Cable Forum - Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

That’s certainly the word on the street. If he does, he is safe for another year, during which he needs to redouble his efforts to implement the manifesto that got him the majority he enjoyed at the election.

Sky news just had some Lord on saying that even if he survives the vote it’s only a matter of time before he’s gone should this follow history

papa smurf

06-06-2022 09:17

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36124478)

Sky news just had some Lord on saying that even if he survives the vote it’s only a matter of time before he’s gone should this follow history

But has this Lord ever wrestled a greased pig ;)

OLD BOY

06-06-2022 09:33

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I feel you and Old Boy may need to get the smelling salts out this evening. :D

We’ll see about that! The majority of the parliamentary party support him. Far too much prominence is given to the Boris-haters. It’s about time the media gave more prominence to the positives.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36124478)

Sky news just had some Lord on saying that even if he survives the vote it’s only a matter of time before he’s gone should this follow history

History can certainly repeat itself, but you can also learn from history to avoid past mistakes.

Boris needs to forge ahead and implement his manifesto. Things will look different in two years’ time, and Labour will still not have any palatable policies. And Starmer will have that partygate fine that’s heading his way to contend with!

1andrew1

06-06-2022 09:37

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And Starmer will have that partygate fine that’s heading his way to contend with!

If Starmer gets fined (Beergate, not Partygate) then he's said he'll resign. So that won't be an issue with the electorate as he won't be the Labour leader.

papa smurf

06-06-2022 09:41

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36124482)

If Starmer gets fined (Beergate, not Partygate) then he's said he'll resign. So that won't be an issue with the electorate as he won't be the Labour leader.

Now that's a vote winner.

1andrew1

06-06-2022 09:58

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If Johnson wins, the whole Party will be smeared with the Partygate reputation and Johnson will end up like May: a lame duck PM.

Hugh	06-06-2022 10:23

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124475)

That’s certainly the word on the street. If he does, he is safe for another year, during which he needs to redouble his efforts to implement the manifesto that got him the majority he enjoyed at the election.

Unless the 1922 Committee change the rule (which they can do).

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-johnson-work

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Under party rules, a leader who wins a confidence vote is safe from such a challenge for 12 months. However, the rules can easily be changed, and it does not bring safety. May won her confidence vote but was forced soon afterwards to announce a timetable for her departure, under the threat of a rule change and new vote. May gained the support of just under two-thirds of her MPs. A survivable figure for Johnson would depend on many factors, but a victory by that margin or less would make his prospects very uncertain.

GrimUpNorth

06-06-2022 10:38

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124480)

History can certainly repeat itself, but you can also learn from history to avoid past mistakes.

You mean like don't tell lies, and if you do then don't get caught or changing the rules when one of you MP's or Ministers gets caught breaking the existing rules. Boris doesn't seem to have the same view as you do when it comes to how to avoid history repeating itself.

On a cheeky side note, do you wear a Nadine mask when you type some of your comments? ;):D

papa smurf

06-06-2022 10:56

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Boris needs half the votes plus 1 assuming every one votes and no one abstains ,anything else is just icing on the cake.

Mr K	06-06-2022 11:12

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Back Bozzo, you know it makes sense.

Signed

Sir Keir (PM in waiting)

BenMcr

06-06-2022 11:29

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36124489)

Boris needs half the votes plus 1 assuming every one votes and no one abstains ,anything else is just icing on the cake.

When May had her vote...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46547246

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Jacob Rees-Mogg, who led calls for the confidence vote, said losing the support of a third of her MPs was a "terrible result for the prime minister" and called on her to resign.

mrmistoffelees

06-06-2022 11:37

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John Penrose resigns and says Boris should too

Pierre

06-06-2022 11:48

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36124473)

I have a feeling Boris will win this…. (No logic, just feeling)

He will, but so did Thatcher.

I think they're making a mistake.

Boris, was able to transcend across political and class divides and I don't think any other Tory has that particular attribute. I also think it should be decided in a GE whether the country wants him as PM or not.

I also think they have gone a bit early, they probably should have waited until the two by-elections were done, if they were both crushing defeats the result today may have been different.

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John Penrose resigns and says Boris should too

who's John Penrose?

papa smurf

06-06-2022 11:50

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36124493)

Dido's hubby

BenMcr

06-06-2022 11:51