Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35601896)

Yes if they accepted 1 deal for 1 channel which is a small drop in the ocean for the billions and billions they juggle it would put them out of business. do me a favour. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gunslinger (Post 35601898)

I must say I don't really buy this 'deal done, but no announcement, so more people switch to BT' line.

Why would VM go along with something that encourages customers to leave, even in the short term? Would a collusive agreement like that (to actively mislead customers) be legal under competition and/or consumer law?

And how would customers react if, having been told by BT the channels won't be on Virgin, they switch to BT on Wednesday only to find them popping up on VM on Thursday? I know all the telcos have been told off by the ASA at one time or another, but that is surely pushing the limits...

I suspect each side is holding out till the last minute for the 'best' commercial deal; at the end of the day VM 'need' BT Sports to keep customers happy, and BT 'need' the income to offset some of the costs of the rights they have purchased. Otherwise, it is a very, very, very expensive way for BT to promote their broadband service.

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35601899)

Remind me never to go into business with you!! :D

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35601880)

Said all that over a week ago,but they really are vain to expect customer to be happy to see a big selling point for xl to disappear and either a price decrease or something adequate to replace

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35601899)

Remind me never to go into business with you!! :D

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35601904)

It was only a bonus and we do not know yet there is nothing to replace it.

There will NOT be a price decrease it simply won't happen.

Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35601903)

I think we have established you want the channel. You do however seem to fail to understand that they will not be held to ransom for the best price.

They refused to pay over the odds for the Sky Basics, and so the channels disappeared.

The world did not stop revolving because of it. True they probably lost some customers, and my missus lost her beloved 24, but ..... I believe Sky needed Virgin more than Virgin needed Sky, and I honestly believe it will be the same with BT.

None of us know what the delay is, or what the reasons are, but I am sure Virgin will deliver the goods eventually, but at a price they can afford.

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35601906)

yes that's right ignore my post and crack a joke to change the subject :)

This isn't some **** pot company we're talking about, this is Virgin with a turnover of billions and billions a deal with BT Sport can be done if they want to. depends how greedy they are at the end of the day. they will be under orders to try and get the best deal i understand that. it's their job. but come launch I would expect they just swallow their pride and get the deal done by hook or by crook. otherwise they are clearly crap and deserve to lose their customers.

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35601909)

people who see live premier league games the same as an episode of 24.

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35601911)

Fair point. :)

It's not Virgin, It's Virgin Media. All the different "Virgins" are different companies.

If VM where to buy BT Sport at a silly price and bundle it with XL they could be out of business within the year. If they buy it at a silly price and then charge the customer that price people would rightly point at the Sky deal and complain.

They just can't spend silly money on it, no mater what.