Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611327)

V. Interesting Chad. VM and BT can really force Sky to seriously look at it's sports packages prices and availability to other broadcasters now. It will be interesting to see if many VM customers decide to stop Sky Sports because they can they can see plenty of football (albeit lots of non-pl football) free of charge through BT Sports.
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611334)

Cheers Chad. That is a great comparison. The only things Sky have now are HD and Atlantic, which to be fair, are what many people want currently.

You are spot on with your comments with regards to the BB and BT sport value with VM. I also think that TIVO is very good value at a fiver a month, esp. (as you say) if anyone was to consider the possible savings from extra broadband costs.

In regards to TV Anywhere/Sky go (my knowledge is poor), I do believe VM still have more channels you can watch live too? I know BT Sports is a bonus for TV Anywhere at the very least!! I also believe there is some form of optional charge for Sky Go with regards downloads but not from VM. Another point of difference is that you can watch your recordings on TV Anywhere, but I have not seen that advertised by Sky (happy to be corrected on all these points though).

Lets hope VM do get Sky Atlantic next month, and I have no reason to doubt Howard's statement given he was right about BT sport. I will be fascinated to see what Sky do next (other than offer a cheaper price for their packages)!

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35611357)

Cheers Harry but please remember I only say they are planned and from the info I was given sky Atlantic is planned for autumn,bomberaf has recently confirmed this and as gone as far to say sept and a date.i suspect like bt sports the deal is sorted and its just waiting for a launch day(but I could be wrong) in regards tv anywhere as far as I am aware you can not watch recorded program's with it think it as been talked about but I suspect we will see on demand streaming first;)

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35611314)

SKY Sports on Virgin Media costs £25.75 plus £7.00 if you want SKY Sports 1 and 2 in HD. That's £32.75 per month for just 8 channels.

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611348)

Really? After all the postings saying that BT sport was rubbish, didn't have games anyone wanted to watch, you think they will decide it is now the best thing since sliced bread?

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35611359)

I don't know why everyone is getting so excited about possibly getting Sky Atlantic..Because there was a time we were missing Sky 1 only for us to get it back but Sky to go ahead and set up Atlantic instead and put their new super super shows on that..;)

Now would they do that to us again? ;)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35611363)

Oh we are sounding a bit sour this morning....

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611348)

Really? After all the postings saying that BT sport was rubbish, didn't have games anyone wanted to watch, you think they will decide it is now the best thing since sliced bread?

Nope, can't see that happening.

You could argue if there was a viable choice (ie a price), people would drop the BT sport, for sky. But I would be very surprised it happening the other way

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35611361)

Don't forget SKY Sports is due for a £3.25 (or £3.75) price increase on VM come October which will then make it £36.00 a month including HD compared with about £27.25 on SKY.

In order to keep people subscribing to SKY Sports on VM, I wouldn't be surprised to see SKY drop the premium HD charge in the coming months as otherwise people are just going to drop it and SKY need the subscribers and advertising revenue to fight back against BT Sports.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35611359)

I don't know why everyone is getting so excited about possibly getting Sky Atlantic..Because there was a time we were missing Sky 1 only for us to get it back but Sky to go ahead and set up Atlantic instead and put their new super super shows on that..;)

Now would they do that to us again? ;)

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35611370)

I do wonder if thats where sky atlantic comes in could the hd version be part of that premium??? ;))

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35611400)

Or you never know, they might keep it and give us SS3, 4 and F1 in HD! :erm:

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35611361)

Don't forget SKY Sports is due for a £3.25 (or £3.75) price increase on VM come October which will then make it £36.00 a month including HD compared with about £27.25 on SKY.

In order to keep people subscribing to SKY Sports on VM, I wouldn't be surprised to see SKY drop the premium HD charge in the coming months as otherwise people are just going to drop it and SKY need the subscribers and advertising revenue to fight back against BT Sports.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35611295)

Oh dear,TiVo gonna be round a few more years yet so hopefully all the problems will be sorted

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35611317)

I have a feeling eventually VM will be renamed UPC, mainly because the name Virgin is only licensed to them and I'd hazard a guess that has an expiry date. Probably not right now, but in a few years, then they can operate under one brand

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35611431)

I'm sure that the LG CEO said that those issues had been fixed (but I guess he would say that :erm:).

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I can see why that could happen, but I think the last thing Digital Cable in the UK needs right now (or anytime soon) is another rebrand.

NTL >>> NTL-Telewest >>>> VM >>>> UPC?

