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Russ 07-09-2022 11:48

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36133522)
It effects language and ultimately society.

Were you not aware that language evolves with the times?

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36133522)
Language is important, so is the right to say what is implicitly true, even if it upsets some people.

As long as it complies with Laws and decency I support your right to say what you think is the truth.

But as you well know, just because you have an opinion does not mean you have to share it with the world.

In case you've forgotten, I disagree that there are more than 2 genders.

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36133525)
But if a person wants you to say there is no God, would you comply to please them? Not going to hurt you is it?

Can you give me an example of a scenario where someone would require me to say that?

peanut 07-09-2022 11:51

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36133526)
Can you give me an example of a scenario where someone would require me to say that?

I sure you know exactly the point I'm trying to make. You want me to agree and call someone They/Them because it doesn't hurt to do so. But I don't believe in it. So why should I.

So I put it to you, answer my question. One in which we already know the answer. It's the same.

Russ 07-09-2022 11:53

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36133529)
I sure you know exactly the point I'm trying to make. You want me to agree and call someone They/Them because it doesn't hurt to do so. But I don't believe in it. So why should I.

So I put it to you, answer my question. One in which we already know the answer. It's the same.

Oh you want me to answer YOUR question when you've been ignoring mine.

Outstanding.

I can't give a hypothetical answer to a question from a scenario that isn't going to happen.

You however could very well be in a situation where someone you know or around you asks you to use their chosen pronoun.

peanut 07-09-2022 11:57

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36133530)
Oh you want me to answer YOUR question when you've been ignoring mine.

Outstanding.

I can't give a hypothetical answer to a question from a scenario that isn't going to happen.

You however could very well be in a situation where someone you know or around you asks you to use their chosen pronoun.

Well there we have it. I've been clear but you don't accept it. That's fine. As for ignoring your questions the answers are all there, you just ignored most of mine.

I have nothing left to add to this topic, everything I've said it pretty clear enough for anyone else. No point in going round in circles. I'm moot. :tu:

Russ 07-09-2022 12:01

Re: Pronouns
 
Great cop-out :tu:

peanut 07-09-2022 12:02

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36133533)
Great cop-out :tu:

Not at all. I know when it's going nowhere and I'm not falling for your agenda. If you want to carry it on via PM, fine by me. No point in wasting others reading time on here with this.

Russ 07-09-2022 12:10

Re: Pronouns
 
My only agenda was to unsuccessfully get you to answer my questions.

Sephiroth 07-09-2022 12:52

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36133508)
<SNIP>

Well thank the Lord it wouldn’t be taught that way.

If I told you a story about my neighbour but didn’t tell you the sex/gender which pronoun would you use for this person?

Simples. He/she.

Chris 07-09-2022 12:57

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36133539)
Simples. He/she.

Which is clumsy and grammatically sub-optimal.

The efficient and perfectly acceptable way to refer to someone of unknown sex is, and always has been, “they”. You do your arguments no favours at all with your obsessive resistance to this one very minor thing.

Russ 07-09-2022 13:01

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36133539)
Simples. He/she.

Which one though?

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36133540)
Which is clumsy and grammatically sub-optimal.

The efficient and perfectly acceptable way to refer to someone of unknown sex is, and always has been, “they”. You do your arguments no favours at all with your obsessive resistance to this one very minor thing.

:clap:

OLD BOY 07-09-2022 15:24

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36133540)
Which is clumsy and grammatically sub-optimal.

The efficient and perfectly acceptable way to refer to someone of unknown sex is, and always has been, “they”. You do your arguments no favours at all with your obsessive resistance to this one very minor thing.

Yes, but it grates because it is ungrammatical.

However, that’s what I do to keep the peace.

Sephiroth 07-09-2022 15:46

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36133541)
Which one though?:

"He/she".

Mad Max 07-09-2022 15:49

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36133481)
Confusing kids with this pronoun tripe is total shite.

English, Maths and creative stuff is what schools should be teaching.


Spot on.

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Spoiler: 
I'd be truthful - there is a God.


Prove it.

Russ 07-09-2022 15:52

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36133587)
"He/she".

Which one would you use given you don’t know my neighbour’s gender?

Chris 07-09-2022 15:52

Re: Pronouns
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36133583)
Yes, but it grates because it is ungrammatical.

However, that’s what I do to keep the peace.

It is not ungrammatical. On the contrary it is correct English grammar and has been since time immemorial. It is not an invention of radical gender campaigners.

I refer you to Oxford, which has traced the earliest known use of “they” as a singular pronoun where sex is unknown to the year 1375.

https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-...singular-they/


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