Cable Forum - UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

Lest you have forgotten, it was the north that wanted to leave the EU.

I still do not buy your 'doom and gloom' scenario, Andrew. We will still trade with the EU, and the rest of the world is our oyster.

I don't believe these forecasts you keep referring to for one minute. Time and time again, they have been proved wrong, by underestimating Britain's capacity to adjust. They will be proved wrong again.

Hugh	03-03-2020 15:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36026217)

Lest you have forgotten, it was the north that wanted to leave the EU.

I still do not buy your 'doom and gloom' scenario, Andrew. We will still trade with the EU, and the rest of the world is our oyster.

I don't believe these forecasts you keep referring to for one minute. Time and time again, they have been proved wrong, by underestimating Britain's capacity to adjust. They will be proved wrong again.

There was also a majority to leave in the South-East, the South-West, the East, the West Midlands, the East Midlands, and Wales - none of which are in the ”North"...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028

Mr K	03-03-2020 16:07

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36026218)

There was also a majority to leave in the South-East, the South-West, the East, the West Midlands the East Midlands, and Wales - none of which are in the ”North"...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028

Scotland voted remain and that definitely is in the North. They might vote Leave in different vote though...

papa smurf

03-03-2020 16:27

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36026221)

Scotland voted remain and that definitely is in the North. They might vote Leave in different vote though...

Really ! they never mention it.

Chris

03-03-2020 16:32

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I didn’t vote remain. Mind you, as I’m not a nationalist I don’t confuse myself with Scotland, nor do I assume that the whole of Scotland agrees with me.

Pierre

03-03-2020 19:20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36026217)

Lest you have forgotten, it was the north that wanted to leave the EU.
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I would dispute that statement. The 52% that voted leave were distributed fairly evenly.

Although, when the represent how people voted on a constituency basis it skews it diagrammatically

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36026221)

Scotland voted remain ...

All of Scotland? Really?

Because for the last 3 years you’ve been reminding everyone on here, on a near daily basis, how not everyone in the U.K. voted leave.

So at least, using your logic now in how you interpret the Scottish vote, you now accept the U.K. as a whole, as a bloc, voted leave.

OLD BOY

03-03-2020 19:37

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36026218)

I know, but I was responding to Andrew's comment. He didn't mention the South-East, the South-West, the East, the West Midlands, the East Midlands, and Wales, so nor did I.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36026221)

Scotland voted remain and that definitely is in the North. They might vote Leave in different vote though...

Neither Andrew nor I were referring to Scotland.

1andrew1

03-03-2020 20:51

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In other news: The Telegraph seems to be a getting a bit more realistic of late and is now reporting on the future significant negative impacts of Brexit, beginning with Northern Ireland.

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An industry insider tells me a supermarket has calculated the cost of putting a single 'mixed' container (meat, fish, dairy) goods from GB to NI at £6,000 - or "half total value of consignment". This is a serious #Brexit issue.

I caveat the above by saying I am not privy to the methodology, but people who understand this stuff have checked it, and say it makes sense.
This the cost of compliance - vet decs etc, with SPS (animal health) stuff being the biggest burden. Why does this matter?

Because if you think about it, the Northern Irish "frontstop" is the FIRST moment where the #Brexit rubber actually hits the road - until now it's all been transition and obfuscation. This the first attempt at actually doing real stuff. And the UK govt is balking.

If those numbers are even half-right, you can see why.

There have been other numbers - the UK impact assessment spoke of £15-£56 per declaration, but this aggregate figure puts it into serious perspective....

This also puts into perspective the kind of incendiary language that @JP_Biz reported from the NI assembly yesterday - NI agri minister saying the protocol was "hugely damaging". One member called it a "punishment beating" for supporting #Brexit

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status...06129639055360
http://m.email3.telegraph.co.uk/nl/j...witter,4422d04

Sephiroth

07-03-2020 09:56

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As expected, the first negotiating session with the arrogant EU has hit the barriers. Never mind accusations that Boris was always Going for no deal, the EU is taking the talks in that direction.

What don’t they understand about the word ‘sovereignty’? They seem to think that only their sovereignty counts and respect for ours doesn’t.

The bleaters here may well argue that they said Brexit would be a bad thing. But I am clearer than ever, being in bed with that arrogant, undemocratic and disrespectful institution would be much worse as they turn the screw on us.

Chris

07-03-2020 14:41

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Linkage?

Sephiroth

07-03-2020 14:57

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36026555)

Linkage?

Yesterday's broadsheet newspapers. You don't believe me?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...boris-johnson/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...it-trade-deal/

Chris

07-03-2020 15:11

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36026558)

Yesterday's broadsheet newspapers. You don't believe me?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...boris-johnson/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...it-trade-deal/

Paranoid, much?

I’m appealing for basic forum etiquette.

Sephiroth

07-03-2020 15:27

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36026561)

Paranoid, much?

I’m appealing for basic forum etiquette.

I'm irked at the pedantry. Anybody who reads the papers would have known what I was writing about.

The point is that the UK is unlikely to continue negotiating with these arrogant people. Indeed the Guvmin has made it perfectly clear they they will walk away from talks in June if there is no obvious sign of a deal (I suppose Chris will want a link for that).

Chris

07-03-2020 23:02

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36026564)

As I posted that news, with a link, over a week ago, you needn’t bother.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=2493

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