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ianch99 07-06-2022 17:15

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36124659)
Dear Lord, you cannot imagine the scale of the enormity of the toss (polite version) that I couldn't give about that.

Yes but most normal people care about their Prime Minister being truthful. You don't, I get it, but most do.

daveeb 07-06-2022 17:45

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36124661)
Yes but most normal people care about their Prime Minister being truthful. You don't, I get it, but most do.

Maybe he's just being an incredibly brave boy and wants to understate the whole illness. I'm sure he's not the type to exaggerate to gain sympathy or a political advantage. :rolleyes:

Itshim 07-06-2022 17:54

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36124661)
Yes but most normal people care about their Prime Minister being truthful. You don't, I get it, but most do.

Just like Blair he never lied did he:confused:

Hugh 07-06-2022 18:14

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36124665)
Just like Blair he never lied did he:confused:

About nearly dying - no, he didn’t…

papa smurf 07-06-2022 18:24

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
:shocked: Defending Bliar now

daveeb 07-06-2022 18:56

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36124668)
:shocked: Defending Bliar now

Why so shocked, lying is the PM's default position these days. Blair couldn't lay a finger on him in comparison.

Pierre 07-06-2022 19:28

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36124666)
About nearly dying - no, he didn’t…

You can say what you want about Johnson, and be right. But whatever he may or may not have done is nowhere near the blood that Blair has on his hands through lies, never mind about misleading Parliament.

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36124669)
Why so shocked, lying is the PM's default position these days. Blair couldn't lay a finger on him in comparison.

Cake or War?

OLD BOY 07-06-2022 19:55

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36124625)
I know, but quite a few announced publicly how they voted…

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Righty bloviating…

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I see you got the Whips’ WhatsApp message, then… ;)

However, in the real world, 117 voted against May, and 148 against Johnson, so if you’re playing the percentages game, 26.5% more Tory MPs voted against Johnson…

It doesn't matter a hang. If Johnson carries on regardless and achieves his manifesto, who in the Parliamentary party will be speaking against him then? Only the usual suspects (mainly remainers).

Mr K 07-06-2022 20:12

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124673)
It doesn't matter a hang. If Johnson carries on regardless and achieves his manifesto, who in the Parliamentary party will be speaking against him then? Only the usual suspects (mainly remainers).

Was his manifesto - inflation and fuel prices out of control, the NHS in shreds, immigration massively high, taxes massively high , national debt at record highs, empty shop shelves, strikes, lack of people prepared to work at min wage rates and a cost of living crisis? If so, carry on , he's a shoe in....
( and votes against have come from all parts of his divided party. The 'usual suspects' are most of his backbenchers - they are Turkeys and they see Xmas coming...)

Maggy 07-06-2022 20:16

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
After all we don't know what Tory MPs have been told by their constituents about the situation.It's their base support they will be listening to.

Paul 07-06-2022 20:24

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36124674)
Was his manifesto - inflation and fuel prices out of control, the NHS in shreds, immigration massively high, taxes massively high , national debt at record highs, empty shop shelves, strikes, lack of people prepared to work at min wage rates and a cost of living crisis?

That sounds like standard Labour policy. ;)

Mr K 07-06-2022 20:32

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36124677)
That sounds like standard Labour policy. ;)

Exactly ! but theres no vacancy for Labour leader atm.;)
Tbh wouldn't put it past him to change parties if it meant keeping the party pad and that lovely wallpaper....

Hugh 07-06-2022 21:04

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36124668)
:shocked: Defending Bliar now

Making crap up now :shocked:

Stating a fact about someone (I personally think Blair’s a dick) isn’t "defending" them - otherwise, if I stated you seem to spend most of your time on this forum trolling, that would be me "defending" you…

Sephiroth 07-06-2022 21:57

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124673)
It doesn't matter a hang. If Johnson carries on regardless and achieves his manifesto, who in the Parliamentary party will be speaking against him then? Only the usual suspects (mainly remainers).

He's already trashed the manifesto.

OLD BOY 07-06-2022 22:54

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36124674)
Was his manifesto - inflation and fuel prices out of control, the NHS in shreds, immigration massively high, taxes massively high , national debt at record highs, empty shop shelves, strikes, lack of people prepared to work at min wage rates and a cost of living crisis? If so, carry on , he's a shoe in....
( and votes against have come from all parts of his divided party. The 'usual suspects' are most of his backbenchers - they are Turkeys and they see Xmas coming...)

Have you forgotten about Covid and Ukraine already? Yours are pretty crass examples. Neither Covid nor the war were foreseen, and they had to be paid for.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36124678)

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Originally Posted by Paul View Post
That sounds like standard Labour policy.


Exactly ! but theres no vacancy for Labour leader atm.;)
Tbh wouldn't put it past him to change parties if it meant keeping the party pad and that lovely wallpaper....

Ah right. So you are criticising Boris now for the furlough scheme and all the other support he put into fighting the disease, and you think that’s what Labour would have done. And do you agree with supporting Ukraine?

If so, why are you criticising him?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36124684)
He's already trashed the manifesto.

It’s delayed, not trashed, for the reasons above.


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