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Ah, the "Reverend" Stu. :nutter:

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Thank you for sending this attachment, that does put a different perspective to it, which appears to have been misreported elsewhere.

In which case, I change my view, which is that as an English person, I don't care one way or the other if the Scots get independence.

However, as a human being, I would feel for future generations of Scots, who would be saddled with the debts and economic mess generally that would arise from any decision to become independent of the UK.

It seems to me that the SNP are an economically illiterate bunch who simply haven't paid attention to where the money will come from to fulfill their inflated expenditure plans. In addition to that, their policies would drive big business away, leaving the less well off even worse off. Unemployment would rocket and there would be precious little money to spend on welfare.

They just don't get it.

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I don't think one loonball smilie truly reflects him.

From lying about his name, being committed to the cause from his home in err England and thinking 9/11 was a great laugh he is the uber-cybernat.

Still he's conned persuaded the yes camp to fund him tithe tune of £100,000 for sitting in his pants churning out lies and misinformation from his bedroom.

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:nutter:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-34283944

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Seeing you've made a rip roaring *bleep* of every power you already have and people are finally noticing what makes you think another fairytale white paper will make people vote for separation next time.

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As great admirers of the EU, it's not really a surprise that, having obtained the wrong result in one referendum, they very rapidly start going on about another. You see referenda are only any good when they yield the required result.

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The EU's very good at that, I remember the Irish had to vote twice to get the desired result.

We should remember that that Scotland only joined us because of a failed colonisation attempt in America which bankrupted the Scottish and as a condition of a bailout they joined us. However they are very good at getting terms such as over representation at Westminster and the Barnet formula (whatever that may be?)

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A budgeting rule the Treasury uses to ensure capital spending projects aren't all concentrated in the south east of England. Planned project spending in England automatically results in a proportionately-sized pot of money being made available to Scotland, Wales and NI.

It was introduced as a temporary measure in (IIRC) the 1970s, but stuck for want of anything better.

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What sort of thing are you talking about?

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Education with literacy standards slipping over recent years and the new testing regime getting slated by every teacher I know as a disgraceful way to manipulate the pass mark.

NHS waiting time targets missed pretty much constantly.

As for Policing, well putting all the regional forces into one big political football whilst simultaneously removing their VAT exemption and slashing their budget has worked brilliantly... :erm:

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Perhaps, but they just blame the Tories for everything, even the devolved matters, and people seem content to keep believing it.

Can we not just accept that there's a big divorce from reality and amicably divorce? The SNP think they can do better, see how things run when they start ramping taxes up to pay for their utopia.

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But Derek you know that's all the fault of the English in general and Westminster in particular... :rolleyes:

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Nicola Sturgeon fires starting gun on Scottish independence referendum.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...nce-referendum

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I'd be tempted to call her bluff. Sturgeon's SNP are a one trick pony and right now the independence argument has never looked weaker (e.g. price of oil, losing Sterling, no EU membership) from where I'm sitting. Of course if, north of the border, they vote for independence good luck to them. At least we'll at last be able to concentrate on the affairs of those who wish to be part of the union not those who don't and whose idea of 'independence' is ceding ever more power to the EU.

Salmond before her and now Sturgeon, remind me of any number of failed 1970's union leaders - their behaviour is just as misguided and will end up having the same result for those they represent.

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The Independence issue was settled two years ago in a proclaimed once-in-a-lifetime referendum. Scotland chose the UK. The once-in-a-lifetime Brexit issue was decided last June. The UK chose Leave. Both are clear democratic mandates.

Sturgeon is a remoaning nationalist trying to exploit that which for her are democratically lost causes. The SNP won't accept anything other than Scottish independence but I don't see why a Country needs to go through further divisive turmoil because of the stamping of her little careerist feet.