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Re: President Trump 2.0

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211538)

I'm coming from the position that at least the regime is offed and its nuclear/ballistic missile threat reduced to zero.

As to Trump's motivation, I don't think we are in disagreement. I'm hoping that he sees this through thoroughly.

And I’m coming from the position that the regime will continue with the IRGC running things (which will just be more of the same), and the nuclear/ballistic missile threat will be the same as it was after the last "obliteration"…

Re: President Trump 2.0

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211540)

And there, we won't disagree. In other words, we'll await the result.

I see divergence in motivation between Israel and the USA. In that sense, Trump may be seen as Netanyahu's useful idiot.

Re: President Trump 2.0

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211541)

And there, we won't disagree. In other words, we'll await the result.

I see divergence in motivation between Israel and the USA. In that sense, Trump may be seen as Netanyahu's useful idiot.

Trump is an idiot, driven by a base need not to be defined by his past stupidity. He is therefore vulnerable to manipulation by anyone who can convince him his ends are served by doing what they want. Netanyahu is probably one (anything pro-Israel keeps a whole section of the MAGA base happy). Putin is definitely one. Goodness only knows what the KGB/FSB have got on him. Similarly, anyone with a plan to keep his parts of the Epstein files out of view would also be well placed.

Re: President Trump 2.0

Briefings on on-going military operations are normally, for OpSec purposes, held in a SCIF* (Secure Compartmentalised Information Facility), with no mobile devices being allowed in, or photos taken.

However, for Operation Epic Fury, it is a couple of curtains in a Mar A Lago ballroom, with photos showing the Order of Battle being allowed and distributed…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1772480683

*SCIF

A SCIF (Sensitive Compartment-ed Information Facility) is a highly secure, controlled environment used to protect classiﬁed or sensitive information from unauthorized access. SCIFs are essential for protecting national security and intelligence information, and they are typically used by government agencies, military, intelligence organizations, and contractors handling sensitive data.

Physical Security
SCIFs are designed with physical security features to prevent unauthorized access. These include:

Restricted entry: Access is tightly controlled, usually requiring badges, biometric scans, or PIN codes. Entry might require multiple security checks, such as a two-door vestibule system (also known as a man trap) to ensure only authorized personnel enter.

No windows or windows with reflective or obstructive coatings to prevent external visual surveillance.

Shields against electronic surveillance: SCIFs often include protections to prevent eavesdropping or interception of signals (e.g., EM shielding or TEMPEST compliance).

Data and Information Handling
Classified storage: Information, documents, and electronic data within a SCIF are stored in highly secure systems, such as encrypted servers or locked cabinets.

Data exﬁltration prevention: There are strict controls on any device that can remove information from the SCIF, such as USB drives, external hard drives, or any form of removable media. These devices are often prohibited or heavily monitored.

Air-gapping: SCIFs often feature air-gapped systems, meaning that their computers and networks are not connected to external networks (including the internet) to prevent data leaks. If communication with external systems is necessary, it’s done through tightly controlled, encrypted methods.

Security Measures to Prevent Eavesdropping:
Soundproofing: SCIFs often use acoustic treatments (e.g., soundproofing materials) to prevent eavesdropping throughsound.

Shielding against electromagnetic interference: To prevent devices within the SCIF from emitting signals that could be intercepted, SCIFs may use shielding that complies with standards like TEMPEST (a U.S. government standard for counteracting electronic surveillance).

Environmental control: SCIFs also employ strict controls on temperature, humidity, and airflow to maintain the integrity of sensitive equipment and prevent environmental factors from triggering alarms or causing system failures

https://ramseytest.com/scif-room/

Re: President Trump 2.0

Had to chuckle at that picture, the Big Man looks like somebody who is waiting for the others to bugger off home so he can empty the bins and mop the floor

:D

Re: President Trump 2.0

Why the USA attacked Iran, according to the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2930752.html

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Mr Rubio said President Donald Trump was forced into a preemptive response after learning of an imminent Israeli attack, as officials knew such an attack would trigger retaliation against US military personnel in the Middle East.

“It was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone – the United States or Israel or anyone – they were going to respond, and respond against the United States,” the secretary of state told reporters at the Capitol on Monday.

“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t pre-emptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties.”

Re: President Trump 2.0

Makes sense. Israel knew where Khamenei was because they hacked the streetcams.

Re: President Trump 2.0

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211592)

Why the USA attacked Iran, according to the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.

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Mr Rubio said President Donald Trump was forced into a preemptive response after learning of an imminent Israeli attack, as officials knew such an attack would trigger retaliation against US military personnel in the Middle East.

“It was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone – the United States or Israel or anyone – they were going to respond, and respond against the United States,” the secretary of state told reporters at the Capitol on Monday.

“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t pre-emptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2930752.html

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211593)

Makes sense. Israel knew where Khamenei was because they hacked the streetcams.

Why the USA attacked Iran, according to Trump three days ago...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2dyz6p3weo

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Trump has said the aim of the operation is to "ensure that Iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon"

"We're going to destroy their missiles and raze their missile industry to the ground. It will be totally again obliterated," he said in an eight-minute video posted on Truth Social on Saturday morning

From the same article

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Netanyahu dismissed as "ridiculous" claims that Israel had pushed the US into a war with Iran.

And Hegseth says it's retribution...

https://abcnews.com/Politics/hegseth...y?id=130674351

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Monday defended the ongoing U.S. attack on Iran as necessary because of Tehran’s missile arsenal and nuclear ambitions, calling it "our retribution" for its yearslong role in sponsoring terrorism.

You would hope that the three people leading the war that could escalate into a global conflict could at least agree on why they are doing it... :dunce:

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Who could have predicted that another major conflict in the Middle East would push oil & gas prices up?

. . and which Countries economy would benefit from such a thing?

*disclaimer, I've no idea where we buy our oil & gas from, but it won't be Russia will it ;)

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Today’s internet is won by a KCL academic for this tweet.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1772541755

Re: President Trump 2.0

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211596)

Why the USA attacked Iran, according to Trump three days ago...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2dyz6p3weo

From the same article

And Hegseth says it's retribution...

https://abcnews.com/Politics/hegseth...y?id=130674351

You would hope that the three people leading the war that could escalate into a global conflict could at least agree on why they are doing it... :dunce:

I really do buy the Rubio assertion. It makes sense when you see that Israel knew where Khamenei was and made its strike accordingly. Trump, presumably, had been warned and knew what he had to do especially after his sabre rattling. It was "show us your willy" time. So, they all know what they're doing and why - never mind some of their utterances.

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Or…

They all don’t know what they’re doing and why, and their utterances back that up…

Re: President Trump 2.0

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211604)

Or…

They all don’t know what they’re doing and why, and their utterances back that up…

Their actions in the field more than suggest otherwise.

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I can see it being one of those "well it seemed a good idea at the time" episodes

Re: President Trump 2.0

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211608)

Their actions in the field more than suggest otherwise.

No they don’t.

Tactical competence in the field is the purview of the armed forces, which is doing what it has trained to do and executing one of a range of pre-planned scenarios.

None of that indicates that the politicians and other officials who are supposed to have strategic oversight of it all have any idea what they’re trying to achieve.