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We can be the last to get confirmation we are \ are not getting something that hasn't actually launched yet.

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:)

I think some are worried they won't be able to partake of the free HD offer before 1 August

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If VM get BT Sport I don't think that offer will apply to us....

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But will we get it in HD? Will we end up paying a premium price for it? If for instance we only find out in August then a lot of us are going to have to start rushing about changing providers.

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I agree, we should be told sooner rather than later what is happening about BT Sport - but then again we are talking about VirginMedia...

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Lads, don't panic...it is coming soon :D

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I read your post with the voice of Jonesy the butcher from Dads Army in my head... :LOL:

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lol..I was thinking more the voice of doom :)

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Yes the drama queens are at it again.:D

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As there was only two main TV package providers before, getting something second was also being last ;)

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You'll get told as soon as there is confirmed details about what is happening

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I admire what info you give on here and the VM forum but feel after the cock up with the weblink last weekend VM should announce sooner rather than later about BT Sport - unless it is date sensitive...

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They will announce it John when they are good and ready.

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http://store.virginmedia.com/digital...ls/sports.html

World class sports channels included with TV XL

Sky Sports 1HD and Sky Sports 2 HD?

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Surely that's a mistake as l cannot see that happening in all my time on this blessed earth.:nono::nono:

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Would be a good way to make up for the loss of ESPN and then VM can have BT Sports as a premium package.

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http://store.virginmedia.com/digital...ls/sports.html

When you click on 'see all sports channels' on this web page SS1&2HD are NOT listed there, they are only on the front page; sounds like another VM web page blunder...

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Indeed but surely there must be somebody who double checks these things.

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I don't think there is as web page blunders happen a lot with VM - another example is the 'we have got BT Sport' web page from last weekend...

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nudge nudge, wink wink..accidental page blunders

i believe it, honest..I believe it :D

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;)

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Maybe its to do with sky's deal with virgin over the fibre deal or a tactic by sky over bt mmm interesting if its true and maybe bt sport will go into VIP so this might atract more people to that package could be a very clever move by Virgin

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If it ain't a mistake then could be... but I bet the page changes during the day...

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Agree but with virgins new chief executive in waiting Tom Mockridge, the former News International chief executive maybe something has been arranged due to his previous history with Sky and Rupert Murdoch could mean SKY want to work more closly with virgin cause of the threat of BT

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No no my dear chap you only believe what your master tells you generally.:nono::nono::D:D

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If this is true and that is a big if then where are the doomsayers or revered fortune tellers now.;)

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We'll get told about 5 days after the channel starts broadcasting on the VM network, as per usual.

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That is what i want to hear...optimism :D

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It sounds more like another Victor has hatched.;):D

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Given as other company's customers know exactly what they are getting, when they are getting it and what they are paying for it.... I will be away at the beginning of August, maybe I need to get it sorted in the next few weeks, it's the constant uncertainty with VM that is pushing me away from them.

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Could there be a three way deal in which sky gets BT sports for example but in return gives VM the sky sports channels extremely cheaply? No idea of how the sports channels, deals and the way footy matches are split, so aware this could be a silly question :p:

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No, we will pay full whack for BT Sport and Sky Sports, which will most likely be £37.25 a month for both or £47.25 in HD. Both prices are beyond sickening.

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BT denies line rental hike is linked to new sports channel.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bt...l-8641140.html

The greedy hand feedeth.

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i had seen that rise when I was ordering my BT...but I got it at the lower price

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One of reasons why i am glad i didnt go to BT. Had a feeling this may happen. Good job im staying with Sky BB

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Yeah how dare they! Only VM are allowed 4 price rises in a year :rolleyes:

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No it was two the last time l counted and alas the others are just as bad.

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Two already this year, or last year?

I just don't recall you calling VM greedy when they increased the line rental much more than BTs rise http://m.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/f...price-increase

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A price rise is never nice and remember customers do have a choice at the end of the day if they are not happy.

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The price rise...is actually a decrease in the discount, if you pay in advance.

