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zantarous 29-07-2010 14:30
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Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35064352)

I was just under the impression that tivo was meant to revolutionise tv not just try and link the internet in with it in a pointless way.
It does far more then just that, Tivo holds most of the PVR patents as they were first to the market with this type of device. All the things that Virgin can't implement at the moment are due to Tivo aggressively suing companies in court who infringe on their patents.

Anyone who has ever used a Tivo will tell you that it is simply the best type of PVR on the market, not so much in the US any more as they have a far greater choice then we do.

Imagine series links that just work, a EPG that can be updated during the day if needed, auto start times for when a show actually starts, a GUI that is more presentable and intuitive to use. A like feature so Tivo will recommend other types of shows based on ones you have watched or recorded in the past.

Being able to search the EPG via actor, director etc, also makes it search far more flexible. Internet streaming maybe pointless now but more and more sites will appear where you can stream more content although most of that stuff will be PPV I imagine.

I can't see all TV being streamed over the internet for a long time to come it simply isn't economical, via Cable or Satellite you can broadcast to 1 or 1 million people and the cost is the same, over the internet the more people watching a single stream means more bandwidth is required.

muppetman11 29-07-2010 14:51
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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35064384)
It does far more then just that, Tivo holds most of the PVR patents as they were first to the market with this type of device. All the things that Virgin can't implement at the moment are due to Tivo aggressively suing companies in court who infringe on their patents.

Anyone who has ever used a Tivo will tell you that it is simply the best type of PVR on the market, not so much in the US any more as they have a far greater choice then we do.

Imagine series links that just work, a EPG that can be updated during the day if needed, auto start times for when a show actually starts, a GUI that is more presentable and intuitive to use. A like feature so Tivo will recommend other types of shows based on ones you have watched or recorded in the past.

Being able to search the EPG via actor, director etc, also makes it search far more flexible. Internet streaming maybe pointless now but more and more sites will appear where you can stream more content although most of that stuff will be PPV I imagine.

I can't see all TV being streamed over the internet for a long time to come it simply isn't economical, via Cable or Satellite you can broadcast to 1 or 1 million people and the cost is the same, over the internet the more people watching a single stream means more bandwidth is required.
I Went on holiday and rented a house in the US which had Verizon Fios TV and they had TIVO hooked up I was pretty impressed with it , the Verizon FIOS internet and TV was good to.

nn012 29-07-2010 15:11
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35064379)
...and Berkett mentioned yesterday that Sky are bringing out a TIVo like product codenamed "Darwin" but he said VM's will be better and launched first.
Project Darwin is Sky Anytime+, ie. a watered down VoD service with no HD.

Quote:
Project Darwin is BSkyB’s initiative to connect its high-end set-top boxes to the internet. It wants to use the open internet to do this next year rather than investing heavily in a managed IPTV network.
It’s a smart move, as Sky needs a comprehensive on-demand service to compete in the connected world. It’s likely to use “progressive downloading”, where the content starts downloading to the hard disk of its digital-video recorders before playing on screen to ensure that quality of service can be (virtually) guaranteed.
http://www.intelligencecentre.net/20...they-all-mean/

Hiroki 29-07-2010 15:36
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Thanks for the tivo information.

Just begs the question on how Virgin Media will balls it up.,

TheDon 29-07-2010 16:42
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Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35064352)
I'm not vm's biggest fan because they are a joke of a company
How are they a joke of a company?

The past year at least they have been extremely successful in what they've set out to do.

VM has gone from strength to strength recently, you just seem incapable of seeing past the past and into the present.

Hiroki 29-07-2010 16:45
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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35064443)
How are they a joke of a company?

The past year at least they have been extremely successful in what they've set out to do.

VM has gone from strength to strength recently, you just seem incapable of seeing past the past and into the present.
For many. many, many reasons.

Latest one for me is they claim I haven't paid my bill even though it's been paid by direct debit and my bank have confirmed I paid it but yet Virgin say I haven't which makes them a joke in my eyes.

But this is a coming soon thread and not a virgin is a joke thread.

ahardie 29-07-2010 17:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35064444)
For many. many, many reasons.

Latest one for me is they claim I haven't paid my bill even though it's been paid by direct debit and my bank have confirmed I paid it but yet Virgin say I haven't which makes them a joke in my eyes.

But this is a coming soon thread and not a virgin is a joke thread.
I would just jack them in if I were you. Staying with a company that is a total joke and you hate with a passion is bad for your health. I would have packed them in years ago if I were you.

virginruinedntl 29-07-2010 17:46
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Sky 3D has just been announced: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/s...up-epl-movies/

wonder if/when virgin will be getting it. I'm not bothered in the slightest, 3d is a gimmick imo.

zing_deleted 29-07-2010 17:47
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the test channel has been up ages

Hiroki 29-07-2010 19:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35064478)
I would just jack them in if I were you. Staying with a company that is a total joke and you hate with a passion is bad for your health. I would have packed them in years ago if I were you.
Wasn't always this bad, just got bad when it became Virgin Media and I had jacked them in but they signed me up with a new 12 months contract anyway so I am in the middle of seeking legal advice regarding that at the moment.

Can't fault them with the internet though.

JayAy 29-07-2010 19:13
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35064384)
It does far more then just that, Tivo holds most of the PVR patents as they were first to the market with this type of device.
Being first to market has no impact on patent activity - it's the filing date with the Patent Office that's important, and it's always best to get it granted in the US. Then you can make pots of money form attacking any entity that infringes on your patent, settling the action, oh and then licensing it's use back to the company again.

I agree with your comments on tivo use though and think it has the potential to change the way in which TV is watched far more than the simple PVR functions we have available today.

Oh and how about VM showing US Patent Office TV HD :D

Media Boy UK 29-07-2010 19:58
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Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. III postphone.

Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. III has been postphone for an week it will now launch on August 9th.

This is due to some sad news I got today - my uncle is dead.

Ben B 29-07-2010 20:08
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Sorry for your loss MB, hope you are OK :hugs: :(

Mikey1981 29-07-2010 20:15
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Sorry for your loss MB, thoughts are with your family

devilincarnate 29-07-2010 20:25
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Sorry for your loss MB and imy thoughts are with you and you family at this time.


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