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The thought of HD channels on VM, would be something like ITVHD etc the channels that MOST people like to watch.
I might add that l am NOT going anywhere, my grump is that we have waited so long to get HD channels, you would have thought, we would have something decent. If constantly moan, then it is for a reason, And yes, l was sexpecting some Sky channels especially sport, and don't foget ESPN WILL be in HD. |
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Uncle Rupert.x Ps I may well have persuaded my mate dave to have scrapped ofcom by then. :D |
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Second bolded bit, you're clearly living in a dream world then. There is no way Sky will be letting their HD channels go any time soon, despite Ofcom ordering them to sell them on at a reasonable price, they're not happy to do so and are fighting it in any way they can. Given that the Sky channels would never appear in HD at this point, that doesn't leave many decent HD channels for VM to add, and the ones they've got are some of the best available. |
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no one said they wont have espn hd its in espn interest to have ther ehd channel on virgin, techically the espn channel itself is not been offically annouced ot launch on virign even tohugh we all know it will be now since it been assigned epg and said to be coming from rebrand of espn america. you forget espn hd isnt even on sky yet so give it to the begining of the seaosn of footbal if the espn hd is not htere then complain but as for the res toyu have the right to complain but i can not honestly get why there decent channels |
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Fact is Virgin have dragged their heels for so long now on HD that Sky now have an unassailable lead over them. 6 channels is obviously better than the 0.5 they have now, but they should be adding 20 or 30 of them, and getting EVERY new HD channel that launches on day one. They need to be agressive. The lack of any HD movie channels is obviously a huge omission too, as is the lack of any of Sky's content. Sky One for all it's brain dead, lowest common denominator tabloid sewage does ocassionally show some good US sourced drama, which must be seen in HD. |
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yea we all know its a bitch of a way to do things but thats buisness. the reason we are getting the 6 we are is because they are the longest running channels in HD and are most likely at the end of their exclusivity deal with Sky. we may find as more HD channels exclusivity deals expire we get more channels. but this is all down to VM and if they want to get into HD in a big way like Sky or if they want to just want to offer enough to tease people. |
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Hey as i posted in a earlier post saying that true blood was going to be shown on the
17th july at 10pm both in sd and hd , does anybody else think that it is strange that one of the test channels is fx hd . It may just be me |
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i swapped from sky hd to vm about a month ago and i do not miss sky one bit. I know that vm will get more and more hd channels at some point but the sd pictures are so much better on vm! they really are. But i would like national geo in hd.....
edit...i meant to say that the vod is just great, love it. Also the ablity to record 2 and watch 1. I sound like a vm sales rep |
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HD is still a niche market too and VM just don't have the financial muscle that Sky have to run HD at a loss for a few years to get the subscribers |
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Hey i have just seen this on broadcast now and wondered what the forum members thought ?
Pay-TV giant lands 200 hours of C4 content in deal that could pre-empt a C4-BBCW tie-up http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...003336.article |
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Setanta Sports UK fall out: Eurosport picks up GP2.
Eurosport has continued picking up rights formally held by Setanta Sports. This latest set of rights is the motor racing's GP2 series and the deal is for the remainder of this season and the two following seasons. GP2 is seen as the feeder category for Formula One and Eurosport will begin its coverage this weekend with the Nurenburg event in Germany. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...ge-rights.html |
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These things aren't nowhere near as simple as getting a few people in a board room and hashing out a deal in afternoon like some people think. |
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Setanta Sports UK fall out: UFC 100 UK channel named.
UFC 100 will air LIVE and FREE on Sky channel 433, the mixed martial arts promotion have confirmed. And viewers will be able to catch all the action from the biggest fight night of the year completely free of charge. Anyone without a Sky subscription need not worry as every punch, kick and submission will be shown on the UFC's official website. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...nel-named.html |
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From the beginning I've always put Discovery, History, Eurosport and Nat-Geo on my HD wish-list and if the reports are true it looks like we are going to get them, credit where its due if this comes off VM will have done a good job...at last.;) |
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its a shame we wont be able to watch UFC 100 :( Sky viewers get it but not virgin viewers:(
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im sorry to ask this but my wife and mother in law want to know is create and craft coming to virgin its just gone on freeveiw.
i think its got something to do with ideal world. sorry again |
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thanks for that she might stop asking me to ask now.
