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thunderlips 16-03-2013 16:41

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sd /hd telly is telly to me not bothered as long as its switched on lol, anyway my contract just expired got a new deal, premiere collection, 3 multiroom boxes, 60 meg bb, phone £ 65.99 ! well happy ! sky=£105 same deal ! well done vm happy customer !

Chad 16-03-2013 16:56

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35549076)
Actually Virgin continues to increase its customers TV additions and l cannot see that changing

I agree, Virgin have been doing well. It will be interesting to see what kind of hit both SKY and Virgin take in terms of current customer numbers, and new customer growth, once BT launch all of their new packages in the summer.

denphone 16-03-2013 17:01

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35549092)
I agree, Virgin have been doing well. It will be interesting to see what kind of hit both SKY and Virgin take in terms of current customer numbers, and new customer growth, once BT launch all of their new packages in the summer.

Indeed but one suspect both providers have both prepared for that moment and will act accordingly.

Chad 16-03-2013 17:13

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35549094)
Indeed but one suspect both providers have both prepared for that moment and will act accordingly.

Virgin are going HD daft at the moment. It would be difficult to see HD fans moving from Virgin or SKY to BT in the summer. At the moment BT only have the Freeview HD channels I think. Whilst BT sports will launch in HD on their platform I've not see anything anywhere to suggest BT are trying to land more HD channels. Unless this changes, this could be a big sticking point.

HDFootyMan 16-03-2013 17:19

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35548853)
No, they are definitely on the right track. It will just be better for the future if they get hold of channels from the start... not after they have been gathering dust for a few years.

For many of those channels, Sky have a period of exclusivity (in part because Sky help fund the initial start-up costs of those channels).

jj20x 16-03-2013 18:08

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35549107)
For many of those channels, Sky have a period of exclusivity (in part because Sky help fund the initial start-up costs of those channels).

...which I have already commented on in post #2627.

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Originally Posted by speedski (Post 35548995)
Thing is. If you get the SD channel in your bundle. But the HD channel is in a higher bundle then how can you say you are giving HD for FREE?

You can't. Virgin is not free HD when the SD and HD variants of the SAME channel are not in the same bundles.

I would say the higher bundles are more expensive because they give more choice. You could just as easily argue that VM charge an additional fee for +1 channels. They charge more simply because, with the higher bundles, you have more choice.

HDFootyMan 16-03-2013 18:18

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35549137)
...which I have already commented on in post #2627.
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Which I would have read if the forum software would let me :erm:

Jameseh 16-03-2013 18:33

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35549160)
Which I would have read if the forum software would let me :erm:

Spoiler: 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35548831)
There's nothing to stop VM making temporary enhanced offers to help fund the new HD channels, it doesn't mean they would be owning channels. In fact, maybe they could have used some of the cash they received from their own channels to help bring new ones to the platform. VM had an exclusive carriage agreement for Film 4 HD for quite some time, so it wouldn't even be a major change of policy.

In any event, there's not that many channels left where funding an additional HD version would be a big crowd puller, so that ship has probably sailed.

That doesn't stop VM negotiating to carry new channels from the start. If they wait until the entire contract is due for renewal, Sky will have already negotiated a contract. As there was no demand for the channel from VM, Sky gets to negotiate exclusive carriage and then the channel remains unavailable to VM at contract renewal time.



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andy_m 16-03-2013 19:21

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You could make the same argument that Virgin charge for the Fox channel, or that it's free with xl. The truth is that xl contains the channels it contains and is priced accordingly. Hd is at no extra cost, but nor is it free. Not a great deal else to be said.

spiderplant 16-03-2013 19:57

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Originally Posted by speedski (Post 35549080)
At the same ARPU though?

No, that's growing too.

"Average monthly cable ARPU for quarter ended December 31, 2012 was £48.87 compared with £47.85 and £47.51 for the quarters ended December 31, 2011 and 2010 respectively."

From http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...F8VHlwZT0z&t=1

ken1234 16-03-2013 20:27

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kop32 16-03-2013 20:32

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35548872)
In most things they are more then the equal of Sky Henke but alas the the doomsayers will always say otherwise.:)

For "doomsayers" read "Realists",Den!!

denphone 16-03-2013 20:41

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Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35549232)
For "doomsayers" read "Realists",Den!!

Well kop it depends on the type of reality you are talking about.;)

speedski 17-03-2013 10:34

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35549216)
No, that's growing too.

"Average monthly cable ARPU for quarter ended December 31, 2012 was £48.87 compared with £47.85 and £47.51 for the quarters ended December 31, 2011 and 2010 respectively."

From http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...F8VHlwZT0z&t=1

And that APRU increase is less than VM's price increase(S) over the same period.

Which means, given the growing customer numbers the real term ARPU has in fact dropped....

steveh 17-03-2013 10:43

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35548935)
LPCM is an upgrade on dolby digital 2.0, one is compressed the other isn't.

Is ITV1 HD in LPCM or MPEG Layer 2 like the SD channels?


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