The mthly charge isn't changing, as far as I'm aware

And getting it cheaper by paying in advance, isn't offered by others

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VM do



http://store.virginmedia.com/phone/p...tal-saver.html

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cool..did not know

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All the big three offer line rental savings by paying in advance.

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Don't you have to wrangle with customer support on Sky for it?

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You have to phone I believe , last time I asked it was £119.40 equivalent to £9.95 a month , meaning VM and Sky both beat BT's line rental saver which according to Dens earlier link has increased to £141 a year.

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It's 120 with Virgin isn't it?

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<off topic> No wrangling just only available by calling Sky instead of online like everything else.

As muppetman said it's £119.40. Realistically I would it expect this to be going up on Sky soon too. Probably around September with the other price rises to do with the new sports (football) deal starting then.

It's been £119.40 for more than a year and survived the normal line rental going up in September 2012 (new customers) / December 2012 (existing customers).

<on topic> IMHO, without a BT sports deal and with better broadband (truly uncapped fibre) then Sky may be a bit more bullish and less concerned about Virgin in coming months.

BT have stated they see no need to "wholesale" their sports package so they will be looking for full retail value on this from Virgin.
So Virgin need to decide do they sell it with no profit, sell it at a loss to remain competitive or sell it at a premium to get a profit margin on it.

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Page has been fixed, was the usual VM blunder!

http://store.virginmedia.com/digital...ls/sports.html

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l thought it was too good to be true,

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What a surprise!! ;)

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BT Sport to reunite Danny Baker and Danny Kelly for football show.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...premier-league

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Nice to see them use (european feed) Eurosport HD & Eurosport 2 logos which we don't have anymore and the old Sky Box Office logo.

Saying that they're still using the British flag VM logo at the top and the even older VM one in the footer with the wrong copyright date, so they can't even get their own logo right.

Being OCD should be a job.

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Looks plausible to me. It is the date from which you are asserting copyright, so should be the date the page was first published. It is wrong to keep updating them.

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Surely though if they've just updated it twice (including replacing the best part of the content due to the removal of ESPN) that makes it incorrect?

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No. This explains it well

"What copyright date should I Use?
Well most web designers use the current date, which is just crazy. So you designed something in 2005, but your copyright date is this year "Ⓒ 2012 New World Designs"... which means it is copyrighted from this year only, so if your competition can show they had it last year, then they can say it is theirs? Can you imagine if Apple released the next iPhone saying it was copyright to this year... Samsung would have a party and claim everything was theirs."

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Top up TV to stop broadcasting Sports Channels.

An TuTV viewer has confirmed that:

-From July 1st Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 2 will no longer broadcast on Top Up TV / Freeview Channels 41 and 42.

-From midnight on July 31st ESPN will no longer broadcast on Top Up TV / Freeview Channel 34.

But Negotiations with BT are on-going.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...0#post66218800

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VM need to start being really careful when it comes to their website imo!
If they don't, they're going to have the ASA on their backs for false/misleading advertising!:rolleyes:

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l think you are bound to get mistakes here and there and one suspects the others are no better either.

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Probably, but announcing a carriage deal with Bt Sport and offering Sky Sports 1 + 2 hd for free in the xl pack are pretty big mistakes. Is it really possible that a company like Virgin Media can employ people who's knowledge of the matter is so poor that they could actually make mistakes like this without thinking to themselves "hang on, that can't be right" and checking it first?

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No mistakes would be the preferable option but maybe just maybe there is no smoke without fire Andy as they always say.:)

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They might do sports in HD free on XL (ie using the ESPN savings to cover the extra £7 charge) if customer takes Sports but they wouldn't include all Sky sports and 1&2 in HD within XL without losing a lot of money or increasing the cost considerably.

I would take this (if true) as a sign that BT sports on Virgin is going to cost £12 or £15 or more extra.

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Forever the optimist!:D

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Optimism brings you good things as Yoda says whilst pessimism is the path to the dark side so l am told by the wise ones of CF.:D

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Having registered interest with BT to see what they were doing with the sports. Just got a call from BT call centre and said I was seeing how things develop. They then said it would only be available on BT and sky, and she specifically said it wasn't available on virgins. Not sure if she said wasn't or wouldn't be available, but did single out virgin specifically.

