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Many people seem to think that Apple are launching an iphone 5. I don't want to dissapoint people, but I was told by Vodafone that it will just be an updated iphone 4 (iphone 4gs), and not an iphone 5.

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How eerie is this? In 1987, Apple made a video about a system that enables you to interact with your computer using voice and natural language. That video is (according the the calander visible in some shots) set in September 2011.

On October 4th, 2011, Apple announced Siri, a system that apparently enables you to interact with your phone using voice and natural language..

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/05/apple...the-iphone-4s/

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Erm...yes, the rest of the world were told that by Apple yesterday.

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I wouldnt know what Orange class as unlimited data to be honest. (I would guess 750MB)

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I wouldn't expect to see an iPhone 5 until June at the earliest, although I expect Apple are scratching their collective heads at the moment and wondering why there's a lot of: if not negative publicity, lets call it at least 'not positive' and that's a real first after a keynote session.

They are surely aware that technically, the specs of the 4s aren't really ground breaking and are certainly not cutting edge, although I concede the camera on it is up in the top 3 or 4 of any current camera phone. The opposition (mostly Android) are already pushing significantly higher specced offerings now, and who knows what will be available in another 8 months time.

Time for Apple catchup?

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Oh well :erm:

I should have posted that a couple of weeks ago when they told me, then I wouldn't feel so stupid now

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Agreed...I would have changed to an Android phone if I didn't have a stereo with an ipod docking station

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Nearly all android phone update over the air. No need for a pc or mac. The Samung Galaxy S2 is the best android phone out there. Even has built in divx player!

BBM is apparently coming to android and iOS soon.

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Really!!?? Stephen, may I have the link to where u got that info about bbm?

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Oh yeah I read about that ages ago somewhere else, just rememberXD lol

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The inevitable "Downfall Parody" has already appeared on YouTube. I won't link to it (& no one else should!) as it contains a lot of swearing.

It is rather funny though, as the Downfall videos generally are.

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Um apparently providing links to any website with swear words is not allowed on this forum?

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Actually, not apparently...

It may help if you read the Acceptable Use Policy

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Rip Steve jobs. Hope next years iPhone is better.

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Well...it's apparent to me...

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Has anyone released prices for the 4S in the UK? I'm due an upgrade with O2 and don't know whether to go for the 4S or the Galaxy S II on a years contract and wait for the next iPhone.

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Do you prefer open source or very cool paid apps?

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Will be the same as the iPhone 4 was.

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How do you know??? Thought the price hasn't been announced yet...

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I'l not touch a iPhone as other smartphone contracts will be cheaper, and you will get more mins/txt/data for you £'s

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Yup, most likely.

The SIM free unlocked prices are the same as for the iPhone 4 (e.g. £499 for 16GB), so I'd guess (hope) that the contract prices will be the same too.

Hopefully, it won't take the networks ages to release price info like it did with last year's farce. The pre-order date with Apple came and went, and we were still waiting and waiting and waiting for the networks to get round to telling us what they were going to charge.

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The iPhone 4S


Worse than last year:

Apple doesn't seem to be doing online reservations for collection in-store this year, just SIM free online pre-orders for delivery.


Better than last year:

Vodafone, T-Mobile, Orange and Three have all actually put price and tariff info on their websites, and started taking pre-orders. [When the 4 was announced last year, it was days *after* Apple's pre-orders and reservations went up before *any* of the networks announced any price or tariff info]


The same as last year:

O2 has done naff all. O2's site does at least mention the 4S, but just says it's out on the 14th, no tariff info or up-front prices are given yet. :rolleyes: LAME



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Looking at the tariffs and prices available so far, Three looks the best to me. e.g. 24 month contract for the 16GB 4S: Three (£35, 2000 mins) gives more minutes than T-Mobile/Orange (£35.75/£36, 600 mins) and Vodafone (£36, 600 mins), and truly unlimited data (rather than 500MB like the other three). T-Mobile/Orange look next best, due to having a lower up-front cost for the phone than Vodafone. OK, Vodafone is currently offering £59 back, which brings it down to £100 upfront compared to £99 upfront with Three or £99.99 upfront with T-Mobile/Orange, but only if you pre-order today...

Of course, although Three has the best tariffs, and the best 3G network, I've only ever heard bad things about its customer service, and I know various people who'd never use Three because of its rep.

