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Hugh 02-03-2026 18:30
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211561)
If that is the case, then the 12% figure is really a lot higher.

I'm wasn't the one complaining that they should've intervened instead.
No, you were the one saying they couldn’t…

And your first sentence has no basis in reality, reasoning, or logic…

Paul 20-03-2026 22:32
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The stupid ass has done yet another U turn to drag us into the Iran War.

Sephiroth 02-04-2026 07:57
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From today's Torygraph.

papa smurf 02-04-2026 08:23
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36213300)
From today's Torygraph.
pure genius:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Jaymoss 07-04-2026 08:35
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
This is absolutely shocking

The original article is top bottom is the views of a barrister




1andrew1 07-04-2026 09:13
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36213488)
This is absolutely shocking

The original article is top bottom is the views of a barrister
TLDW but both very biased sources.

Jaymoss 07-04-2026 09:32
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36213489)
TLDW but both very biased sources.
oh well that must mean none of it happened then

Julian 07-04-2026 14:22
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36213489)
TLDW but both very biased sources.
Out of interest what, in your expert, professional opinion, would be a non-biased source?

1andrew1 07-04-2026 15:10
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36213502)
Out of interest what, in your expert, professional opinion, would be a non-biased source?
I doubt there is such thing as an unbiased source as we all have a degree of bias to us.

But there are less biased sources than the two in question. To me, these would include The Economist, Financial Times, and The Times.

Paul 07-04-2026 18:18
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What are they actually about ?
I'm not about to watch two long videos.
Esp something thats says its "Explosive","Betrayal" and other obvious click bait phrases.

Jaymoss 07-04-2026 18:35
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Starmer has claimed he had an active roll in the Rochdale sex trafficking/grooming ring prosecutions

One of the main victims evidence went so deep in the abuse that the powers that be said it was to complex and would open a can of worms they could not afford to follow up on so decided not to use her. The CPS said they could not possibly win without her evidence so this victim was named as a co conspirator so the evidence would be heard. All under Starmers watch . In the first video an ex Police officer quit because of this and exposed the story

Sephiroth 09-04-2026 08:34
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Now, that fool is in the Arabian peninsula.

From what I see, the UK has done nothing during the war to protect the gulf states, despite our long association and the bases we operate there.

Now, I’m a realist. I understand that past governments have hollowed out our military forces and that we are broadly incapable of doing anything meaningful inn gunboat terms.

But the very least that those fools currently in government could do is to move budgets around so that mothballed assets could be brought into use, or something; or commission new destroyers; anything that faces the real threats now in existence, not least Russia.

Hugh 09-04-2026 08:44
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"done nothing to during the war to protect the Gulf States"

https://www.intellinews.com/uk-s-sta...g-ends-435042/

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The British government announced vital air defences from the UK are being deployed to Arab monarchies to further support Persian Gulf partners from Iran’s aggressive missiles and drone attacks, which continue across the region.

Defence Secretary John Healey MP said:

"Iran’s aggressive attacks continue to threaten our allies and interests in the Middle East. That’s why the UK has been flying defensive missions since day one of this conflict to protect British interests and allies – and today we’re delivering further support by extending our UK jets in Qatar and deploying extra air defence teams and systems to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Kuwait."
What "mothballed assets"?

Commissioning a new destroyer isn’t a quick process…

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It is taking 11 years to build the first Type 26 frigate, HMS Glasgow and the ‘Global Combat Ship’ design that formed its basis was in gestation for about 30 years. T83 would therefore have to be developed entirely from scratch in about 5 years and built at a similar pace to the much simpler Type 31 frigates.
https://www.navylookout.com/when-wil...-navy-service/

1andrew1 09-04-2026 08:53
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36213629)
Now, that fool is in the Arabian peninsula.

From what I see, the UK has done nothing during the war to protect the gulf states, despite our long association and the bases we operate there.

Now, I’m a realist. I understand that past governments have hollowed out our military forces and that we are broadly incapable of doing anything meaningful inn gunboat terms.

But the very least that those fools currently in government could do is to move budgets around so that mothballed assets could be brought into use, or something; or commission new destroyers; anything that faces the real threats now in existence, not least Russia.
The British bases have played a defensive role so I would not deem to call it nothing. If you look at the Iranian propaganda videos, you will see that they have singled the UK out. They know it even if you don't.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1775727046

I agree that defence spending has been hollowed out since at least the Coalition government and that the current government is showing a reluctance to increase its spending to a deadline. Any new investment in destroyers takes years to come through and hasty procurement decisions have a habit of not working out...and the MoD does not have the best procurement record as it is.
Attachment 32174

1andrew1 17-04-2026 07:43
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I can't see him resigning and I doubt his unpopularity can increase much anyway. ;)

He does seem stuck between a rock and a hard place on this though.

Quote:
Keir Starmer battles calls to resign over Peter Mandelson vetting

Badenoch said she did not believe Starmer’s account that he found out only on Tuesday that Mandelson had failed a security vetting check in January 2025, before his ill-fated appointment as UK ambassador to Washington.

“All roads lead to a resignation,” Badenoch said. “It doesn’t matter what story the PM is telling — at some point there is deliberate dishonesty.”

Senior British politicians seldom directly accuse opponents of lying, but Badenoch took the gloves off. She suggested Starmer could not be trusted to tell the truth, even on issues such as the war with Iran. “What else is he lying about?” she said on the BBC.

Her attack raises the pressure on Starmer, whose defence in the Mandelson case rests on his assertion that he was kept in the dark about the security vetting failure by the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office.

Sir Olly Robbins, head of the FCDO, was sacked on Thursday night after Starmer “lost confidence” in him, as the prime minister shifted the blame. Morgan McSweeney, Starmer’s former chief of staff, has already quit over the Mandelson affair.

Starmer was said to have been “furious” to learn about the vetting failure this week, apparently only discovering what had happened as officials prepared to release documents about Mandelson’s appointment to parliament.
https://www.ft.com/content/c49c3c31-...syn-25a6b1a6=1


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