I'd rather they spend the 'rebranding' cash on improving services - more channels, more content (yeah, I'm a greedy bugger!), maybe even getting more channels working with MRS and perhaps even getting the Android version of TVA out.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some dishes to wash, then, FREE HD EPL FOOTY to watch, MUHAHAHAHA! :D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611438)

you do (hopefully) realise it isn't free. Merely part of your package

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611334)

Cheers Chad. That is a great comparison. The only things Sky have now are HD and Atlantic, which to be fair, are what many people want currently.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35611441)

Better then paying a extra £12 to £15 though.:D

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35611361)

Don't forget SKY Sports is due for a £3.25 (or £3.75) price increase on VM come October which will then make it £36.00 a month including HD compared with about £27.25 on SKY.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35611447)

Sky have to be very careful in these coming months with price rises because the goose that has laid that golden egg for many many years might start laying ones which are the equivalent to fools gold.

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611453)

??

Have you been reading excerpts from the cantona book of phrases?

Or are you back to the drinking again.

A bit early for the game :D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611438)

you do (hopefully) realise it isn't free. Merely part of your package

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611348)

Really? After all the postings saying that BT sport was rubbish, didn't have games anyone wanted to watch, you think they will decide it is now the best thing since sliced bread?

Nope, can't see that happening.

You could argue if there was a viable choice (ie a price), people would drop the BT sport, for sky. But I would be very surprised it happening the other way

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35611457)

hahahha passionate

I heard you and Rupert are drinking buddies? What was your share options this year? Did you get the million pound pay out from the shares? Go to ruperts Australian French imported mansion?

No you're a customer. We're customers of another tv provider. We pay money and someone flicks a switch giving us moving images. Unless you are getting money paid to you based on skys success there is no need for this

calm down colin... its only a tv provider :angel:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35611407)

I didnt want to post that but i would not rule it out ;)

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611469)

Are you on drugs? (I mean the recreational ones, not any of the ones you may normally take for your condition).

I said that the vitriolic comments about BT sports (that some were making) made the proposition about dropping sky sports as unlikely.

You might consider reading a post before commenting. It will help you lots.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35611489)

I'm on love colin. love.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611486)

Well now that i have got to move again in the next few months i really am considering going back to VM if i can, there is a lot to consider

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35611497)

You will be welcomed back with open arms my young apprentice.:)

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611502)

That is nice to here. Im serious thou, ive got to move house again sadly amd when i do nearer the time i will be looking into it

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611509)

Wow; did VM know exactly how earth shattering adding BT sports to XL TV would really be!!!?

Three Sky stalwarts ready to defect; MM, Chad and Mr Stokes. I'm beginning to think that's why they did it :D

It will be great to have you all back :cool:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611502)

That is nice to here. Im serious thou, ive got to move house again sadly amd when i do nearer the time i will be looking into it

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35611443)

I'd say more people would prefer not to be paying the £12/£15 for BT Sport.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611512)

Is just about cost to me at moment

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35611517)

Same for us all bud and I think vm is certainly proving to be value for money and more so over the coming months ;)

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611486)

Well now that i have got to move again in the next few months i really am considering going back to VM if i can, there is a lot to consider

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611519)

As nice as it would be to have you back from the dark side, it would mean less banter from you Sky boys.:(

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35611515)

come back good sir. we can spoon with Richard branson with a shiny new TiVo box in between us.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611519)

There is a lot to consider currently. If you phoned Sky today and threatened to leave them and said BT Sports was a big factor in your decision, I reckon you would get a pretty decent deal from them though.:)

As nice as it would be to have you back from the dark side, it would mean less banter from you Sky boys.:(

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611520)

There will only be Colin left. I hope you don't get lonely Colin :erm:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611520)

There will only be Colin left. I hope you don't get lonely Colin :erm:

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611523)

Aw, it would be so sad to see Colin all alone. He should come join us as well, where things ARE better;)

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611522)

So puzzled how i would be lonely,

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611524)

better?..in what way?

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35611529)

if you come back to virgin not only will you get bt sport for free which includes the wonderful Michael owen you'll also get a nod and smile (possible hug) from me

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611530)

I get BT sports for free already.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35611533)

someone pm'd saying you were related to jake Humphrey. is this true?

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35611533)

someone pm'd saying you were related to jake Humphrey. is this true?

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611535)

As much as it is true you are related to shrek...oh..wait..maybe that is more true :D

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611536)

Now now colin, that was a bit harsh as we all know that Shrek is beautiful in his own way :D:D:D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611540)

That is true...someone must love him...just that they won't admit it out loud :D

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35611553)

We are pretty much as you where with pricing , VM is cheapest however BT Sport can be added to Sky in a few ways to get you pretty close to VM's pricing.

BT Infinity with free BT Sport is £23 , Sky Entertainment Extra + is £32 and BT Line rental can be had for £11.75 totalling £66.75

Sky BB unlimited is £7.50 , Sky Entertainment Extra + £32 plus line rental of £14.50 , BT Sport £15 totalling £69.

