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Very sad news, only just seen this news. A big shock. Don't like the characters his sons portray, but he raised them both well. RAW next week will be a tribute to him then, too late to do anything for SD as well.

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He did not look well on WWE TV some months back on the PPV (I forgot the name) with an match with Brother VS Brother.

RIP:(

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Just doesn't stop does it. R.I.P Dusty. Here's to one last play of that entrance theme too. One of the more memorable themes for me.

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Hogan and Punk have a nice exchange on Twitter then... Punk has some gob on him, going to be all the more fun to see him brutalized by any named fighter in UFC. More or less the same outcome as Lesnar and Batista had. When you go through a career that doesn't involve taking shots then you're not going to have a very good chin. Batista was rocked by every punch he took from a slow no named journeyman and quickly left the sport, Bobby Lashley had no stamina to fight at the pace expected of him and thus got his, Lesnar was given way past it fighters and the notoriously glass chinned Frank Mir whom managed to submit him once anyway, he was then destroyed by an up and coming Velasquez and lasted a mere 40 seconds to Overeem.

Punk will get the easy pickings, as soon as he steps in there with anyone that can punch then he'll ironically GTS.

Hogan just needs to go away, literally he just can't be out of the spotlight for five minutes, probably the reason his personal life is in tatters.

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Bit harsh, Ken shamrock put the sport on the map

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I've never been a fan of Hogan either, nor Flair. 2 old degenerates who need to step out of the limelight and realise that their BS politics in wrestling doesn't wash today.

Was quite sad to hear Renee Young on the kick off show last night in tears after the Dusty tribute video, shows how much Dusty meant to the current roster of WWE talent.

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Ken Shamrock was a Mixed Martial Artist turned WWE star though, not the other way round, he has everything it takes and had those skills from the get go. Neither of the above did and were rightly exposed in a legitimate fighting sport.

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To be fair wwf as was gave shamrock the platform to go into mma, it was virtually unknown until then. The big mistake Ken made was carrying on far to long, it was embarrassing for him and sad for everyone watching in the end, he should've been protected from himself.

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It still is. He wasn't the greatest MMA fighter anyway but now he's literally there to get his head caved in and get paid. It's nasty to watch a guy get knocked out fight after fight. He takes on the knobhead that is Kimbo Slice next... Don't even want to go into that.

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"Nature Boy" Buddy Landel passes away

http://www.wwe.com/inside/buddy-land...-away-27544553

RIP

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E! UK Have Announced That they will be Showing Total Divas Season 4 on Sunday 12th July 2015 at 6pm on E! 5 Days after America UK Virgin Media Channel 156.

Source: Digitalspy.co.uk

Also The New Series of Tough Enough is being shown on Youtube in the UK.

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Hogan is on another nosedive, guy just couldn't bow out at the top. A lot of current and upcoming fans are going to completely bypass his so called Legacy and see this wreck of a man instead.

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There's no coming back from this for him. We've seen the last of Hulk Hogan.

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Agreed, It's a real shame to see a bloke with such a massive Legacy in and outside of the ring just destroy all of it, whether you loved wrestling or loathed it, he was a household name worldwide, He put this business on the map. At the same time though it's very hard to have any sympathy at all.

Confirmed then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33657483

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You can always tell when WWE news is massive when it makes British news sites. I've never been a fan of Hogan anyway, I was always a Warrior and Savage fan. One thing that makes me laugh though is that his racist tirade is equally as heinous as killing your wife and son before killing yourself (because the removing all mention of him from the site and Network is what happened to Benoit).

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It's been coming though, the guy couldn't just leave it. His family has been in a downward spiral for years, His son pretty much killed somebody, His wife is away off. Had he stayed retired I'm sure the last one could've been salvaged.

Not a fan either, his crappy returns did absolutely nothing for me. Hulkamania can stay backstage.

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Isn't Brooke the only remotely normal person in that whole family?