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If it wasn't for the bad rep, I'd switch to Three.

As it is, I think I'll switch to Tesco... if it does similar prices/tariffs to last year. Tesco Mobile was very competitive last year for the iPhone 4, and offered 12 month contracts that weren't a joke.

My current 18 month O2 contract costs £35 per month (well, £35.something 'cos of the VAT change). 300 minutes, "unlimited" SMS, and 500MB data. The upfront cost of the 16GB iPhone 4 was £179.

IIRC, the equivalent 18 month Vodafone contract at the time for the 16GB iPhone 4 was pretty much identical... but 1GB of data and an upfront cost of £169.

I stayed with O2 due to inertia and also not being too bothered by the data. Easier to just stay put.

This year, the closest 18month contract with Vodafone, for a 16GB 4S, is £36 per month, with an upfront cost of £259, 300 minutes, "unlimited" SMS, and 500MB of data. To get a similar upfront cost as to last year, you have to either go up a tier to £41 per month, or sign up for 24 months instead of 18 months.

So, if Vodafone's offerings are worse than last year, I definitely expect O2's to be worse...

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Is there still gonna be the iPhone 4s released btw cuz of Steve jobs?:'(

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i Cart wait to get the iphone 4s. never had an iphone befor always wanted one tho. but have to wait till Jan till i can upgrade.

do you think ill have to pay some money up front for it or will i just do what i usually do and get a free upgrade?

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You'll have to pay money up front. You won't get an iPhone as a "free" upgrade unless you have a very high monthly tariff.

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O2 has finally put some information up!

http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/iphonetariffs/

Prices are similar to the rest, e.g.

- 24 month contract at £31 per month for 600 mins plus "unlimited" SMS, with a £6 per month 500MB Data Bolt On (O2 split the data off a while back) [£37 per month total]: 16GB 4S costs £99 up front.

- 18 month contract at £31 per month for 600 mins plus "unlimited" SMS, with a £6 per month 500MB Data Bolt On [£37 per month total]: 16GB 4S costs £169.99 up front.


Data Bolt Ons include the "Visual Voicemail" and also tethering (tethering used to be a separate thing).

Existing customers can also choose from a range of 12 month contracts.



So, if you compare:

e.g. a 24 month "~£35ish" contract, you get 600 minutes, "unlimited" SMS, and 500MB data from O2 for £37, Orange for £36, T-Mobile for £35.75, and Vodafone for £36. Upfront cost of a 16GB 4S with each is £99 for O2, £99.99 for Orange and T-Mobile, and £159 for Vodafone (who will give £59 back, but only if pre-ordered today, according to the site). With Three, it's £35 per month for 2000 minutes, 5000 SMS, and truly unlimited data, with an upfront cost of £99.

http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/iphonetariffs/
http://shop.orange.co.uk/newiphone
https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-...mobile-phones/
https://www.vodafone.co.uk/brands/ip...hone/index.htm
http://www.three.co.uk/Phones/Preorder

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thanks for that. I'm on network 3 and i pay 25 pounds a month for my tariff. i been with them must be around 10 years now

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Well if you want the JesusPhone 4S you best get saving at least £400 the device. Oh and got dont forget the prices come down the more months you sign up for. 24 months is obviously the cheapest.

And then in 9 months time the JesusPhone 5 will be out and you'll want that...

Why do you want an iPhone WWE?

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What phone have you got now??

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Does it matter why? because he does?

This isn't called a: 'question why people want their phone' thread.

Why are you calling it the JesusPhone

No I don't own an iPhone myself.

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I was curious as to what apps he wants to run...sorry to ask a question - I thought this was the iPhone thread... :rolleyes:

It's relevant and it's on topic - what's your point?


Slang term for iPhone...have you never heard it called that before?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...=Jesus%20Phone

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My point is, your usage of terms like JesusPhone was pretty negative as was the general tone. Especially as the guy already stated that he's wanted one for for ages.

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So I asked him what apps he wanted to run - what's your problem??!!

Pardon me for being intrested...


If he wanted a Blackberry and I called it a Crackberry would you still see that as a negative?

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Yes I would. It's a negative term :rolleyes:

[I don't own a Blackberry either]

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Well that's your opinion...

