 is no good to me at this time. I have now seen most of Mad Men (on series 5 at the moment) as I asked for the DVDs for Christmas! I dare say I will get Series 6 next December.

I must say that if the Now TV box had all the series of GoT, Boardwalk Empire, etc on there and it was guaranteed they would still be there in a year's time, I would be very tempted.

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Apart from last august (which was one quoted inside source article) has there been a single mention from any inside source or news item regarding this sky bravo?

I do really think this is a non news item and it's not related in any way to whether we get SA. The only reason we get it is either they are forced to or it makes commercial sense which sky has indicated that the price they want for it (be it in the millions or billions) has not been met.

More chance getting sky poker

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Still no news on Sky Bravo.

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Agreed. The Guardian article from last August which I think launched the speculation said "It is understood that the launch of the channel is likely to be put on the back burner, in the short term at least, as it has not managed to gain a distribution deal to air in Virgin Media's four million-plus households." Why The Guardian understood this is not known.

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I feel redundant as got no new info for you guys yet lol.

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Just make something up.

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lol. I'm tempted but i wouldn't do that to any of you guys.

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that's because nowts happening lol

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It really annoys me how VM keep harping on about the tv aspect of their business not being important and how people just want faster internet. Thanks for assuming what i want VM. I want more channels. I want tacky channels. I want pointless channels. I want stupid channels. I just want channels.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

I agree Vince, i having to resort to stream german tv via apple tv from my ipad to obtain more channels, so I guess in a way i am grateful for the internet speed

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So far Virgin have assumed that everybody wants faster internet speeds and BT Sport which in my humble opinion is fine to a certain extent but they also must listen to the customers who are not really interested in these but are more interested in having certain channels that Sky might have as one suspects if they don't then they will lose some customers to Sky in the short to medium term and also they must do more to improve the dreadful apps section of the TiVo as so far they have talked the talk but simply have not walked the walk in regards to this.

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Den what can VM do if sky wont let anyone have the missing channels please do tell as I said before and say again if sky give the missing channels they lose lots of customers we not getting them no matter how much us and VM would want them sky wont let anyone have them so nothing can be done

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Then why do a backhaul deal with Sky if they ain't prepared to do a deal in return for Sky Atlantic and the other missing channels?.

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backhaul and tv channels are totally different things though Den mate sky will not chance stance on the channels

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because VM need the cash more than Sky needs VM

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very true there

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That's a easy excuse to make and one that does not stand up to scrutiny.

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They are now owned by LG so that should not be a problem as the CEO stated that we will want as much content as possible.

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it the FACT Den don't kid yourself sky wont let anyone have the missing channels they don't need to either

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that takes 2 sides to make deal to get the content sky wont let anyone have there missing channel nothing VM can do as much as we all hate sky policy on that it wont chance sadly

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Because VM are in the business of making money just like Sky and the deal was reportedly worth around £49,million to them.

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exactly MM it got nothing to do with the missing sky channels

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Just because we have no further news doesn't mean that nothing's happening behind the scenes. Both sides will be very tight lipped until these negotiations are concluded.

Whether or not a deal is done may well depend on how badly Sky want their Bravo channel on VM.

I don't know on what basis you say that the two matters are not connected. Of course they are, VM will make sure of that!

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Don't think channels, Dave, think content!

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When company X wants something from company Y and company Y wants something from company X, surely you have to be a little blinkered to think there is no connection. These sorts of deals which to the untrained eye are unconnected can suddenly reveal themselves as being the key elements in a negotiation.

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Surely an article in The Guardian is more credible than the rumour mill on this forum. I wouldn't discount it that easily - no news is good news. To discover talks have broken down (and this hasn't been reported anywhere to my knowledge) has an air of finality about it. So as far as we know, negotiations continue.

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and when company x wont let anyone have the thing company y wants what can company y do about it absolutely nothing you have to stop kidding yourself OB

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Sorry Vince, why waste money (which subscribers foot the bill for in the end) on 'Tacky, Pointless, Stupid' channels?