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The guy that dropped him in it is Bubba the love sponge, a talentless little twerp whose own racist behaviour led to awesome kong's release from tna a few years back iirc

How's the stinger getting on anyway?

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Not seen Sting since WM, where he got screwed out of a win.

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I find it odd and a bit baffling that they sacked Hogan over racist words yet theres a video on youtube that shows The Ultimate Warrior who became a motovational speaker calling a student a queer and says queering doesnt make the world work and they not only inducted him into the hall of fame but also give him a legends deal contract after this was said and done.

RIP Roddy Piper
 

Wrestling Legend and Hall of famer Roddy Piper dead at 61 :(

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Heart attack apparently. And told last year he was in remission from cancer as well. Second big name to die in WWE over the last month. Wonder who the next one will be?

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On a sadder note Rowdy Roddy piper has sadly passed away aged 61 today. http://www.wwe.com/inside/rowdy-rodd...-away-27737907

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Rowdy Roddy Piper has passed away

http://www.wwe.com/inside/rowdy-rodd...-away-27737907

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So sad that he died so young.:(

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Legend has it during his final run with WWE when he won the tag titles with Ric Flair he had to undergo the normal in-ring performer's medical tests and that's when they discovered his cancer.

As such Piper always considered this to mean the fans gave him extra years to live. I genuinely believe he was a few waves short of a shipwreck but what a classy guy to say that. He truly loved and understood the business.

It'll be interesting to see on Raw how they pay tribute to him without mentioning Hogan considering their feuds in the 80s arguably made both men as big as they were. The first WM wouldn't have been the spectacle that it was.

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Very moving tribute for Rowdy Roddy Piper by WWE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBMTYUjuuMg

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Just watching Raw from last night, haters say whatever they like about Cena - and they may even be right - but that guy's charity work is incredible, there's never been a WWE star like him.

For the unaware he made his 500th Make-A-Wish appearance. He could have done 250 and be doing an awesome job so double that is just amazing. You can tell he genuinely is a good person and loves doing it. You can also see why he never wants to turn heel.

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The problem a lot of the fans, me included, have with Cena is not his fault. It's the way he gets beaten down for most of the match and then comes back and wins in 5 minutes and looks like he hardly broke a sweat doing it. I have never been able to fault his work ethic, charity work or commitment to the company. It is the stupid Superman gimmick that kills him for a lot of people.

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Think it's a bit hit and miss, he can put on an absolute epic if he's put with the right people, the matches against edge, especially the TLC match. Then you have your example which was prominent at Extreme Rules - Brock Lesnar's first official match back in WWE, i'd be inclined to blame Lesnar a bit though too, the guy was dire in that match, he looked like a log after 5 minutes and could barely move. I don't think Cena is the best at carrying a match alone, but again if you get the right guy with him he'll create an epic.

Punk and Edge were two of the best to get Cena looking great in the ring. Remember that piledriver? :D

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Kevin Owens has made Cena look really good.

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It's the same with a lot of people in WWE though. On their own, not that good. Put with the right person and there is a great match.

To be honest, I don't think that Edge & Christian, Hardy Boys and Dudley Boys would have had half the impact they did without the others to work with. No other team since then has managed to produce the same kind of chemistry as they did.

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The tag division back then was something else. It gave Edge a massive push and Jeff Hardy got one later on, albeit throwing it away with his career. Christian got pushed too but I think that's when we learned that main event stars in TNA wouldn't necessarily headline WWE PPV's all that we'll, Christian was a dud imo.

Last time I watched properly was probably the yes movement and the meteoric push Bryan got, both Punk and Bryan were a big loss imo. Never quite got the momentum coming back from the first injury.

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Yes Punk is a massive loss in WWE. I think they missed a trick WWE by not having him and Bryan teaming up together.

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WWE's problem with Punk was he never drew the 'right' money - ticket-buying fans who would go on to spend lots of merch money.

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Same with Bryan. If Vince doesn't get you or think you will be a draw, you get buried. Who knows how long Punk and Bryan could have carried the company for with a push, instead of half hearted ones. Fans still want Punk, just listen to the chants whenever they visit Chicago in particular but in general everywhere.