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A BT spokesperson would say that they are trying to get customers to switch to them.

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Please remember that all providers will say things to attract the customers custom whether its true or not.

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They have said for a few weeks now that they are mainly using BT Sports to increase the Broadband and triple pay customers. IIRC there are quotes posted previously in this thread.

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We have now had a 3rd mistake - Universal HD advertised on the 'on demand' adverts in error...

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Mistakes happen, yes. But when they roll out 3 mistakes in near succession it makes them look like a shower of sh1te!

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That would be illegal.

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That would have to be proved.

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Its called 'commission' l would not trust any salesman on the phone, I was told many months ago BY A VM SALESMAN, that they did not have enough capacity to carry more channels.

Look what happening now. And that they would NOT introduce anymore HD channels as they would have to take off channels. BUT could offer me a better deal if l went with what he was suggesting.

Better TV, Better Phone Service and BB at a reduce rate. The conversation went on for about twenty minutes, until l said are you reading this off a card - he said Yes, it was a new sales gimmick by VM.

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Still illegal; plus any ISP worth their salt will record their calls. You can't just lie, the regulator would tear their heads off and ***** down their necks.

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Lol he just admitted to reading it off a card:sleep:

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Yes.

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We can only be told when negotiations are completed and when any agreement with BT allows Virgin Media to start. And of course, Stock Market rules means that as any agreement is likely to be considered as share price sensitive, the announcement will be made first to to the Stock Market, be it here or on Wall St. Like it or not, that is the legalities with publicly quoted companies, and that is the same here or the states.

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I think all virgin customers should refuse to take BT sport...that would teach them a lesson

Who is with me? :D

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That's if VM get BT Sport...

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Either way...I will get it :D

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Oh but they will my gloomy chap.:D

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I will get it as well

Actually I am the reverse of gloomy :beer:

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Ymoolg???:D

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Starting a bit earlier today then John.:beer::drunk:;)

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behave you naughty man Colin

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l think its time we held a after school detention class for the increasingly naughty servants that thy master sends out.:naughty::naughty:

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Nice guys finish last.

Unless it is santa, who is checking all who are naughty and nice.

Maybe virgin are going to allow you BT sport for xmas? :D

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still going from last night! :beer: ;)

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By heck you are blowing a lot of hot air this morning my old marra.:D

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BSkyB is to announce significant price cuts to its broadband packages in direct response to competition from BT Sport.

A statement will be issued early this week, according to sources, and will concern the company’s internet and television bundles. The announcement is said to be a “market changer” and in retaliation to BT’s new free-to-view sports TV. BT Sport, considered to be Sky’s first credible rival, is due to launch its three sports channels at the beginning of August in time for the first game of the Barclays Premier League. It will be available to all BT broadband customers and is the first time football fans have been able to watch the premiership free in more than 20 years. Peter Oliver, commercial director for BT Consumer, welcomed the cuts from its rival. “We think Sky customers are grossly overcharged and welcome any cuts they make to their package,” he said.

“Many sports fans have broadband through us and their TV through Sky. Our channels will be free for those households, so we’d be happy seeing their monthly bills reduced by Sky.” Currently Sky charges customers £617.50 a year for access to the full suite of sports channels. That price includes line rental and 2GB of broadband data downloads per month. The equivalent deal from BT is £261 a year to watch the sports channels via a laptop, or a further £110 a year for a set-top box. This includes a download allowance of 10GB a month. The price war has been predicted by analysts. At the time of BT Sport’s launch in May, Fitch Ratings said: “BT’s decision to give away its football content free to broadband subscribers changes the pricing dynamics of the industry and could force BSkyB to cut prices at a time when content costs are rising.”