do you know when the fa rights for the charity shield and fa cup games will be announced as theres lest then a mounth left. thanks |
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Also I hear this year Charity Shield maybe sold to an broadcast as an oneoff to give the FA more time to sign an deal with an broadcast to show the thing that Setanta has the rights to. |
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18 months is not a reflection of the complexity but more a reflection of the board and management of the two companies concerned! |
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A business comes down to two sides agree terms which they feel best meet there business and will not make them go banklrupt (same some banks in the uk could not have done that insteads of being greedy) |
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I've been involved in tenders for defense contracts, and they were essentially quite simple, despite being for huge amounts. All that it came down to was how you were going to deliver what was required, how long it'd take you to do so, and how much it was going to cost. Throw in some fines for breaching the agreed limits on those and you've got yourself a contract. There's far more than just two parties involved in a carriage deals, there is the broadcaster (who want to pay as little as possible), the channel (who want to get as much as possible), the rights holders (who want more money if their programs are seen by more people and the channel are gaining more money for them), advertisers (who want their ad space as cheap as possible whilst the channel wants them to pay more for more viewers), and even other broadcasters (who could have terms in their contract requiring renegotiation and price matching if the channels appear on other platforms). It is in all likelyness a case of going back and forwards between all of them to come to an arrangement, and when everyone is only interested in protecting their bottom line then getting to an agreement that is right for everyone can take a LONG time. |
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Staff Patients Government General Public NIMBY's This had two parties to resolve a single issue of a contract It is simple yes we can do it at a price and terms that is acceptable to both sides no we can't do it at a price that is acceptable to both sides If the former was the case 12/18 months ago but now is possible due to change in circumstances then its not really an 18 month negotiation but a negotation which closed, parked for some time and re-opened by one of the parties. |
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Carriage deal ARE NOT just down to two parties, the deals are contingent on deals with many other parties as well, especially when it comes to VOD. |
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4 HD channels to launch on Virgin...
Living HD FX HD National Geographic HD MTVN HD Living HD to launch by end of month... info from digital spy http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...gin-media.html surely its not april 1st already :O! |
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Good Food HD is one to look forward to.:rolleyes:
Living HD might not be the first(ie end of month). The article refers to Living HD being the first from VM owned channels. |
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No Eurosport :( Can't tell you how dissapointed i am that this isn't one of them. A really stupid choice not to do this as sport is one of the best features of HD and for VM to say "We have Sport HD" would have been a big thing IMO.
and LOL that they can't even get Chnl4 HD or ITV HD, surley the easiest to get. Not great choices! |
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its now officially announced as a Virgin press release!! :D
http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...633&highlight= |
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Oh Nook, you do make me laugh. It seems everything NOT written by you needs a facepalm emote - get over yourself!
It took an AGE to get the 4 channels we're getting now, so where's your evidence of "more channels."???? I would have congratulated VM a few months ago for geting these but p 1ss up in a brewery spring to mind. Oh and P.s the only other "active" talk with other HD providers seems to be Good Food. |
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I have been told that the following HD Channels are now testing in an Ex-ntl area.
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Someone on Digital Spy made a good point.
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4 chAnnels announced and people still arn't happy. I bet that even if we had all the sky HD channels and were free to XL customers, people would stll complaint that they were not available to M customers.
We had 1 HD channel now soon we will have 5 this is fantastic news for people wanting HD |
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May I take time out to say the big thanks you to that Virgin Media Viewer who email me last week with the information about Virgin Media testing HD Channels.
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And something official to go with the DS post
Virgin Media brings new HD line-up to TV screens http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...633&highlight= Amazingly vague, doesn't name the first channel that will be launching or time scale for the others... have asked @virginmedia... |
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BUT people should feel free to voice their opinion about 1) The time it's taken and the half truths before we even got here. 2) The choice of HD VM so far 3) When we'll get the rest of it. 4) Cost etc People should be free to point out where VM are going wrong as well as going right without being labled as apologists or antagonists! |
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These are NOT the only HD channels coming to VM. The channels are free to XL customers and anyone else wanting them will need to upgrade to XL, as making them premium on L would make that package cost about the same as XL TV. |
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This is brilliant news. I can just see a rush of people ordering V+ boxes now, me being one of them haha.
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from a personal point of view I don't watch any of these channels althogh I think living does show CSI. Is that in front of or behind 5 ?
It is good news on the HD front and shows VM do actually want this on their network when they can sign deals. Hopefully this will be a sign of things moving in the right direction. Ok it isn't the ones I watch but i'm sure living gets higher viewers that some of the stuff i watch on Eurosport |
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If thats the best they can come up with for a launch of HD I would be embarrassed and would have kept quiet and sneaked them channels in when no one was watching, only Nat Geo is a channel you could say of quality and lets face it, I think we all have seen the content broadcast on that channel, as for Living, FX and MTV you can count the viewers for those channels on one hand as they are definite one program a week watchers, and the type of channel you give away for free in every packet of corn flakes, so nothing to shout about, and the wait really was not worth it. Surely its not that difficult to get the basic terrestrials of itv and channel 4 as they are watched by the majority of the country and would appease most virgin subscribers.