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Another issue WWE has with Punk AND Bryan is their size. Nothing says smaller guys can't get over but imagine it's the MTV music awards or something and presenting one award is 50 Cent and (for example) WWE champion Daniel Bryan.

You'd have the man considered the 'best' and toughest in all the WWE being dwarfed by a meaner-looking and bigger non-wrestler.

I'm not saying it's right but WWE needs their top guy looking like a superstar at all times. Both men may only be 6'1" but at least Cena is 250lbs (and looks 250lb), his physique has always been awesome and Rollins has that arrogant spoilt film star look about him.

Look at previous champions. Obviously Lesnar and the Rock speak for themselves. Orton and Del Rio were both 6'5" and around the same weight. In fact the last time there was a 'smaller' WWE champion main eventing PPVs was when Miz had the title and I always had the impression they put the belt on him due to how he carried himself as a media superstar, and why they later (and unsuccessfully) tried to pair him with Flair.

There was that time when Jeff Hardy won the title but of course Punk cashed in his MITB the same night.

As a business WWE has to follow the money and a wrestler being massively popular does not always equate to him making serious cash for them. Merch is what makes the most money for the company, just watch how they bring out a new Cena t-shirt every few months. Up until few years ago the number 2 guy for merch sales was Rey Mysterio, kids just loved him (even at local indy shows I worked at there'd be kids asking if he was on the show) but it was clear they only put the title on him that time as a tribute to Eddie, again the average man in the street was simply bigger than him.

In smaller promotions where merchandise sales aren't so high to the point where they do literally anything to keep that cash cow going they'll happily put their titles on the popular talented guys regardless of size as that keeps the marks coming back and buying more tickets but for WWE if you don't have "little Jimmy" wanting your latest t-shirt, baseball cap, drinks mug, action figure etc then you won't ever be Vince's pet project.

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Seth is not massive though. By that logic the belt should of been put on Roman or Brock at WM.

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McMahon sees it exactly how Russ has put it tbf, sad but true.

Bryan's crowd reactions were ridiculous, beating HHH and becoming world champion on the same night at Wrestlemania, the pop was immense. Punk against Cena had massive crowd reactions. I feel like we're once again stepping back to average crowds all in the favour of money. I honestly struggle to remember the last huge pop for someone considered a big guy besides The Rock. I'd love to see Kurt Angle back in WWE though. A lot of the younger generation and myself at one time failed to see what he brought until you realise he can put on a masterclass.

Used to think the same with Shelton Benjamin until I started noticing his matches were more exciting that the main event.

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Kurt Angle won't renew TNA contract, Says he won't be talking to WWE either, although I'd love to see him return to WWE and have no doubts he eventually will, it's a bit cheeky saying 'I won't be pursuing a deal' like WWE would touch him at the minute given his multiple arrests for drinking and supposed drug issues. Could re-sign Jeff Hardy at the same time and maybe they could both show up high and try to perform in a ladder match.

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Angle doesn't have anything Vince urgently wants. If he did join WWE at his age he'd more than likely get a part time deal based on the drawing power of his name only, similar to RVD's deal recently.

He's the wrong side of 50 and although he can still have a good match he wouldn't be able to keep it consistent so a full-time return is unlikely and on top of that after coming from TNA's light schedule I can't see him going back to working 250+ days especially after all his surgeries.

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Angle isn't 50, some years of it in fact

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Ah fair enough he's 46 - still though, not the age WWE usually likes to bring performers in on full-time contracts especially with a history of injuries.