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Sorry! :) :angel:

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I'd never go back to an iPhone tariff. They are expensive and no where near as good value as a normal contract.

I'd only consider one if it was sim free. Even then am happy with my S2.

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A lot of networks now have generic smartphone tariffs which the iPhone falls into, instead you just pay more for the device. Next upgrade I may shell out for the unlocked phone and go sim only. One good thing about iPhones is they hold their value quite when you want to sell it on.

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So would the samsung galaxy s2, htc sensation, etc.:D

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I have the 3 all you can eat data and iPhone tariff.
What;s good about it is that it includes tethering.

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I never got caught tethering on tmobile:D

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Is there a page 117!?

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Is there a page 118?

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The Guardian's done some comparisons between the various networks and their different tariffs, and come up with some spreadsheets.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...?newsfeed=true

Conclusions?

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Well I presume these are personal accounts rather than business. I have a business account with Vodafone, which has 4x iphone 4's, a HTC, a Nokia, and two data cards, wth 3000 shared minutes, and a huge shared data/text package, as well as insurance on all of them. My bill varies between about £350 and £450 per month (depending on how many calls are made from overseas).

So looking at the graphs, I don't think I have a bad package.

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Anyone updated their Iphone4 and now cant get Facebook working? Mine freezes on the profile page.

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Try uninstalling and reinstalling it.

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It looks like many people are having this issue and the latest FB update seems to have only made it worse. Lets hope they sort it out soon.

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I've just checked Vodafone's website... the "£59 pre-order cashback" has ended...And miraculously the upfront costs of the phone have been reduced ;)

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/brands/ip...hone/index.htm

e.g.

- 24 month contract at £36 per month: 16GB 4S was £159 upfront - £59 pre-order cashback = £100. Now it is £99, the same as the other networks...

- 18 month contract at £36 per month: 16GB 4S was £259 - £59 pre-order cashback = £200. Now it is £169, again around the same as the others which do 18 month contracts (e.g. on the equivalent O2 tariff it's £169.99 upfront... Orange & T-Mobile don't seem to have 18 month info up, and Three only does 24 month contracts).

I think it's safe to assume that the Guardian used standard personal tariffs and prices.

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Trying to baffle customers into thinking they are getting a good deal, when they aren't, is something that most of the high street retail industry does on a daily basis. So I don't suppose we should expect any different from phone companies.

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Anyone know when iOS 5 is released in the UK?

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Usually around 6pm UK time...

Incidentally have you updated ituness to 10.5 or you won't be able to update your device.

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I updated to 10.5 last night, in ready for preparation :)

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If Apple's servers crash, does that mean there'll be an Apple and Blackberry crumble?

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Updating my iPad now.

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Updating my 3GS :)

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Trying to update my iphone 4 now... quite slow though

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My network connection failed on me once... Almost there though :)

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Finally completed downloading, now updating.

Should you or should you not upgrade to ios 5. 3GS users are recommended not to

http://gadgetbox.msnbc.msn.com/_news...ld-you-upgrade

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From another forum :
For me I'd save blobs with Tiny Umbrella and then downgrade if it's not usable.

Download speeds for IOS5 are torturous at the moment.

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I managed to download it but it won't update it comes up with an error (3200)

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I haven't even started yet! iTunes is currently downloading a variety of app updates...

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That happened to me. It ended up working on about the fifth attempt, so i would just keep on trying.

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I have tried about 10 times :( - maybe I should just wait 'till tomorrow

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Aghhh Taking ages.

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....and doing the same thing on my iPod too.

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Mine says it's a 4 hour download!!!!

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I have a 3GS and it seems to work fine.

I can't figure out how iMessage works though...

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My Facebook seems to have finally sorted itself out overnight. No idea how but all is working again. :)

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Aghhh the back up takes ages. I am not good with waiting, not good at all.

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Mine still says 4 hours remaining, but I've got to set off to the airport in 4 hours :shocked:

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I would advise against updating if your about to leave the country.

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why?

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Because if something goes wrong you won't have time to restore it all.

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Error 3200

error 3200

error 3200

error 3200

error 3200


agh!

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Im quite confused about iMessage too... it just says messages like before? :confused:

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IIRC, it's an integrated "smart" messaging app.

You write your message and send it as normal. If it's going to someone else with an iOS5 device, it goes via iMessage. If not, it goes via SMS.

