Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

The source isn't that convincing, propaganda can come from both sides. Some independent verification is needed.

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Given the heavy losses Ukraine are taking in the meat grinder fighting for a few square miles and with rusty F-16s some months away it’s perhaps the best chance for the counteroffensive if Wagner do.

Hence there will be a lot of clamour and excitement from the usual suspects.

Given this would be a reasonably anticipated response from Wagner PMC you’d expect Russia to be better prepared than last time - if indeed it’s a thing at all.

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

FT's reporting that Norway will supply an unknown number of F-16s to Ukraine.
https://www.ft.com/content/c935ab4e-...2-8993ad52c797


And Putin has sent 'condolences' to Yevgeny Prigozhin's family.
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-l...dates-12541713


And some US analysis just in:
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-l...dates-12541713

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

"Boss level" trolling here - listen to the end (it’s only 37 seconds long)

https://x.com/gerashchenko_en/status...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Hilarious. :D:D:D

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Solovyov looks so deflated! Such a shame.

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Only two submarines have been destroyed by hostile action since the end of World War 2, both of them by British missiles (the last one was the Argentine vessel Santa Fe, damaged and forced to surface near South Georgia during an extensive attack by RN helicopters that dropped an entire arsenal on it, including an AS-12 missile that went right through it, holing it on both sides).

Gotta love Solovyov’s show though. The UK realiy does live rent free in his head.

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Well at least he admits "this is war" !

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Could Swedens Grippen jets appear before F-16's?

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Possibly, but there are not an awful lot of spare Gripens sitting around, whereas there are an enormous number of F-16s. In the long run the F-16 is going to become the backbone of the UA air force.

Ironically the transfer of Gripens would still require US re-export approval because they have GE engines (licensed from the Yanks and built by Volvo).

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Didn't know that about the engines Chris but agree about the F-16's.

Meanwhile UK being blamed for WWI and WWII on Russian media and Zelensky is an MI6 agent!

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...59296208076944

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

It's such a boost to our national self-esteem that Russia credits us so much.

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I have to admit while watching it I felt a glow of pride!

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Are you sure its 2? AFAIK it is only the Santa Fe and that was scuttled sometime after engagement when being towed out of South Georgia so not really hostile action.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Santa_Fe_(S-21)

Meanwhile.

Ukraine’s Third Storm Brigade on the Bakhmut front says it has encircled and routed Russia’s 72nd Brigade, killing three batallion commanders and the Russian brigade’s intelligence chief as it retook the village of Andriyivka in a two-day operation.

And

Russia accidentally drops aerial bomb on occupied Nova Kakhovka

https://kyivindependent.com/national...nova-kakhovka/

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 

Santa Fe was forced to the surface by naval aviation, then strafed, then finally had a missile through its hull that went in one side and out the other, forcing the crew to make for land and abandon ship. It absolutely was destroyed by the RN, even though it didn’t sink immediately. It would be churlish to deny the RN a kill in those circumstances - though I did say ‘destroyed’, not ‘sunk’. Rostov-on-Don was likewise destroyed, but not sunk, being in dry dock at the time.

After surrendering to British forces a skeleton crew, under guard, was ordered to move Santa Fe to a different pier. It sank during that manoeuvre, though nobody drowned (one Argentine sailor was mistakenly shot and killed because his captor believed he might be trying to scuttle it). The Argentines never claimed to have scuttled the boat - they said a hatch had been left open in the confusion leading it to take on water and sink. The harbour was shallow enough that the conning tower remained above the surface.