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Anyone else been watching the Table For 3 shows on the network? New Day's was pretty good but the one with Ryback, Ziggler and Bryan was awful. The current one with Owens, Cesaro and Ambrose is good but having a confirmed heel chatting with 2 faces is diluting the business even further IMO. OK we all know behind the scenes faces and heels are usually good mates and there are few if any secrets left in the business but they're destroying what little illusions are left by having faces mix with a heel in public like this. OK granted Owens has loads of fans and is sometimes almost a 'tweener' but by and large he's marketed as a heel. Given his meteoric rise in such a short space of time together with having almost 2 decades of experience means he's obviously got good stories to tell but I feel it would have worked better if the show had been with him and say Wade Barrett (with his history of bar knuckle fighting and rising through the UK scene) or Cody Rhodes (family history) and perhaps Bray Wyatt unless they're saving him for another time.

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Do the wrestlers on WWE get paid per bout or if they win or are they on a salary?

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Salary based I'd assume, maybe some per appearance pay (Lesnar's supposed deal) definitely not per win as outcomes are pre-determined.

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What sort of salary do the top ones get and if the outcomes are pre-demined I would say they are fixed.

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It's not fixed, everyone knows that the company decide who is winning. The only say the fighters get is on the match itself. Salry wise, there were some leaked earlier this year.

Vince McMahon - $1,184,500 for 2014
Triple H - $1,550,000 for VP of live events and talent, plus in ring salary of $2,120,000 for 2014
The Rock - $3,500,000 plus 7% bonus for high merchandise sales
John Cena - $2,750,000 plus 7% high merchandise sales and a share of PPV revenue
Brock Lesnar - $2,000,000 plus 3.25% high merchandise sales, free travel and PPV revenue share
Undertaker - $2,250,000 plus 7% merchandise sales, travel & accomodation, PPV revenue share if a main event

Compare those selected few to the Divas though.

Nikki Bella - $112,500 plus first class travel
AJ - $104,300
Paige - $65,500

The full list of leaked salaries can be found here: http://www.totalsportek.com/money/ww...lers-salaries/

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Sounds a lot but when you take into account any pain and injuries they incur which seeing some of the moves the chance of severe injuries is high it is not high.

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I can imagine people like John cena make a fortune away from the ring too.

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I think that most sports personalities make a future away from their sport,
such as sponsorships etcetera.

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The ppv revenue percentage isn't to be sniffed at, it's no where near what is was what with hogan getting 1.75 million dollars for starcade in 1997 but it's still not to be sniffed at

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No more or less "fixed" than an episode of Eastenders.

They get a fixed salary, the beginners (in NXT) start at $100,000 PA but they pay their own travel and accomodation which deson't leave them with much. Some get a better percentage of merch sales, others get bonuses based on gate figures.

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It's meant to be fixed though, I don't see what the issue with this is anymore, No bigger con than being told Santa wasn't real, I got over it just as quick. Both superstars are told the outcome, they're also told to end it in a specific way if it's relevant, I.E interference, DQ or whatever they've come up with. The entire match is usually just improvised by the set of performers on the fly and that's that.

Thus you can't have win bonuses or performance bonuses akin to Boxing or MMA, one is a legitimate ranked competition sport whilst WWE is 'sports entertainment'

In fairness to WWE, the soap opera part of it can create absolute megastars, The Rock being the perfect example of this.

Just for reference, sometimes superstars are told the outcome and then Shawn Michaels, Vince Mcmahon and Triple H decide they don't like it, so they put you in a sharpshooter and make you lose anyway :D

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But that only happened because Vince was concerned Bret would do an Alundra and dump the (then) WWF title in the bin on a WCW show. Would Bret have dropped the belt to anyone but Shawn? We'll never know. But I think if it had been Taker he was to drop to Bret would have done it.

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That's not quite true. If more people attend a show because of one particular wrestler then often he'll get a percentage bonus.

There IS genuine competition in pro wrestling but not a sporting one. Each guy wants to be entertaining and the promoter pays attention to this. If during a match the heel is getting over but the face is getting zero reaction the chances are the good guy won't get booked again.

The booker/promoter puts the match together, it's up to both wrestlers to make it work.

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Unless your name happens to be John Cena and everyone apart from the kids boos him.

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Not quite either - he is getting some reaction, even if it's not the type that WWE wants.