Ta. I actually tried that earlier anyway - Shift-Update & browsing to the .ipsw file still gave the error. I've just tried again though, and done Shift-Restore instead of Shift-Update, and it appears to have updated...it's currently restoring my backup. Fingers crossed!

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Well this is strange. I can actually use the phone while it's restoring the apps etc. Makes a change from waiting for "SYNC IN PROGRESS" to go away.

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Thanks Matt.

One thing im confused about, in message settings, when imessage is activated, where it says "receives at" it has a different number there, not my number is that right, as in, is it the message centres number or is there a problem somewhere?

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So it won't play music / pod casts - it SAYS it's playing but there is no sound.

I think I'm going to do a frsh install.

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I've been on iOS5 since beta one and its a feature I love. It now syncs in the background so you can still use the phone. WiFi sync is also pretty cool.

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I think thats wrong, for me it has my phone number and email address.

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thanks for that. i switched off imessage and phone couple of times now my number is showing.

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Given the huge overlap in feature-set across different iOS devices, I propose we post discussion around iOS 5 and iCloud, regardless of which device(s) you use with them, in a new thread I've put up here:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/26...l#post35315546

:)

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iPhone4s speech aide is full of cheeky answers

PERSONAL assistant built into latest Apple phone can even tell users what meaning of life is - apparently, it's chocolate.

One woman told her phone "I love you", and got the response: "You hardly know me, Margaret."

And when a smitten buyer asked: "Will you marry me?", the software responded: "My End User Licencing Agreement does not cover marriage. My apologies."

Another groupie told the phone: "You're sexy." Siri responded: "I thought so."

my favo one is Another user asked: "Why am I here?". The system replied: "I don't know. Frankly, I''ve wondered that myself."
:D:D:D:D

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-question.html

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hi all ive just got the iphone 4s and siri is saying it can only find places in the u.s how do u change it to uk?

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Is the update working yet?
When I last tried to install it, it didn't work?

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Right, I've got an iphone running on 4.35 Jailbroken untethered.
it's got the old boot loader 3.5.2

to 'jailbreak' using Sn0wbreeze 2.8b8 on the IOS5, do I have to update to IOS5 through itunes first?

I've read the guide how to do it, and downloaded the 'restoreOS5.psw' which is 668MB. but not sure whether the phone has to already have IOS5 on it, or it does it with the downloaded one I have.

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That feature only works in the USA for the time being.

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Haaaa haaa Haaaa!!! Suckers!!!!!! :D

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With the iphone can u bk up all ur msgs and pics?

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Yes. Either with iTunes or you can let it back up to iCloud.

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Which update? iOS5? Yes, it's working. I installed it over a week ago, as did many others.

How did it "not work" for you? What have you tried?



You normally update first using iTunes when Jailbreaking, unless the phone is already up to date.

I've not used Sn0wbreeze myself, though, but this says the device needs to be on iOS5 first before you Jailbreak: http://www.redmondpie.com/jailbreak-...wbreeze-2.8b8/

There are also tutorials here for other JB methods:

http://www.iclarified.com/entries/in...scid=11&seid=2

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That's where I was reading, and it was this part that sounds a bit wrong.
it makes it sound like that's the IOS5 that you'll be putting on and that's where to get it.

You’ll need:

1. A supported device running iOS 5, which you can download for your iOS device from here.

do Apple actually do a seperate download so you don't have to download through itunes anyway?

Thanks.

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Yeah, you can download directly from Apple. The links there are all Apple.

The device itself needs iOS5 installed before Jailbreaking, plus you also need a copy of the firmware anyway for the actual Jailbreak.

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Does location services cost?

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So can I do the itunes 'shift + restore' thing first to install that IOS5 on the phone, and then run the process with sn0wbreeze after?

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It uses GPS and signal towers, so it shouldn't do.

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can you bluetooth your music from your old phone to the iphone?

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Yup. Install iOS5 first, then do whatever sn0wbreeze says to Jailbreak it.

No.

Bluetooth on the iPhone is restricted to things such as headsets and keyboards only - no file transfer.

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Just sync it with iTunes.

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Ok, thanks Matt.

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Yes, but I'm not sharing them :)

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That's not what the clinic posted on their web page.....

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Talking of clinics. has your problem cleared up yet?