Sky declined to comment on the pending announcement, but sought to stress that it would show three times as many Premier League games as BT Sport next season. A source said that Sky did not consider BT Sport a threat any more than it did failed offerings from Setanta Sports or ESPN. BT Sport has bought the rights to ESPN in the UK and will broadcast games from the FA Cup and the Europa League.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...rts-offer.html

Rumors suggest Sky's new prices will be as follows

Fibre Pro £22.50
Fibre Unlimited £12.50
ADSL Unlimited £0

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Must admit I'll be very happy indeed if my current SKY broadband becomes free.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/06/55.png

I get this speed 24/7, totally unlimited, no traffic management and all peer to peer software unaffected. Admittedly it's not the fastest connection available on the market, but if it becomes free with SKY Sports I'll be delighted.

So you'll have BT giving away BT sports with their broadband.
SKY giving away totally unlimited broadband with SKY Sports.
It'll be interesting to see what Virgin come out and offer. There is no way Virgin can stay quiet whilst BT and SKY are coming out with "game changing" deals for their customers.

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It's difficult for Virgin Media, they have to 'buy in' content. Their phone service is extremely overpriced.

What could they offer?

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Broadband without line rental?

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It's difficult to say really. Virgin had their game changer being ESPN for free to XL and VIP customers. This however comes to an end next month with no reduction in the price of XL and VIP expected.

Virgins lowest broadband speed is 30mb. Virgin charge £22.50 per month for this without a phone line or £14.50 with a phone line. The big problem is the 30mb connection has really tight usage restrictions. Would Virgin consider giving their 30mb broadband free to customers? Virgin could lower their broadband prices, or introduce a totally free lower speed service. For example give L, XL and VIP customers 10mb broadband totally free.

The broadband scene in the UK seems to be going through some major changes. Whilst Virgin are pushing high speed connections they come at a fairly high price with heavy restrictions. Other ISP's are offering incredibly cheap broadband or in the case of BT premium TV free with their internet packages.

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They have that already...just that it is almost as expensive with a phone

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Yes but that is stand alone. I mean offer the triple play package but remove or reduce the line rental cost or move to a package like tv, broadband and 2 mobile phones for x per month with out a land line.

Should be interesting over the next few months. In years gone by, the investor view was that content is king which put Sky in a strong position. The view is that the world is changing and that infrastructure is king, which weakens Sky's position as they hardly have any. BT seem to be getting themselves into a good position as they are getting into the content business and also own their infrastructure.

So the new guy at VM has his work cut out in deciding where VM heading I reckon.

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Just seen a report which says the Telegraph article is pure speculation and that its business as usual for BSKYB with some tactical promotional activity but no major revisions.

Could be a red herring though

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Very interesting. The Telegraph could end up with egg on their face. The story is being run by the likes of Reuters and Yahoo. Everyone running the story are quoting Telegraph as the source.

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Oh dear that will deflate a few forum members who thought they were onto a real bargain deal.

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It would need to be cheaper than it currently is, as combined broadband phone is virtually same price as broadband only.


Years back for about 3 years I used to have just broadband and TV from then Telewest, that was when not having the phone didn't bump the price of the other two services up. Was only when I moved I was then more or less forced to have a landline as couldn't keep my old package, had to take new one and was only a couple of quid difference whether had phone or not.

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Years ago, the cost of the line rental was included in the TV cost, so you paid it whether you wanted it or not i.e. the days of the 'free' phoneline.

The cost of the broadband was then an add on to the TV(+Phone) cost - so was the same whether you had the other two services or not.

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I was only paying £19 for the broadband and TV, was 12 month offer that they extended twice for me. If I wanted the phone line it was another £11 on top of that.

I was using VoIP via a Linksys PAP2 ATA, didn't want to pay an extra £11 when I could pay nothing per month for my Sipgate line and also at the time using Vyke, which back then was 2p per call again no monthly charge.

It was only later on in the Telewest area they altered it so there was very little in it if you had phone line or not. A few of us in the family went TV & broadband and then used VoIP.

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It has zero usage restrictions; you can download as much as you want.


After a certain amount of download, the speed you can download at is reduced, but you can still download as much as you want.

And even when speed caped, a VM 30meg meg connection is still faster than most Sky BB connections.