Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35911483)

What cantankerous statement? I asked a genuine question. That's why there was a question mark at the end of the sentance and not an exclamation mark!

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911475)

It was the correct figure, which did not take into account the rebate, which is not a permanent fixture. It wouldn't have made any difference to voting if the lower figure had been quoted - it was still a huge sum which is better in our coffers than the black hole which is the EU.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35911513)

It was an incorrect figure and they were told it was incorrect by official bodies but failed to change it. The objective in stating an incorrect figure was to move the debate onto the fact that we pay for membership and not the loss of jobs that will come when EU bodies like the medicines and banking regulators move outside the UK and service companies relocate staff.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35911520)

Politicians lie, unfortunately it's what we expect.

People voted the way they did for all the wrong reasons and didn't realise the consequences. A lot of them now realise how screwed we are, but few are prepared to admit they got it wrong, human nature I guess.

Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35911580)

Spot on Mr K. Now beat a hasty retreat :D

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35911583)

The rest is just his normal garbage.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35911681)

Correct, a lot of it is just him hissy fitting, and having his daily whine, he says 'A lot of brexiteers know how screwed they are.', Which is total BS, because he has not asked any of them.' I think he is conveniently forgetting nearly 26 million people voted for two brexit focused parties, in the recent general election just gone.

Lib Dem's were promising a 2nd referendum, clearly this was not the popular choice.

So I would like to know who this brexiteer lot, who he says, now think they are screwed...

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35911699)

You misquoted me there Mick. I said how screwed we are. I forgive you fwiw.

Unless we get away from winners/losers, Remainers/Brexiters, and realise see we're all on the same side at the end of the day, then this country is doubly screwed.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35911699)

You misquoted me there Mick. I said how screwed we are. I forgive you fwiw.

Unless we get away from winners/losers, Remainers/Brexiters, and realise see we're all on the same side at the end of the day, then this country is doubly screwed.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35911513)

It was an incorrect figure and they were told it was incorrect by official bodies but failed to change it. The objective in stating an incorrect figure was to move the debate onto the fact that we pay for membership and not the loss of jobs that will come when EU bodies like the medicines and banking regulators move outside the UK and service companies relocate staff.

Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35911732)

How is the EU communist?!? Where has the EU suggested the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social class, money and state? If anything, most anti EU protagonists complain about too much state because of the EU.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911757)

I said 'virtual communist'. They are not there yet, but look at the way they are going. I don't think business leaders really view them as helpful at all, obsessed as they are with regulation and penalising success.

It is plain to see that they are stifling enterprise, and I think the majority of voters in this country see that.

One step along the slippery path...

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35911699)

Unless we get away from winners/losers, Remainers/Brexiters, and realise see we're all on the same side at the end of the day, then this country is doubly screwed.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35911789)

Bollocks, we are being doubly screwed right now while we are still in that pile of garbage.

As long as we stay in a corrupted entity, we will always be screwed, that's why we are coming out and rightly so, especially when certain old pricks and their teams, in the EU are spending 5 figure sums to travel to other parts of the EU, I mean FFS, £24,000+ for a private air taxi for just one day, is taking the piss...



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7885326.html

This half a million Euros, is only a month's worth of travel expenditure, imagine a full year. :rolleyes: