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I do not disagree with you Chris it is involved and more complicated. What I was trying to put over was the fact that the repeal of the ECA 1973 would have to be debated by Parliament. Triggering of A50 does not. Catch 22.
Which comes first? Surely Parliament should be pushing for a debate on repeal of the Act not the triggering of A50? As EU rules state that membership will be ended 2yrs after triggering of A50 does that mean the ECA 1973 has no bearing on membership? I can see a lot of dummies being spat out of the pram over the next coupple of years. |
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I wonder if the funding for the legal case is a no expense spared exercise as the government has been busy telling us for the last 6 years or so that there is no money so its all cuts cuts cuts.
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Seems its got even worse now. |
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Incidentally, the European Communities Act was passed in 1972, not 1973. |
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If the government said Article 50 was revocable then I guess they could win the appeal but that itself would create problems.
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I think his real issue is that votes for UKIP don't translate into seats in Parliament so his voice in the debate will be less strong. If so, he has a valid point but it's difficult to reform an electoral system which stops you getting elected. |
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This needs a MP vote.
The referendum is not binding, and its undemocratic to not put it through parliament. Mrs May has a sound case she keeps saying, why is she so worried about putting it to a vote? |
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Brexit: CPS considers complaint that leave campaigns misled voters
Case argues Vote Leave and Leave.EU made ‘knowingly misleading’ assertions of fact, including claim EU cost UK £350m a week" "The director of public prosecutions is considering a complaint that voters were misled by the Vote Leave and Leave.EU campaigns, in contravention of electoral law. The complaint about “undue influence” on the referendum campaign has been submitted by an independent group, spearheaded by Prof Bob Watt, an expert in electoral law from the University of Buckingham." "Watt and his colleagues who have prepared the case say it centres on “instances where the leave campaigns continued to make assertions of fact that were knowingly misleading”, including the oft-cited claim of the EU costing the UK £350m a week. That claim, made by Vote Leave, was contrary to evidence from the Office for National Statistics, Watt said. Other instances cited to the DPP include alleged misrepresentations on pro-Brexit leaflets that Nissan and Unilever supported leaving the EU. Watt also cited Vote Leave’s posters that claimed “Turkey is joining the EU”, as well as the assertion that “the UK has no border controls whilst in the EU” when billions are spent on the UK Border Agency. Some other cases had been excluded, Watt said, including George Osborne’s so-called “punishment budget” in support of remain, because it was “an expression of opinion” rather than a matter of fact." https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-misled-voters |
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It is true the EU referendum had the most outrageous porkies . I honestly believe brexiters didn't expect to win or that they would be expected to deliver on the 'promises'. The fact that we've just accepted they lied, and its fair enough to lie to win, is a depressing statement about our politics.
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What I hope is that this enables politics in this country to get cleaned up. ---------- Post added at 13:54 ---------- Previous post was at 13:51 ---------- Brussels asks UK to detail deal with Nissan EU to clarify Japanese carmaker has been pledged no state aid "European Union competition regulators have asked Britain to explain its commitments to Nissan in exchange for the carmaker’s agreement to build new models in the north of England, amid speculation among UK opposition politicians that the company may have been offered a sweetheart deal." "An EU official said that the commission’s inquiries were “standard practice” in response to these kinds of reports, and did not necessarily indicate that it has any suspicions." https://www.ft.com/content/6752a104-...8-79a99e2a4de6 (Non-subscribers can access the full article by Googling the headline in bold type) |
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I voted Leave and I've heard nothing post-Brexit that changes my mind. I voted Leave and you're Leaving with me.
Carp all you like, c'est la démocratie :). |
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