The worst scenario is what we call "X-Pac heat". That's when the crowd doesn't care either way and you can't get them to cheer or boo. That virtually guarantees a booker won't use you again.

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Reminds me of that pretty bland WM match between Goldberg and Lesnar in which the majority of reaction was for Austin :rolleyes:

Shame too, I'd love another Goldberg WWE stint but the guy has little love left for the business, he's open for a return but it's always been on his terms.

Anyone follow the Austin podcasts? I just recently started taking notice, specifically the Lesnar one and how he made claims there was no one but him to beat the streak, something which I completely deny for different reasons to the ones he gave.

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I agree that there were more deserving people to break the streak. But Taker made it known to Vince the only person he'd let break the streak was Lesnar.

Personally, I have no problem with Cena. Only thing I have ever had against him is the damn stupid Superman rubbish, where he'd get beat down for the majority of a match then power up win and show no sign of the beating he took.

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I have read on the web that Lesnar and Cena is not set to be on WWE TV until mid December.

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Cena is of our screens for a bit for personal reasons, don't know about Lesnar don't care either he is just a part timer anyway who imo should never of broken takers streak that should of been Bray Wyatt and the torch passed.

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Bray Wyatt is just in WWE due to his Dad.

Roman Reigns should have broke takers streak.

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He's in WWE due to his hard work.

And have the crowd turn on him even more than they do now?

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Let's be honest, Daniel Bryan could have ended the streak and he'd be booed now. Whoever broke it was never going to be popular with the universe. I had an inkling Lesnar would end it, but I did think it was going to be an epic thing and Taker would retire with it in tact.

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DB would have been the wrong person to end it, no logic there at all. At least with Lesnar they're running with the 'beast' angle from it.

Yes Taker should have retired unbeaten at WM but if anyone was to end it it should have been a new guy and the only one I can think of right now who could come close to being the right person would be Braun Strowman. He's big and they're putting him over as a monster. As long as they kept pushing him as a top monster heel then it could have made sense.

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You could say Roman Reigns is in WWE due to who his cousin is.
Obviously that isn't the case but if you're suggesting Bray is in WWE because of his dad you are mistaken.
Bray Wyatt has been mis-handled by WWE he is a good hard worker very talented.
Look at how badly WWE treat the Ascension too one of the most exciting tag teams around on NXT and WWE treat them like crap when they move upto the main roster, other examples of hard good in ring workers being treated poorly by WWE Rusev, Cesaro, Wade Barret, Cody Rhodes the list goes on.
Reigns certainly deserves a title shot imo but imo the wyatt family are very interesting at the moment especially with their recent antics.
Ideally i would like to see a Reigns v Ambrose v Rollins triple threat for the title with Reigns winning, then further down the line Ambrose gets the title (i'm a huge Ambrose fan btw lol).
I would also like to see Rusev, Cesaro, the ascension treated much better in WWE.

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I think Taker will retire at this years Survivor Series, it ends where it all began, also this year is the 25th annerversary of The Undertaker.

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I have a bad feeling we will see a Rusev all over again with Strowman a unstoppable monster then superman Cena defeats him and he becomes a jobber.

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Hi do you know the tour dates for wwe next year?

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Not that I can see. Just seen that Seth Rollins is out with a nasty knee injury, apparently tore both the ACL and MCL, as well as the meniscus. Reckon he will be out for 6 to 9 months, a tournament will be held at Survivor Series for new champion. Roman Reigns the favourite to win it.

Got to give massive respect to Rollins, he injured it in a match against Kane in Dublin during a house show, and still finished the match. If that had been me, I'd have been like forget it I can't do anything.

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When WWE guys get injured in a match - especially the top guys - they have to be very smart about how they deal with it. Ending a match without a finish is likely to kill a spot at main event level. With someone as experienced as Kane they'll usually find a way to call an audible.