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I'm on the L TV package. So am I correct in assuming that I will need to fork out an extra £11.50 a month to get these channels? :shocked:
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These are hardly 'bad' chanells, it's better than nothing and it's a good start. Add to these the ones that are almost certain to appear shortly after (Eurosport HD, CH4 HD ITV HD etc.), it'll be a great lineup. So don't tell me to get over yourself, when I'm the one trying to talk sense into people who constantly moan and complain. |
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Have you checked to see what HD is available on VOD lately? Im sure there is more now. At least things are moving in the right direction at last with the new channels and also the new movies package for a fiver which has 21 out of 28 movies in hd. Ive dropped sky movies for that package as part of a review of our package and saved money in the process. |
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The only poor channel in that lineup is MTV, the others all have some good programs to offer, and with more HD channels on the way, it's in no way a bad selection.
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I don't think they're great - my perogative You think they are - your perogative. Where does it say we will be getting those channels you listed??? Unless you know something we don't (and won't say) your words are Pie in the Sky - until it's official we have no idea what's coming when... ineed at present we only know 1 channel's laiunch date! FYI i indeed moan about VM and HD but in MANY other posts i have said how great VM are as a company. I never thought we'd get the Sky HD channels and you're right IF an WHEN we get Eurosport HD Itv etc etc then yes i for one will be pretty happy with that line up. But given VM's HD record, If and WHEN is as long as a piece of string. |
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Told you that july was a very good rumour ;)
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BTW, any more news if VM are carrying ESPN yet.... i would have thought today would have been an ideal opportunity for some announcement. I don't mean HD version but SD version.
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Whether you think they're great or not (FYI, I hardly watch these channels), doesn't change the fact that many people do, and VM adding these channels in HD is a great first step. |
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My list has now been update - see post one.
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Thats what I hate about sky, they buy exclusive rights to series then when you think you can watch them they are then stuck on a pay per view, unfortuanately that is sky all over, money first , viewers 2nd, quality of programming 3rd.
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Do not regard either as quality channels i am afraid personal choice. Quality channels for me are national geographic,discovery and history. I also like sky arts programming. But as always whatever one person may like another may not.:tiptoe: |
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People need to step away and realise that if they like the channels or not is irrelevant, they are popular channels and that's all that matters. If VM were getting the worst possible channels in HD because they could get them easily and for nothing then sure, complain, but these are channels that will be watched by a decent number of people, so if you like them or not is irrelevant to the point that VM are heading in the right direction. |
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However I'd much rather watch pretty much any US series rather than the tripe that passes for good british programming these days. The likes of tourchwood and doctor who which are held as bastions of British television are abominations with some of the worst writing ever seen, 95% filler, 5% rushed ending that makes no sense. |
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I much prefer the knowledge based channels where there is indeed a good mix of british and american programmes to be had, looking forward to nat geographic HD, so i would agree with you nationalism should not come into it after all a good programme is a good programme regardless of nationality. The one exception to that was the american version of "fawlty towers" which was so pc it made your eyes water,and the comedy had been completely written out of it you may have seen it,if not i doubt it will ever re-surface on uk tv again.LOL:D |
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Just a quick thought re: FX HD
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I will say that good old fashioned classic british comedy is second to none. The likes of fawlty towers (can you think of any other show that would dare to have the opening title say "flowery ****s"?), dads army, allo allo, are you being served, open all hours... you just can't beat them. But sadly I doubt we'll ever reach those heights again as most of them would be ruled completely un-pc that I doubt they'd get away with most of the comedy in them. What seems to pass for comedy these days with things like the mighty boosh and the inbetweeners just doesn't compare, and definitely won't stand the test of time. That's what we need though, gold in HD! Personally I think the biggest benefit in these channels will be finally being able to watch FX in widescreen. |
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HD Channels on Virgin Media - UPDATE:
I have seen the following today: 1. Living HD will launch before 2010. 2. FX HD, Nat Geo HD, MTVNHD will launch on Virgin TV anytime before midAugust - rumoured to be starting July 30th. 3. Virgin WILL not start an HD pack - Channels will be on M, L or XL Packages. 4. Virgin are in with broadcasters about more HD Channels joining the network - some maybe will be only on Virgin Media. |
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