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Amber Rudd has joined with May saying it was 'wrong' and Sajid Javid was even stronger:

https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/statu...91541864255488



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Doing business with the US without Trump is pretty much what the government are trying to do. Congress is largely responsible for any trade deal and Liam Fox is well-connected with the Republican Party.

Keep the details largely hidden from Trump, call it the 'Trump is Great Trade Deal' and hope he doesn't attempt to torpedo it is the best option it seems.

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Yes but Trump has a degree of control of the U.S Military, if the U.S stopped defending us, Russia would think it’s their Christmas come early, not saying this would happen, but all this stop the State visit chatter does not help, we need them more than they need us.

Yes but all these MPs calling him out need to remember, specifically the Labour MPs, their leader supports Hamas, and Iran extremists. Not to mention the Anti-semitism that’s rife within Labour.

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Globalism. Though they may not know it.

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BREAKING: New York Times have reported within the last hour that U.S Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is about to be ousted and replaced by CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/u...peo-trump.html

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. . . all the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn't put Trumpy together again

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A good many of them know exactly that but that's not to say the likes of Thornberry isn't a useful fool to some... :D

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If Trump gets the hump with the UK things will get an awful lot harder so insulting him too much and then trying to sideline him doesn't bode well IMHO and would indeed put Labour in a very difficult position were they to be in Govt. and having to live in the real world...

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He seems to get the hump very easily. May offered the mildest most diplomatic reaction to him retweeting Britain First and got into a huff so this seems like an impossible task.

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Very good, you should do stand up :D

Surely our whole Brexit strategy isn't pinned on doing a deal with the Donald ?? If so it's a very risky strategy ! It'll depend how how he feels on the day, whether he won at golf, or somebody has been nasty to him on Twitter....

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I was discussing the videos that Trump had tweeted - if there was confusion, I apologise.

Two out of the three videos Trump re-tweeted did not represent what was stated in their description by Britain First.

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Yahugh, actually.... ;)

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Really, what did he say again? I'm not sure I'd call that a major outburst despite the media and various opposition politicians trying to turn it into one.

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He said

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I know.

So what? She told him what he did was wrong and he replied. Big deal.

He could have said the UK has just gone to the back of the queue for trade deals like that top bloke Obama.

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We are talking about the President and the Prime Minster here. Hardly normal for the President of the United States to slag off the PM via Twitter. But then it isn't normal for the President to retweet Britain First either.

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Yes, that hadn't escaped me but we don't live in normal times - we live in the age of social media and that's changed everything. It's perfectly normal for world leaders to slag each other off (and far worse) the only thing that's different here is the means of delivery. That's where we are now.

By the way I don't call what Trump said 'slagging May off'. He told her to concentrate on UK affairs and not to worry about the US's.

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I think what we can ALL agree on is that this is, one way or another, a totally different kettle of fish U.S President, whether people can stand him or not, he is different and he was technically elected on that premise.

I have said many times, I do not get the hysteria in the media and the constant minute by minute scandals that he has done or not done. Some have been Fake News others are just direct attacks at his communication style.

I fundamentally disagree with his actions over the last few days. But Theresa May does things that pisses me off too, but I would still vote for the party she leads. I am voting for the party, not it's leader.

In terms of the State visit, we are extending the invitation to the President of the United States, he represents the U.S whether people like it or not, he will be in position for next 3 years, or 7 if he is re-elected, if not, if things get serious with the Russian collusion story, if Mueller has something to get Trump with, it may go down a different path, but even impeachment proceedings will take a long time.

Democratic Congressmen have already produced articles of impeachment against Trump, I think Al Green, has submitted his second one in the last few weeks. But other Democrats don't want to entertain the idea as of yet.

Some are screeching 25th Amendment and fitness for office and that he is mentally deranged but to remove him on medical grounds, that is just as complex to invoke.

The Constitution was never written to make removing the President from office, an easy deal given that the Founding Fathers who created it, 4 of them actually became President.

The Mid terms may produce some interesting results, GOP may keep it's current standing or it won't but there is scandals rocking both parties right now, sexual allegations etc.

When Nixon was almost facing certain impeachment back in 1974, he had lost all of his political allies and the support from the people who elected him in to office. Trump still holds a solid support base. So if he is forcibly removed from office, I do not think it will go down well with the people who put him there, who still support him.