My prediction for the title: Reigns will take it obviously but WITH the help of the Authority (maybe he'll win clean but Shamus will cash in, be about to beat Reigns but HHH will interfere?) and given how he blew them off on Raw will give his (overdue) heel turn a bit more sting. His first title feud will be with Ambrose, Cesaro will likely be along too.

This will lead to Wrestlemania where as long he'll face the returning Rollins who will now be face.

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I'd love to see that, but I don't think Rollins will be back much before SummerSlam next year. But I think he will get an almighty pop when he does return.

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Brad Maddox released

http://www.wwe.com/inside/brad-maddox-released-28272321

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Only shock is it took this long to release him.

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Bill Goldberg would consider a WWE return if placed with either Lesnar or Austin and if the price was right. I think that buries that then :rolleyes:

He's someone I would genuinely start watching RAW again for. I can just never forget the way he could ragdoll any 300lber around like it was nothing. Although I've heard his mic skills and his ability to just rag anything around was half the reason WWE didn't seem that bothered in letting him walk away. Claims that he's dangerous to work with aren't rare to find. I don't think kicking Bret Hart's head off does him any justice. Hart was never sour about this though. If anything I swear he blamed a lot of people except Goldberg. He blamed those that sent Goldberg out there and told him to look like a machine or dominant rather than teaching him how to work in the ring.

With Goldberg though, not the greatest technical wrestler by any means, I see a pure athlete, someone capable of absolutely anything and is always in near perfect condition. Reminds me of the first Lesnar stint. Lesnar back then was another pure athlete that looked like the real deal and very much was.

He's another one of the 'Big guys' I think WWE is lacking. Lesnar is about part time but I already feel like Ryback all but failed, Reigns. Rollins, Ambrose and co just don't do it for me and that's why I've never watched RAW in a long time now, you can go back a while in this thread before you find me up to date on what's going on.

My ever growing love for MMA has probably played it's part in that but factor in just growing well out of a PG show with the loss of major stars, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan forever being injured or just falling down the pecking order, Dolph Ziggler's 5 minutes and so on.

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He's been out of the game for about a decade, he's close to 50 and although a massive draw he never was much of a worker. I think any active WWE return would be a disaster. He was pretty unsafe back in the day so I can't see many people wanting a match with him if he returned.

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RIP Jim Ross. Speechless.

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Edit: glad to say it looks to be a hoax...

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Hoax/ pretty dire joke.

Hacking a twitter account to tweet a death, some people really are that bored and sad.

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Do they not show WWE ppvs on sky sports no more don't think think I've seen 1 this year being adverts on there

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No just box office now, better off getting wwe network tbf.

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Yes, all moved to Box Office now. As theone says, better off paying £9.99 a month for Network.

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Great event so far from NXT Takeover london.

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Yes, a girl I know was there and was very vocal with her appreciation for NXT last night on Twitter.

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Missed this but AJ styles announced he is set to sign with WWE

If they try make something from him rather than bury him, I could be persuaded to start watching again :D

Kurt Angle will retire from TNA at the end of their UK tour. Love how he chose his words retiring from TNA rather than wrestling. A lot of people speculate a limited WWE return but this could be just a way to do some shows in Japan and so forth

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Web rumours say that A.J. Styles has signed an WWE Deal and may even appear on WWE TV this Sunday.

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Yes, I heard that as well. Whispers are that he will be in the Rumble match.

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And Hall of Famer Sunny has signed a deal with Vivid to make a porn movie. This comes on the heels of her putting the HoF ring up for sale on eBay. Vivid are believed to have paid at least $100,000 for her.

If this is deemed against the rules, then please delete this part of my post and I'll take any infraction owing for it.

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Wrestling today sucks so hard. I've had to go back to watching old wcw shows things have got so bad

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Daniel Bryan has announced his retirement from wresting and will make an official announcement on Raw tonight.

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Very disappointing news, but health always comes first. Apparently it is a concussion that has forced retirement, not the neck injury he had the other year. I imagine the pop tonight is going to freaking huge when the music hits. Hopefully not the last time we see him in a ring.

