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GrimUpNorth 17-04-2026 08:22

Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36214019)
I can't see him resigning and I doubt his unpopularity can increase much anyway. ;)

He does seem stuck between a rock and a hard place on this though.


https://www.ft.com/content/c49c3c31-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

The decent thing to do would be resign, but I feel at best all we can expect is for him to convene a meeting. It's all he ever seems to do, but I suppose when your out of ideas and options what else have you got left?

nomadking 17-04-2026 08:30

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Be interesting to know what it was that led to Mandelson's failing of security vetting.

TheDaddy 17-04-2026 09:32

Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36214019)
I can't see him resigning and I doubt his unpopularity can increase much anyway. ;)

He does seem stuck between a rock and a hard place on this though.

He should've told the truth and added he thought having one of epstein's chums as ambassador would help British interests with trumps america

Sephiroth 17-04-2026 09:37

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I like seeing the sod squirm. One question though: Did Olly Robbins know that the mandelson vetting had failed? Point being if he didn’t know, but as head of the FO service, Robbins fell on his sword, tghen Starmer should do the same.

Kemi also needs to ask what instructions the FO has received from No. 10 in respect of gwetting Mandelson through the process. Obviously, Starmer can’t wriggle out of that.



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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36214025)
Be interesting to know what it was that led to Mandelson's failing of security vetting.

Pillow talk risk?

OLD BOY 18-04-2026 11:53

Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36214035)
I like seeing the sod squirm. One question though: Did Olly Robbins know that the mandelson vetting had failed? Point being if he didn’t know, but as head of the FO service, Robbins fell on his sword, tghen Starmer should do the same.

Kemi also needs to ask what instructions the FO has received from No. 10 in respect of gwetting Mandelson through the process. Obviously, Starmer can’t wriggle out of that.



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Pillow talk risk?

Starmer can wriggle out of any question by answering another question that nobody asked.

I really don’t know how there can be so much confusion over this. Who was the outcome of the security check passed to? What did they do with that information and who made the decision to ignore it? Whoever that was, I’m sure they will be able to tell us if the PM was informed, and if not, why not?

The fact that they still haven’t got to the bottom of this does indicate to me that something’s being covered up.

Sirius 18-04-2026 12:03

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36214082)
Starmer can wriggle out of any question by answering another question that nobody asked.

I really don’t know how there can be so much confusion over this. Who was the outcome of the security check passed to? What did they do with that information and who made the decision to ignore it? Whoever that was, I’m sure they will be able to tell us if the PM was informed, and if not, why not?

The fact that they still haven’t got to the bottom of this does indicate to me that something’s being covered up.

All it will take is a disgruntled person close to the coal face to leak a memo or email. Then it will all be over for what is in my opinium the worst prime minister this country has had the misfortune to have voted in. I will say it as i see it "he is a treacherous two faced lying piece of excreta" :)

papa smurf 18-04-2026 14:12

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36214085)
All it will take is a disgruntled person close to the coal face to leak a memo or email. Then it will all be over for what is in my opinium the worst prime minister this country has had the misfortune to have voted in. I will say it as i see it "he is a treacherous two faced lying piece of excreta" :)

:clap::clap::clap:

Sirius 18-04-2026 15:26

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36214091)
:clap::clap::clap:

Why thank you Papa :)

Paul 18-04-2026 22:31

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A quote (about Starmer) I saw in a BBC article tonight made me smile.

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It's not possible to put any more nails in his coffin without it being made of nails.

1andrew1 19-04-2026 09:51

Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36214025)
Be interesting to know what it was that led to Mandelson's failing of security vetting.

The Sunday Times says it was his foreign links. The consultancy company which Mandelson founded and still had shares in had its largest client as a Chinese company linked by some to the Chinese army, but the links were denied by the company itself.

Itshim 19-04-2026 10:00

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My dad used to say a lawyer is a fool that can read and remember what they have read. They have no plan if it is not in a book .They can't think for them selves. Never employ them for anything but defending you. Yet we have made him our leader , just look at the mess that has brought on us.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36214131)
The Sunday Times says it was his foreign links. The consultancy company which Mandelson founded and still had shares in had its largest client as a Chinese company linked by some to the Chinese army, but the links were denied by the company itself.

The question is given the known facts about him . Why on earth select him in the first place. What was Starmer thinking....... I have my own idea but clearly l could not publish them.

1andrew1 19-04-2026 21:11

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36214132)
The question is given the known facts about him . Why on earth select him in the first place. What was Starmer thinking....... I have my own idea but clearly l could not publish them.

The known facts being his previous association with Epstein which should have ruled him out in most people's calculations.

So there's been a ruthless calculation done between the benefits to the government of someone felt able to get on well with the Trump regime and the downside of his Epstein associations.

But how you can appoint someone who's failed civil service vetting seems bizarre. Let's see what the coming week unveils; I'm sure some will be relieved that Trump and the Iranian situation are hogging a lot of the headlines.

Sephiroth 19-04-2026 21:23

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36214174)
The known facts being his previous association with Epstein which should have ruled him out in most people's calculations.

So there's been a ruthless calculation done between the benefits to the government of someone felt able to get on well with the Trump regime and the downside of his Epstein associations.

But how you can appoint someone who's failed civil service vetting seems bizarre. Let's see what the coming week unveils; I'm sure some will be relieved that Trump and the Iranian situation are hogging a lot of the headlines.


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So there's been a ruthless calculation done between the benefits to the government of someone felt able to get on well with the Trump regime and the downside of his Epstein associations.
Yes - I agree. Rogues alike.



Dingbat 19-04-2026 21:31

Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36214174)

But how you can appoint someone who's failed civil service vetting seems bizarre. Let's see what the coming week unveils; I'm sure some will be relieved that Trump and the Iranian situation are hogging a lot of the headlines.

Seemed to work well enough for Boris Johnson when he apparently failed vetting but was still made Foreign Secretary by Theresa May.

Hugh 19-04-2026 21:37

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Personally, I’d have taken that more as a warning than a precedent…


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