Cable Forum - Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

We’ll see about that! The majority of the parliamentary party support him. Far too much prominence is given to the Boris-haters. It’s about time the media gave more prominence to the positives.

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History can certainly repeat itself, but you can also learn from history to avoid past mistakes.

Boris needs to forge ahead and implement his manifesto. Things will look different in two years’ time, and Labour will still not have any palatable policies. And Starmer will have that partygate fine that’s heading his way to contend with!

Whatever Nadine...

Kind of hoping Bozo stays on tbh, there's no one to replace him and up against the election winning machine I'd hope the little parties team up and part of that pact will be proportional representation, finally every one's vote will matter and it'll be an end to minority governments having the ability to screw the rest of us over

OLD BOY

06-06-2022 15:11

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36124506)

Put those Left-leaning rose tinted glasses away, TheDaddy. It ain’t gonna happen.

Dave42

06-06-2022 15:13

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124514)

Put those Left-leaning rose tinted glasses away, TheDaddy. It ain’t gonna happen.

pot kettle black from the one that tory rose tinted glasses are welded on forever

jfman

06-06-2022 15:15

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124514)

Put those Left-leaning rose tinted glasses away, TheDaddy. It ain’t gonna happen.

You don't need to be left leaning or have any tint in your glasses to see Johnson is toast. It's a matter of when,. not if.

Damien

06-06-2022 15:18

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I think he'll survive but be badly wounded from it similar to May. Although that's just going with the pundit consensus, they must be better wired in than me.

OLD BOY

06-06-2022 15:19

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36124493)

He will, but so did Thatcher.

I think they're making a mistake.

Boris, was able to transcend across political and class divides and I don't think any other Tory has that particular attribute. I also think it should be decided in a GE whether the country wants him as PM or not.

I also think they have gone a bit early, they probably should have waited until the two by-elections were done, if they were both crushing defeats the result today may have been different.

Too true, but the Boris-haters are so pre-occupied with their campaign to get rid, they cannot see the obvious.

As it stands, we know there are roughly 15% who want him out and would vote for that. There may also be a small number of others who have not yet put their heads above the parapet, but now given a chance to vote on it, may vote against him.

I think we will all soon realise that as with just about everything that’s happened in the last few years, it’s that minority who are trying to disrupt everything.

Boris will survive and thrive. And his detractors will be more confused than ever!

Dave42

06-06-2022 15:20

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36124517)

You don't need to be left leaning or have any tint in your glasses to see Johnson is toast. It's a matter of when,. not if.

exactly but he can never do anything wrong in OB's eyes

OLD BOY

06-06-2022 15:21

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36124517)

You don't need to be left leaning or have any tint in your glasses to see Johnson is toast. It's a matter of when,. not if.

Perhaps you can send me a picture of your bloodied nose after today’s vote.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36124521)

exactly but he can never do anything wrong in OB's eyes

That’s because he hasn’t.

Damien

06-06-2022 15:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124519)

I think the final number will be a lot higher than 15%. Remember these are people willing to force the issue but once faced with the choice in a private ballot....

Boris Johnson isn't popular with the parliamentary party or the public. It's only the mess this will create that's put them off so far.

Dave42

06-06-2022 15:23

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124522)

Perhaps you can send me a picture of your bloodied nose after today’s vote.

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That’s because he hasn’t.

so breaking the law is ok hmmmmmm that he made

OLD BOY

06-06-2022 15:25

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36124526)

so breaking the law is ok hmmmmmm that he made

The Met over-reacted, which is why Bradford Police feel compromised in dealing with Starmer.

A cake does not make it a party. And there is nothing to say in those rules that you cannot eat a cake or have a drink.

Damien

06-06-2022 15:29

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BTW If Johnson does lose the vote he'll have been the PM for less time than May. And only just longer than Gordon Brown who'll he match for days served tomorrow.

Dave42

06-06-2022 15:32

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124527)

keep tell yourself that OB even lots of tories have turned against him for breaking law

1andrew1

06-06-2022 15:41

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124514)

Put those Left-leaning rose tinted glasses away, TheDaddy. It ain’t gonna happen.

Advocating proportional representation is not of itself left-leaning.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124527)

The law was broken as it was a non-work meeting. Unlike the leaving-dos.