Its also worth noting for those taking Sky Sports that VM charges £25.75 were Sky charge £22 , the premium HD charge on VM is £7 compared to £5.25 on Sky and Sky includes all Sports channels in HD. Sky's prices above are the increased ones from September 13 so VM could potentially increase the Sky Sports sub costs.

As always said it depends on your requirements as too which is the best for you.

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611556)

Does VM users get sky sports 3 and 4?

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35611553)

We are pretty much as you where with pricing , VM is cheapest however BT Sport can be added to Sky in a few ways to get you pretty close to VM's pricing.

BT Infinity with free BT Sport is £23 , Sky Entertainment Extra + is £32 and BT Line rental can be had for £11.75 totalling £66.75

Sky BB unlimited is £7.50 , Sky Entertainment Extra + £32 plus line rental of £14.50 , BT Sport £15 totalling £69.

Its also worth noting for those taking Sky Sports that VM charges £25.75 were Sky charge £22 , the premium HD charge on VM is £7 compared to £5.25 on Sky and Sky includes all Sports channels in HD. Sky's prices above are the increased ones from September 13 so VM could potentially increase the Sky Sports sub costs.

As always said it depends on your requirements as too which is the best for you.

Originally Posted by greyposter (Post 35611568)

No they don't

Originally Posted by geordiechris (Post 35611570)

Yes we do, however we don't get them in HD.......yet ;)

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611524)

better?..in what way?

Originally Posted by geordiechris (Post 35611570)

Yes we do, however we don't get them in HD.......yet ;)

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611571)

Yet :D

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611572)

Better STB, better bb, no dealings with BT, free repairs, better customer service, more reliable picture quality, more channels on TV Anywhere, one bill each month. I could go on but I will stop there.

I guess Sky have a channel I don't really care about or want and HD variants I can continue to live without though. You will also get lots of attention from BT too:)

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611572)

Better STB, better bb, no dealings with BT, free repairs, better customer service, more reliable picture quality, more channels on TV Anywhere, one bill each month. I could go on but I will stop there.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611572)

Better STB, better bb, no dealings with BT, free repairs, better customer service, more reliable picture quality, more channels on TV Anywhere, one bill each month. I could go on but I will stop there.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611583)

I think you should have carried on... I was kind of enjoying it. Now, on the other hand, If I were a Sky customer... I'm not sure that would be the case... :D

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611583)

I think you should have carried on... I was kind of enjoying it. Now, on the other hand, If I were a Sky customer... I'm not sure that would be the case... :D

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611585)

You should take over and carry on :)

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611587)

He needs to go on..if he is trying to prove some point, all he seems to have done is embarrass himself :D

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611589)

Why put a substitute on when a guy is playing an ace? :D

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611589)

Why put a substitute on when a guy is playing an ace? :D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611591)

If you mean playing with himself, yes, he is doing a good job, lonely I would guess...so maybe you should join him :D

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611603)

That lonely comment I made about you when your other friends come over to VM really hurt you, didn't it? I am so truly sorry. I didn't mean to upset you in any way. But don't worry, you'll soon find other little friends to play with, I'm sure.

LOL

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611605)

You do need to get a life, if you feel anything you say can actually hurt me.

I am now starting to feel sorry for you :D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611535)

As much as it is true you are related to shrek...oh..wait..maybe that is more true :D

Originally Posted by dieseldip (Post 35611611)

Are you are related to Shrek?

Can you tell him i think he is vastly overated and out of condition lol..

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35611613)

Right back on topic does anybody think we will have some OTT apps soon?.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35611613)

Right back on topic does anybody think we will have some OTT apps soon?.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35611615)

Does anyone think that with Cindy gone, we'll have a far better chance?

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611612)

Are you are?

I agree though, he does have a weight problem, and a green problem too :D

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35611616)

But if there was just the faintest whiff of netflix on the medium term horizon I'd be absolutely delighted..

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611578)

Better broadband? No. I have had Virgin, sky and BT.

Have had Sky too, it was worse for me

For gaming, Virgin places last. (sky 2nd, BT 1st)

Will take your word for that, I have not tried on-line gaming.

Never ever paid for a repair with Sky.

In which case you are very lucky. Do you pay a monthly fee for free repairs like my brother does?

I have a 2tb box, works fantastic..can't fill it (and not sure i would want to)

A well thought out response.:rolleyes: I notice it is trying to copy lots of TIVO features now though.

Hard to argue with TV anywhere, as the other two don't have that. So seems stupid for you to say. But we do have Sky Go. We do have On demand.

I mentioned more streaming channels on TV anywhere. So not really a stupid comment.

Picture quality is fantastic on all the HD channels.

As are VM's.