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I agree Den, but I think the real reason that VM are focusing on fast BB and streaming content being added to Tivo, is that streaming is the way all content will be delivered in the future. For many of us, the future is now and I believe the number who that applies to will grow sooner rather than later.

Yes, at this point in time, unless you have a large family who are all streaming different things, you don't need 100meg BB. But as streaming grows in popularity, 100meg for a family will not be out of order.

Also being able to advertise that you have the fastest BB is a great thing and will attract customers because even though many people may not need it, they want it anyway, even if it's just for 'Bragging Rights'.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Only a rumour i've heard. To combat the growing success of BT Sports and Netflix Sky may reduce the wholesale costs of their movies and sports packs across all platforms.

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that would be good news if it happens

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You missed the bit about company x wanting what company y has to offer. In your argument, both companies miss out. In my analogy, it's win-win.

In the real case of Sky v Virgin Media, if Sky won't give VM what they want, even if VM are making it conditional on putting Sky Bravo on the platform, then VM will get around that problem in a different way (in this case via streaming content, one presumes, minus the first run shows, which just means a relatively short delay).

But it is a very short sighted proposition to deny VM the ability to upload the older Sky Atlantic programmes (ie not the first run stuff) when VM can access them by other means, thus denying Sky the income. Utterly pointless, actually.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

It seems to me that traditionally people chose Virgin for broadband and ended up with cable tv by default, whilst people chose Sky for tv. More recently those lines have become blurred, and there is also now competition in the fibre broadband market. Virgin certainly can't compete in both markets, and I think there is complete sense in reverting to the differentiation that has traditionally served them well. Virgin have a very good tv offering, most of the major channels, the only place to get both major sports broadcasters in a single subscription, and TiVo. In addition their broadband is competitively priced and they can market it as the UK's fastest.

If people really want every channel under the Sun then Sky is, always has been and probably always will be, the place to be. I appreciate not everybody can get Sky, but that's no reason to be upset with Virgin just because they've chosen not to compete on quite the same terms.

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I agree with all of this, spot on, Passingbat.

It might be wise for VM to help their subscribers to understand that their focus on broadband and streaming content will actually enhance the viewing experience for their TV customers. A lot of people seem to be getting the message that TV is not a priority or even a consideration for VM in the future, which is clearly not the case.

VM have done wonders in adding channels over this last year and I am very happy for them now to concentrate on streaming more content.

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if sky was bothered they would have let others have it long time ago OB sky don't want anyone to have it that's the whole point

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I think you are talking about Sky Atlantic Dave. I'm talking about the very same content that is available elsewhere. However, I understand that you are not getting my point. Nuff said.

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well all the missing channels OB they wont let anyone have them at all that's the point your missing and yes that includes SA

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You are still talking about channels, Dave. I'm talking about streaming content which is already available.

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yes and that cant happen without sky agreeing which they never do OB on the SA content

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I think it might happen mate as Sky are clearly starting to see the likes of BT,Netflix and Amazon as a real threat now.

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Sky have no say whatsoever on the likes of Blinkbox and Amazon should they join Virgin Media. Allthough the HBO content via Blinkbox and Amazon would ofcourse be on a PPV basis but there is nothing stopping Amazon or Blinkbox turning around and saying "we're going to bring out a monthly pass system for our PPV content." such as say pay £10p/m and you can access the ppv content without any extra charge. Unlikely to happen but it could and Sky won't have a say in the matter.

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Well the last laugh is on me. After all this time, I've just cottoned on to the fact that I am exchanging correspondence with a pre-recorded message set to auto-reply. Silly me!:LOL:;)

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That's wrong because the service would then become subscription , the movies Blinkbox show are on the service earlier than Amazon Prime , Netflix and Sky Movies for a reason and thats because there PPV not subscription.

