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I can’t wait to hear how Brexit’s to blame for this.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1633099313

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This one is due to a strike at Kuehne+Nagel which is hitting the Carrefour supply chain in Belgium so no, definitely not due to Brexit.

Link - https://www.retaildetail.eu/en/news/...bution-centres

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I have not seen any shortage of anything in my supermarket, all shelves look stocked - the only shortage is fuel and that is down to panic buying and stupidity.

What Brexit has highlighted is that is was a massive mistake to ever join a corrupted EU or the EEA as it was known initially, we came too reliant on foreigners to do the jobs, us British citizens should be doing, driving down wages, not making the job conditions adequate enough - Businesses looking to cut costs by having cheap Labour. HGV crisis began way before Brexit and not just in the UK.

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Ah the British food section is empty -bloody brexit.:)

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I've seen shortages of items I used to buy.

I don't really know or care if it's Brexit. At this point even if it was the blame would lie on the Government for not preparing. I am just saying there are shortages.

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Why should we be doing them? Especially as there isn't even enough of us to fill the vacancies but other than that why should we be doing those jobs

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Well, in quite a few countries it would mean you and your family didn't starve to death, however things are more give grab and take here ;)

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It's not true though, we had as close as is healthy to 100% employment, if there isn't the churn of say 500k looking for and getting new jobs the economy stagnates and whilst there is 100k of so who are literally a waste of space and unemployable they're not going to fill the gap anyway so why should we have to be taking these jobs, I liked the fact we aimed higher and set higher aspirations for our children, you're happy in the slaughter house good luck to you but most wouldn't be and still won't fill those jobs so guess what, those jobs won't be there anymore and neither will the business that offered them

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Spot on there, too many lazy sods sitting on their arses being supported by benefits.

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Yes, in a way I see your point . . . isn't this where automation plays its part, or aren't those jobs worth the money required to automate them?

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Er, because these are jobs British people are capable of doing. They should not have been done by Europeans, they should always have been done by our own people. That’s one of the main complaints Brexiteers were making. Europeans were undercutting us - driving down wages and taking their jobs.

This should all rectify itself once people emerge from the testing and training process, which was suspended during Covid and has only recently re-started. This will take some weeks to start turning things around.

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There were plenty of people languishing on benefits pre-Covid. We should only pay benefits to those who are genuinely unable to work.

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Agreed that automation definitely has its part to play but a lot of these jobs can't be automated.

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Wow, this is the exact reason why remoaners say things like leavers don't know what they're talking about, what testing and training are required to pick an apple of a tree or carry a carcass and they were saying it about bricklaying and tradesmen jobs rather than the fruit farm or abattoirs, warehouses had sorted themselves out by the time of the vote in my experience


Not enough to fill the vacancies there weren't and why are we filling them with the dregs and workshy and guess what there still aren't enough so those perfectly good businesses will eventually close just because they can't get anyone to work in them

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Wouldn't have thought all of them can accommodate automation, some of the low level crop stuff might survive I guess

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So . . the current state of affairs is thus:

We have nobody that can kill & process animals from farms.
We have nobody to pick & process vegetables from fields.
The few places that can accomplish the above, can't move the finished product due to no HGV drivers.
Product that does miraculously reach a supermarket cannot be home delivered due to a shortage of fuel.
If people do eventually get food home, they then find the gas/electricity cost of cooking a meal is far too expensive.

all the fault of Brexit apparently :shrug:

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… and yet if you actually go out to a supermarket you’ll find fruit and meat on the shelves and fuel in the forecourt. It’s almost as if a few localised problems are being blown up into apparent crises to serve some agenda or other. I can’t imagine what that would be.