So please do go on..as you are scoring nil so far :D

I guess you have roundly trounced me with your remarks:rolleyes:. Don't let me stop you singing Sky's praises!!!

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611582)

Better STB - Only in some ways, Sky STB is better in other ways. Sky are improves improving there STB and surely will get better over time ;)
Better BB - Agree
No Dealings with BT - Doesnt bother me who i deal with
Free repairs - I agree
Better Customer Service - Disagree. Sky are now setting up a new Customer Service program and it is alot better, trust me ;) watch this space
TV Anywhere channels - I agree but at least we have Sports and Movies on the go via mobile and tablets unlike TV Anywhere
More Reliable PQ - Disagree as Sky is great and only small issues with weather, massive issues = installation fault
One Bill each month - Agian doesnt bother me

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611623)

I never sing sky praises...i merely say what works..for me.

It is you who seems to have some sky issues, misplaced loyalties

i am loyal to my wallet, not any company

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611625)

Cheers nstokes, a much more reasoned and mature reply. Although I note you are saying Sky are improving their Customer Service Program which leads me to think their service continued to be poor after I dealt with them.

Sky told me my installation and dish were correct, when I had awful picture issues. Perhaps I had a poor engineer come out to me. Not sure about the issues my parents have though.

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BIB As did I. You felt the need to question why I thought VM were better than Sky, and then took offence and responded rather childishly to my responses:rolleyes:.

If I have issues with Sky, why are my loyalties misplaced?????

I have stated many, many times that VM offer me the best package. Even if I was allowed a sky dish, VM would still offer the best package for me.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611625)

Cheers nstokes, a much more reasoned and mature reply. Although I note you are saying Sky are improving their Customer Service Program which leads me to think their service continued to be poor after I dealt with them.

Sky told me my installation and dish were correct, when I had awful picture issues. Perhaps I had a poor engineer come out to me. Not sure about the issues my parents have though.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35611641)

IF there is poor picture and sound quality, go to Sky One and check the signal.

I had this crap from Sky, and insisted that a different engineer came out to check it. He came and said that the signal was not aligned properly.

IF Sky sent a private contractor out, they will do anything to get a quick instal as they know they will get paid for the second visit which will take about five minutes to put right. The problem l had was disagnoed by a private contractor who called twice - it was only when l said it was under warranty that he fixed it properly.

Check the bubble on the LNB.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611637)

Personally i havnt had issues with Sky customer service but trust me it is being improved and rolled out. I will post more soon.

I cant explain your other issues as not had any issues with my dish or installation since my first install which was fixed and i got credit back as well

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611625)

Cheers nstokes, a much more reasoned and mature reply. Although I note you are saying Sky are improving their Customer Service Program which leads me to think their service continued to be poor after I dealt with them.

Sky told me my installation and dish were correct, when I had awful picture issues. Perhaps I had a poor engineer come out to me. Not sure about the issues my parents have though.

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35611651)

IMO, Sky was always the better offer, however we have 2 MultiRoom boxes and 2x£6.50 is better than 2x£11(I believe that's what it is after the increase).

Since VM now have BT, TV Anywhere, 120mb broadband, possibly Atlantic and SS 3/4/F1 HD, I would need sky to really show me something amazing to make me switch.

Until last week I saw Sky has the market leader, but I just think they are both on par at the moment (BT a little behind, but I think they will be better as a broadcaster than a platform provider)

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35611629)

Sorry, i responded to your inaccurate statement.

I never claim any provider is better. I merely qualify that it may be better for me.

You stated Virgin were better.

please keep up, it will save time.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35611670)

Thought I one on the wrong forum,isn't this a coming soon thread ? Not who is better than who.
Surely it's down to personal choice --
1.who gives you best value for money
2.what is available we're you live
3.what gives you the best for your personal needs ie broadband,TV or even phone

I have had products from all 3 (bt,sky and vm)
Personally if bt give it me for free I wouldn't have it
Sky hate the thought of the Murdoch's having any part of my money
Seriously thou at this current moment with price and what is available vm serve me best,should this change then the only option to me would be sky

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611637)

Personally i havnt had issues with Sky customer service but trust me it is being improved and rolled out. I will post more soon.

I cant explain your other issues as not had any issues with my dish or installation since my first install which was fixed and i got credit back as well

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35611652)

An individuals opinion unfortunately isn't representative , Ofcom have the latest customer satisfaction levels.

http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2012/12/04...ls-revealed-2/

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35611672)

I firmly believe Sky are improving their customer service, lets hope VM take notice and up their game too:)

Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35611708)

Evening all, hope you've all had a good day. Have I missed anything? :)

Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35611708)

Evening all, hope you've all had a good day. Have I missed anything? :)

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35611714)

Nope

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35611715)

Just a load of willy-waving