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This is the point I was trying to make, but I'm not sure why you think it is unlikely. Discussions with Amazon may well come up with a subscription arrangement such as Netflix and a simple request by VM could lead Amazon to securing us that hankered after content. Sounds simple enough to me - what are the problems with this exactly?

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I think we are all agreed that the first run content would be PPV. However, what about when SA have shown those programmes? Others have commented on here that Sky only have exclusive access to the first run content, not to the older series of these shows.

Accordingly, there is no reason why we can't see Game of Thrones series 1-3 on an Amazon Instant subscription, is there? What is the barrier to this happening in your view? I'm not sure I understand why you think this is not possible.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

I don't need to prove anything I have access to HBO shows but if I were to cancel Sky and decide Now TV wasn't for me could you point me in the direction of a subscription On Demand provider who gives me older HBO shows without having to use smart DNS ?

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Oh, I see, you are talking about what is available now, I get it.

I'm talking about a future arrangement that could be made with Amazon in relation to a new Amazon Instant app on subscription. I do understand that a subscription arrangement involving the older HBO shows may not be available now. What I am saying is that this could be part of a negotiation between Virgin Media and Amazon. That is all.

There is nothing to prevent this from happening, as far as I can see, as no exclusivity deal with Sky would prevent it apparently.

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Good point.

One way they could do it is the cost gets added to your vm bill if you order the ppvs via tivo etc. I don't think that will happen though i think you will need a valid debit/credit card still linked to your prime/blinkbox account. They may allow paypal though.

For now though Nowtv is certainly the only option available to none Skytv subscribers who want subscription based HBO content without using vpns etc.
Even Nordic HBO have now stopped accepting credit cards outside the Nordic region i believe.

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Yes, and that is correct, we know that the only way we can see first run shows by this method is by PPV. But look at the older HBO stuff. No reason why that shouldn't be on subscription if Amazon chose to do this, is there? Or am I missing something?

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Don't bet on it as all the leopards l know never change their spots.

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According to Unblockus, who as I understand it have been in touch with HBO Nordic, that shouldn't have happened. It was a consequence of changing their Credit Card processor and they are hoping to get it sorted.

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Thanks mate i'll keep checking on it.

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Am well into some research about alternatives at the moment. Seems to me that LoveFilm by post for £7.99 a month is excellent value and, because it is a DVD rental service it has hbo and even Netflix original content. I know it's a little old fashioned, and you have to wait for the DVD release, but if that doesn't bother you I don't think I can find a better value way to source the kind of content you're all talking about, plus a hell of a lot more besides. And it's £1 per month cheaper still if you have an Amazon prime membership, which, as a Kindle owner would be worth it for other reasons as well.

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Its superior in that it offers Blue Ray as well with its 5.1 HD audio and 1080p video.

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Indeed. We don't have a bluray player, so I'm trying to convince the OH, who wants to stay with Virgin, that a £200 on a combined smart bluray freeview hd+ box, knocking out the Virgin tv, but keeping phone and broadband, keeping the Now tv box for the occasional sport I watch, and then picking up a subscription to LoveFilm by post is the way forward. Reckon we'd have made back the initial outlay in less than a year and will have access to a broader range of content than we currently have. OH is, understandably, nervous at the initial outlay with no guarantee that we won't regret it.

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If you're keeping phone and BB, then there should be no need to spend the £200 on the combined smart bluray freeview hd+ box, as VM should let you keep a Tivo with M TV; probably at a lower price than just phone and BB. You can then buy a £60 Smart BR player, and you've saved even more money.

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It sounds a bit ocd, but I don't really want an epg full of greyed out channels, and it would also mean an extra stb on the cabinet, but yes, that would certainly be a cheaper option.

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I take your point, but no combined Bluray/Freeview PVR that I've come across has anywhere near the functionality that Tivo has.

Just the expiring series links on Freview PVRs would be enough to make me rethink that one.

Also, re the greyed out channels, could you add things as Favourite channels and display that on the guide?