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...but WOW! The opening 10 minutes to Raw was the biggest "Holy ****" start in about 20 years that didn't involve Paul Heyman or The Rock. Seriously did not see that coming, very very smart piece of business.

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Hoping it means what I hope it means, because I want Hunter to be champion for a LONG time to come.

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Gave Raw a try last week, Too much to catch up on after a few years away from it now but I quickly discovered Titus O'Neil was suspended after a Live incident at D-bry's retirement. After watching it on youtube and hearing the story behind it... well it's nice to see WWE may be in a PG era but still manages to absolutely crap on talent at every conceivable opportunity. :td:

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All the more shocking when Titus is the number 2 guy behind Cena for charity events but word is WWE wanted to send a message of "we'll punish anyone if they step out of line".

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I still feel the need to tune in to WM though, there's no way Shane goes over Taker cleanly and it's also too much to have Taker just win and that be that. There's a turn coming somewhere in this match.

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I wish I could say I was looking forward to Mania. Sadly, I am losing interest in WWE once again. This part of the year always used to be the best for buildup, but this year it sucks. Sucks more than the most powerful vacuum cleaner.

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Anyone played the games lately? 15 and 16?

Also a proper topic, Reigns is toxic, if people thought John Cena being face for so long was dire then they need to watch the reactions to Reigns, I've never seen a face get so much of a negative reaction.

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I can't agree with that, it's true Reigns does get negative reactions but not as much as Cena. There have been plenty of shows where the crowd has been mainly pro-Reigns. Cena gets booed almost everywhere.

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Up until the week Triple H attacked Reigns, it was PPV crowds who dumped over Reigns, and the RAW crowds cheered him on. I really don't think Reigns is the new face of the business.

Sting forced to retire with the same injury that retired Edge.

Jacqueline takes the Divas spot in the HoF this year, joining the Freebirds and Big Boss Man in there.

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Sad but different for Sting. Still capable of holding up a match but was nearing the end of his legendary career. I feel Edge was still in his prime and had so much more to give.
Sucks for both either way. There's no justice. The original botchcara gets to wrestle albeit elsewhere and the great Khali lives on. I did understand where they were going with Khali at first as a monster heel but Cena dumped him off a crane and lo and behold, someone worse than Kane for being buried, even though Kane isn't a complete broom in the ring. It's not exactly uncommon. Umaga (Umanga as legend Regal puts it)

Although they were both buried by Cena funnily enough. Lesnar came back to be a monster heel but was pinned by Cena in his first match.

Anyway is Jericho off on tour again? Usually when he's putting someone over in a feud it means he's going to be away at the end of it. Pretty admirable guy when you consider the amount of new talent he's laid down for and put over.

Lastly, people are adamant there's a brand split coming. With that in mind, there's simply no way Shane goes over Taker cleanly. I'd die. So how does Shane win? They won't be bothered now that Taker has a loss already so I'm sure they're happy to have a dodgy ending. Anyone expecting a massive twist?

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I am but damned if I can see what it is. I wonder if Rollins will be back early from injury and cost Taker the match, or cost Shane the match and they have a match at the next PPV with the brand up for grabs.

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Former WWE DIVA Eve Torres Has Landed a Part in Supergirl The TV Series which airs on Sky 1 in The UK & CBS in America. Eve Torres Will be Playing a Villian Called Maxima in Supergirl.

Info from wwe.com

Its not The first time wwe superstars have appeared in other tv shows:

Last Year FORMER WWE CHAMPION EDGE GUEST ROLED IN THE FLASH & HE WAS a Series Regular on Canadian Drama Haven.

Who Remembers Mick Foley/Mankind Appearing in Boy Meets World.

WWE DIVA Alcia Fox Appeared in an Episode of Dominion back in Summer 2015 Last Year.

Booker T Played a Baddie in Charmed back in the late 90's and Ass Man Billy Gunn Wrestled Melissa Joan Hart in Sabrina The Teenage Witch back in 1999.