Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

You are not as sick as the ones who want to stay in the U K Sirius, We have to put up with it again, Time she was out,

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Give them a referendum but only after we have left the EU.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

I personally will be voting NO again and I'm quite sure so will the majority. I'm sick of hearing and reading let them go and can we let Wales, England and Northern Ireland have a vote. I do wonder does it ever cross the minds of the people who write such comments that many Scots do not want this!

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

At the moment the polls are saying 50/50 in Scotland to leave the UK so this issue is as divisive as Brexit. Many Scots do not want to leave the UK and many do want to leave the UK.
Time will tell, but the SNP are like Ukip - they will keep on trying until the vote goes the way they want it to, so I can understand people who are keen to see Scotland leave so the issue is not raised again in a few years' time!

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

One poll has said 50/50 Andrew. Once in a blue moon a poll comes along that makes it look like the separatists are ahead. Such polls are remarkable for their rarity.

Even on Sturgeon's timing there are at least 18 months before a referendum, and in fact I don't think she's going to get the keys to the constitution before 2020 at the earliest. A lot can change.

What I'd love to see is May legislating for authority to be passed to Holyrood for a period beginning in November 2021 and ending in 2025. That means it's the next parliament that gets to hold a referendum, and it gives the Scottish electorate a very clear message: vote SNP in 2021, get referendum. Vote anyone else, referendum is dead.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

A vote on what, Scotland leaving? Obviously not but we could include a vote for us on other things that'd settle a few minds north of the border like reform of the Barnett formula and the removal of navy docks and ship building

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Weenie such calls for a vote are not because of a dislike or anything negative towards scots as a people but this issue just won't go away even when the snp say it's a once in a generation thing. Repeated independence referendums create issue's for the entire UK not least because independence would severely affect the structure of the UK. I know the majority of scots don't want another vote but on the flip side a lot of scots voted for the snp whose only purpose is independence so it sends a bit of a mixed signal and it's not as though they are voting for the snp on their stellar handling of the usual services and such.

The last campaign was highly damaging both for the people of scotland and the image of scotland and now wanting to do it all again so soon is going to provoke negative views and opinions.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

I think most people in the UK including Scotland don't want another referendum on anything for some time!

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Scottish politics is a bit more nuanced than you're suggesting, Rizz. The SNP has been very good at making itself look like a centre left social democratic party and the natural alternative to Labour in Scotland. At the last Scottish elections they spent a good deal of time saying "what referendum?" and accusing Labour, Tories and the rest of being obsessed with the subject. There are therefore a significant number of people who voted SNP in the last Scottish elections, and indeed the last UK elections, who don't support independence and believed that in voting SNP, normally as an alternative to voting Labour, they were not voting for a referendum.

Fewer of them are likely to make the same mistake next time.

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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

It's not really a big surprise they are calling for one. It is their purpose after all and they explicitly said in their manifesto they may call for one if we left the EU but at the time most people expected a Remain vote. The question of Independence did loom over the Brexit vote as well.

The question I have is who'll lead the Unionist campaign in Scotland? Labour is nowhere and the Government is both unpopular and preoccupied. A cross-party campaign is not on the table this time and there is no existing group from which to draw from. The Yes campaign are still lying in wait, they all went into other pro-Independence groups, the No campaign packed up and went home.

The confidence I've seen from some politicians that the economic case for Independence is so weak that they won't go for it reminds me of the confidence they had that the 2014 campaign would be easy and that the SNP were bluffing over Brexit being a trigger for Independence.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

No one cares now, if there's any sense there won't be appeasement as clearly that didn't work, now is the time for fact after fact after fact for the Scottish, no devo -max, make the referendum binding so there's a real sense of risk. Be very clear on what will be allowed.

I think May has more chance of doing this than Cameron ever had.

Hardball not appeasement, lets put this thing to bed. OR they get what they want, either way we (rUK win)as this constant bitterness, sniping, infinityrefs are too damaging to sustain.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Agreed. The threat of an independence vote was derided by some as part of Project Fear but it's now become real.
Let's hope that Theresa May negotiates a deal with the EU that is more focused on keeping the UK together and less focused on appeasing the leader writers of the Brexit press.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Scotland In Union was formed immediately after the referendum and has been campaigning ever since. They rock up in one town centre or another every weekend. It's small but it's a start they claim to have about 15,000 registered supporters.

Www.scotlandinunion.co.uk

Whenever another referendum happens, it needs to be fronted by a non politician. Sturgeon will find it very hard to deal with, as her rhetoric is very heavily reliant on attacking people for their political affiliations rather than on their arguments.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Well, it looks like the Labour-Conservative-LibDem 'Better Together' campaign probably won't be operating for the next Scottish referendum.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7630291.html

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Scotland In Union have featured in the U.K. and Scottish news bulletins tonight.