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Maybe because it was viewed as nothing more than another attempt to discredit Brexit.

People are too willing these days to jump on the smallest thing to smear people they don't like or who express views that are contrary to their own.

Let's see the evidence before we jump to conclusions. Aaron Banks sounds very confident that no such evidence will be found on the basis that the allegations are false.

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You're right. From Damien's link:

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Except that just because Britain is leaving the EU doesn't mean there will not continue to be co-operation on matters of national security.

The EU will continue to be our neighbours and we will continue to have a common interest on many issues.

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I am sure you did not mean to come across as patronising but telling people to "deal" with it certainly gives that impression.

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This is all very silly. Bickering about Aaron Banks and the Daily Mail.

There is some light in the dark corner. I hope that I'm not misreading sentiment that the EU prominente have concluded that their combined financial depth is insufficient to fund investment and that they need to continue calling on the London markets as at present.

If that's true, the UK has a strong negotiating card to play in terms of the rule regarding withdrawal by the EU of equivalence recognition.

I also think, from my armchair, that this card can also be used to ease the Irish question.

Let's see. 21-November is it?

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You need to read the several posts between myself and Andrew last night for context. Yes, shouting “deal with it” at someone across a table would be unpleasant, but in its correct sense, dealing with something is sound advice to the alternative, which in this case is hanging on to every futile hope that “it” isn’t going to happen.

We are leaving, and the sooner everyone deals with it, i.e. accepts what’s happening, stops deceiving themselves that it can be halted and starts looking for ways to accommodate this new truth in their lives, the (relatively) happier they will be.

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Agreed, Chris. I know that the result of the referendum was difficult to bear for some, and a section of the population is genuinely worried about what is coming.

But it is pointless fighting it now, and I think that once a deal is announced, this will reassure many people who are currently worried about Brexit.

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Dominic Raab wrote a letter indicating that 21 November was the expected date for a deal. But this was withdrawn just three hours later. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-raab-suggests

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Just to add a bit of flavour to Chris's post. My original post was a reflective piece on how we should react if it was found that Arron Banks was found guilty. It opened by stating that Brexit negotiations should continue. It was not a run-of-the mill "We need a referendum post.
I do think that any potential interference in the democratic process by a hostile state is a concern and we need to be thoughtful about how we tackle it.
Business is worried about Brexit on many fronts.

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More of a hypothesis than a substantive point, imho...

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You just cannot help yourself can you?

You really want him to be guilty, even though he states that he wants his day in court to clear his name as he denies all accusations from the Remainers in the EC. I call them Remainers because they have taken a blind eye to the £9 Million the government spent on the Remain propaganda leaflet they sent to every household in Britain - that should NEVER have been allowed, pretty much like President Obama with his back of queue threat, which we then learn that he was just following a diplomatic request from then Prime Minister, David Cameron.

So what if Arron Banks may or may have not committed offences - the Remain side is just as, if not more complicit in heavy, dodgy influencing and yet, leave still won despite the Remain campaign getting a nice boost to it's campaign in the form of that tax payer funded Pro-Remain leaflet. :rolleyes:

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The deal on financial services seems to be that we’re going to keep close to EU regulations and in return we’ll have continued access to European markets. There isn’t much suggestion it’s extended beyond that.

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The Government leaflet happened outside of the campaign so it’s not in the scope of what the electoral commission does. Morally dodgy perhaps but not illegal.

And not ‘so what’ if laws were broken. If there is a suspicion of offences the police investigate it. I have not been one of the ones here saying this should mean another referendum but the accusations still need to be looked into.

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Lol, I can help you though! :D Here's a quote from one of my posts hoping that he hasn't acted illegally.
If someone or an organisation is thought likely to have broken the law, it should be investigated. No one is above the law and that is the backbone of Western democracies.

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He must have spoken out of turn and let the cat out of the bag too early!

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You often like to jump in with the habit of offering critic to something, or a certain point, I never actually said.

So here goes.

1) Never said Arron Banks should not be investigated. I merely commented on the issue of Banks being investigated and suggesting Remainers are typically clutching at straws hoping it will stop Brexit, which it will not, nor should it.

2) Never said the leaflet was illegal.

Dodgy - yes deffo and that's as far as I am willing to travel - unlike some, calling people criminals before they have actually gone to trial and been successfully convicted.