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

The expiring series links would be less of an issue because the plan would be to rely more on catch up services (most things have longer expiry dates on the native apps than they do on Virgin's 7 day service), bluray box sets, and maybe some streaming services, although I agree, this is one of TiVo's best features and I'd miss it. To be honest though, I'd like to try and do without the recording facility because I think with other services that's now achievable, but going for a +box is both a catch all and a compromise.

One of TiVo's worst features is the fact that if you default the epg to display just your favourite channels it does so for precisely one hour before reverting. There are enough button presses with TiVo as it is without adding to them everytime you just want to view the guide.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

What you plan to do is feasible in my view and it was the route I was planning to go down. After initially considering buying a Freeview PVR, I decided to just use catchup services for the terrestrial channels and not bother with a Freeview PVR. But when VM offered me a cheaper price to keep one Tivo with M TV, it made sense to combine streaming with Tivo. The Picture quality on the five main HD channels, is definitely better on Tivo than on the streamed versions, so that is a bonus. But if keeping a Tivo had been an extra cost, I wouldn't have done so.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

...but keeping TiVo will be an additional cost for you, as there is a TiVo charge somewhere in your total charge. Also, you will be paying for a landline that you may not want.

Did you ask for a price without TiVo but with TV M?

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

I've appreciated the back and forth, it's helped with looking at my options, so thanks.

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http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ghts-channel-5

Could Discovery team up with Virgin Media for the next round of Premier League rights?

Hope so that will give them something barter with when dealing with Sky/BT.

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You would think it would be extra, wouldn't you, but I was surprised to find that it was cheaper!

I had XL TV XL BB and XL Phone and two Tivos.

I rang up to cancel TV completely and just have XL Phone and XL BB and to pay the line rental up font.

The price they quoted for XL Phone and XL BB was cheaper than the price advertised on the VM website for those services and I accepted that price. Then the CS agent said that if I kept one Tivo with M TV, they could reduce the price by a further £5 for six months and then by 50 pence for a further 12 months.

I guess that since I already had a Tivo installed, it wasn't costing them to leave it in my home and they were hoping I would see a show only available on a higher TV package and up my TV package to be able to watch it.

Also, I suppose it's possible that they want to keep as many TV subscribers for end of year sales figures.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Not in a millions years.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

You've hit the nail on the head , traditional TV sub's are becoming harder and harder to replace , why do you think Sky now reports Now TV subscribers in with its satellite customer base.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

No, because Virgin Media/Liberty have made it clear that they are not interested in bidding rights to broadcast content.

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Or they could just let us have Sky Atlantic, that would bring in a few pennies.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Somehow this scenario is as likely to happen as of the great master ever deserting his great fortress of Skydor.;):D

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

As far as i'm aware Virgin Media have no interest in bidding for any football rights as they wish to focus their attention on faster speeds and on demand at the moment.

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SA isn't in lgs current plans bud.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

see OB is still dreaming about something that never gonna happen

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

It will happen just not anytime soon.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

no chance they will not let anyone have it more chance of snowing in hell forever

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Definition of Hell "your own nightmare" so if you nightmare is snow then there is snow in Hell. :p:

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Hence why pay TV operators are investing so much in mobile , YouTube in 2011 reported 6% of viewing was on mobiles this increased in 2012 to 25% and by 2013 was an astonishing 40% so clearly the appetite for video on mobile is there.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

There is nothing wrong with dreaming Dave as you know only too well.;):D

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Except when your driving.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

You may be right but I'm sure most of us lost interest in this particular will it/won't it story a long time ago

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Erm anyone get an email today off VM saying they've been supercharged?? The email says "youve recently been in touch with us to increase your broadband speed, so youre now up to 100MB one of our new supercharged broadband speeds"

i havent called virgin media...

i've logged into my online account and it is now saying 100MB! Bizarre. Why on earth would they do this without me asking for it?? Better call them up?????

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Because you would have pre-registered. All pre-registered customers who have compatible kit have had their speed upgraded