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jfman 17-09-2022 23:33
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134435)

Not when you can accrue more wealth elsewhere, you wouldn’t, not if you were a true capitalist. How do you think they accrued such wealth in the first place? Certainly not by putting their feet up, which some on this forum would undoubtedly do, I’m sure!

That’s why they are lefties..and probably pretty poor!
Why would they forego the means of generating the wealth they have created here to go abroad which has to date accrued to over a million pounds? You’re making the assumption that these are inherently easily transferable. If they were already in a position to do so they would have done so already. A windfall tax of 1% per year for 5 years is unlikely to change those numbers substantially.

I’m not sure who you are insulting by calling them “lefties” and “probably pretty poor”. It’s certainly an unhelpful and unwelcome contribution to a discussion about taxation.

ianch99 18-09-2022 00:19
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134435)
That’s why they are lefties..and probably pretty poor!
You'd be wrong.

OLD BOY 18-09-2022 01:09
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36134438)
You'd be wrong.
You may be a fare exception, ian! :D

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134436)
Why would they forego the means of generating the wealth they have created here to go abroad which has to date accrued to over a million pounds? You’re making the assumption that these are inherently easily transferable. If they were already in a position to do so they would have done so already. A windfall tax of 1% per year for 5 years is unlikely to change those numbers substantially.

I’m not sure who you are insulting by calling them “lefties” and “probably pretty poor”. It’s certainly an unhelpful and unwelcome contribution to a discussion about taxation.
H'mmm...

You are not really a capitalist though, jfman, so I doubt you will understand!

I think you will find that most capitalists are not lefties. Isn't that obvious?

jfman 18-09-2022 08:21
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134439)
You may be a fare exception, ian! :D

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H'mmm...

You are not really a capitalist though, jfman, so I doubt you will understand!

I think you will find that most capitalists are not lefties. Isn't that obvious?
Can you address the points without throwing around political labels, which you have limited understanding of, as insults?

People who disagree with you over the role and function of the state, and who should contribute, do not automatically not understand capitalism or be “lefties”.

Maggy 18-09-2022 11:15
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Topic? I don't really see much discussion about our new PM.Let's stop commenting about other members affiliations and stick to the topic.

Paul 18-09-2022 15:58
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
I warned both of you to stop the other day, you can both take a break from this topic.

Sephiroth 18-09-2022 16:25
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 

While the entertainment is turned off, I’d like to observe what a godsend the Queen’s passing has been to Truss. The spotlight has been off her, the Opposition have had nothing to say and she has had a real opportunity to get her Ducks in a row.

1andrew1 18-09-2022 17:12
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36134448)

While the entertainment is turned off, I’d like to observe what a godsend the Queen’s passing has been to Truss. The spotlight has been off her, the Opposition have had nothing to say and she has had a real opportunity to get her Ducks in a row.
Agreed. Things like The Queue have presented the country in a good light and having lots of heads of states in the country can do no harm either.

Mr K 18-09-2022 18:39
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36134448)

While the entertainment is turned off, I’d like to observe what a godsend the Queen’s passing has been to Truss. The spotlight has been off her, the Opposition have had nothing to say and she has had a real opportunity to get her Ducks in a row.
She can't rely on the monarch dying every week. (Although Charlie is knocking on a bit...)

Lizzie's honeymoon will be very short and her 'Ducks' are prioritising things like bringing imperial measures back, cutting taxes for the rich, and giving bankers unlimited bonuses. She's certainly got her finger on the pulse on what the nation has been crying out for.

GrimUpNorth 18-09-2022 18:49
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36134452)
She can't rely on the monarch dying every week. (Although Charlie is knocking on a bit...)

Lizzie's honeymoon will be very short and her 'Ducks' are prioritising things like bringing imperial measures back, cutting taxes for the rich, and giving bankers unlimited bonuses. She's certainly got her finger on the pulse on what the nation has been crying out for.
Well I think this coming Friday they're planning to fire starting gun on the countdown to the end of Conservative governments for a generation. Borrowing even more to fund tax cuts is a big big gamble and one the normal people (ie those described as lefties) will see through for the smoke and mirrors it is.

OLD BOY 19-09-2022 16:41
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36134452)
She can't rely on the monarch dying every week. (Although Charlie is knocking on a bit...)

Lizzie's honeymoon will be very short and her 'Ducks' are prioritising things like bringing imperial measures back, cutting taxes for the rich, and giving bankers unlimited bonuses. She's certainly got her finger on the pulse on what the nation has been crying out for.
She may have a few crowd pleasers, Mr K, but don’t assume she cannot multi-task.

Liz Truss has a huge agenda, and she should be judged on her ability to navigate it successfully.

I think that is most likely to be what the electorate will do come polling day.

jfman 19-09-2022 21:31
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
:rofl:

You’re absolutely delusional if you think that the electorate will judge her on anything other than the ever declining living standards and public services. For which her agenda has limited meaningful impact.

Julian 19-09-2022 21:39
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Sephiroth 19-09-2022 21:59
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134483)
:rofl:

You’re absolutely delusional if you think that the electorate will judge her on anything other than the ever declining living standards and public services. For which her agenda has limited meaningful impact.
@OB - John has a point. It isn't difficult to read the public mood.

Truss will have to do something spectacular on the NHS/Doctor's appointment front in particular. Likewise inflation - they've got a plan but it's a gamble.

The NI Protocol business is irrelevant. The illegal immigrants problem plays to a smallish proportion of votes.

Boris pretty much broke Britain, or even Osborne 10 years ago with his sill pension reform that drove the doctors away.

Paul 19-09-2022 22:54
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134483)
You’re absolutely delusional if you think that the electorate will judge her on anything other than the ever declining living standards and public services. For which her agenda has limited meaningful impact.
I suspect most will judge on little more than what directly affects them - i.e. the cost of living.


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