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OLD BOY 15-10-2023 16:16

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36162005)
Your callous disregard for human life is despicable, OB.
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I am not disregarding the impact of this on human life, jfman. My point was that civilians in Gaza voted in Hamas against Fatah in the first place. They knew what they stood for.

I don’t know what you expect Israel to do when they are continually being attacked by Hamas, who hide out amongst the civilian population. One thing is for sure, if it was Britain being attacked in this way, we wouldn’t stand for it either.

You and I would be rightly criticising our government in that situation if they just pussy-footed around in a situation like this.

The Israelies have advised civilians to move to the border area in the south to avoid the retaliation - what else can they be expected to do?

TheDaddy 15-10-2023 16:40

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36162021)
The Israelies have advised civilians to move to the border area in the south to avoid the retaliation - what else can they be expected to do?

Not bomb them when they're moving

jfman 15-10-2023 17:08

Re: Hamas Israel War
 
Based on demographics - the last election being in 2006 - the proportion of the current population old enough to have voted in that election, turnout and those that voted for other parties some 7% of the current population could have voted for Hamas.

To punish people who weren’t even born then for a decision made seventeen years ago by other people is preposterous. A preposterous war crime at that.

Hugh 15-10-2023 17:40

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36162021)
I am not disregarding the impact of this on human life, jfman. My point was that civilians in Gaza voted in Hamas against Fatah in the first place. They knew what they stood for.

I don’t know what you expect Israel to do when they are continually being attacked by Hamas, who hide out amongst the civilian population. One thing is for sure, if it was Britain being attacked in this way, we wouldn’t stand for it either.

You and I would be rightly criticising our government in that situation if they just pussy-footed around in a situation like this.

The Israelies have advised civilians to move to the border area in the south to avoid the retaliation - what else can they be expected to do?

No, they didn’t…

The last elections that were held in the Palestinian Territories (which includes the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) in 2006, and Hamas won a majority (44%) of the vote, and then a Fatah-Hamas Coalition Government was formed. The following year, Hamas seized power in the Gaza Strip, and there have been no elections there since.

OLD BOY 15-10-2023 17:56

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36162025)
Not bomb them when they're moving

No, that’s the trade mark of Hamas.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36162026)
Based on demographics - the last election being in 2006 - the proportion of the current population old enough to have voted in that election, turnout and those that voted for other parties some 7% of the current population could have voted for Hamas.

To punish people who weren’t even born then for a decision made seventeen years ago by other people is preposterous. A preposterous war crime at that.

The point is, Hamas is in charge, just as Hitler was in charge of Germany.

jfman 15-10-2023 17:58

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36162030)
The families in Gaza need to suck on that.


Chris 15-10-2023 18:33

Re: Hamas Israel War
 
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36162028)
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The thread title has changed because events have progressed and the discussion no longer relates only to the initial Hamas terrorist attack.

Individual posts can be given a bespoke title, otherwise they may display a title relating to the post they are replying to.

TheDaddy 15-10-2023 18:39

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36162030)
No, that’s the trade mark of Hamas.

I realise you've got form for not paying attention in this thread but hamas hasn't told anyone to leave and then bombed them repeatedly

Quote:

The point is, Hamas is in charge, just as Hitler was in charge of Germany.
The point changes everytime you get proven wrong, literally what's the point...

Paul 15-10-2023 18:51

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36162030)
No, that’s the trade mark of Hamas.

No .... that was Israel. Pay attention.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67114281

OLD BOY 15-10-2023 19:41

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36162027)
No, they didn’t…

The last elections that were held in the Palestinian Territories (which includes the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) in 2006, and Hamas won a majority (44%) of the vote, and then a Fatah-Hamas Coalition Government was formed. The following year, Hamas seized power in the Gaza Strip, and there have been no elections there since.

44% voting for an ISIS-like terrorist organisation is very telling as to the mindset of Palestinians living in Gaza.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36162035)
I realise you've got form for not paying attention in this thread but hamas hasn't told anyone to leave and then bombed them repeatedly

I agree that Hamas has not told anyone to leave.

Israel says it didn’t bomb people who followed their advice.

Go figure.

Sephiroth 15-10-2023 19:44

Re: Hamas Israel War
 
Hamas told everyone to stay (and get bombed).

OLD BOY 15-10-2023 19:45

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36162037)
No .... that was Israel. Pay attention.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67114281

Israel advised them to leave. They claim not to have carried out that attack. It would have been stupid of them to do so.

Mr K 15-10-2023 19:45

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36162044)
44% voting for an ISIS-like terrorist organisation is very telling as to the mindset of Palestinians living in Gaza.

Not telling of the majority 56% is it? (who will kop it anyway).

OLD BOY 15-10-2023 19:47

Re: Hamas Israel War
 
Yes, well people say that when they analyse the voting figures at elections. The ruling party rarely gets anywhere near 50% of the vote.

Hugh 15-10-2023 19:56

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36162044)
44% voting for an ISIS-like terrorist organisation is very telling as to the mindset of Palestinians living in Gaza.

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I agree that Hamas has not told anyone to leave.

Israel says it didn’t bomb people who followed their advice.

Go figure.

It was 44% of those voting in the Palestinian Authority (Gaza & the West Bank) - and since 65% of the current Gaza Strip population is under 25, they definitely didn’t vote for them…


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