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Carth 26-09-2021 11:18
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36094621)
Nobody expected them to.
Some people did, the ones that don't have a grip on reality ;)

Hugh 26-09-2021 12:53
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36094634)
Some people did, the ones that don't have a grip on reality ;)
I don't remember anyone saying that...

Carth 26-09-2021 16:09
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36094651)
I don't remember anyone saying that...
Really?

I remember reading quite a few politician types from different countries saying we should give them a chance because they've 'turned the corner' and other such phrases.

There are always those in society that will plead for another chance to be given to the offender with 168 previous offences . .

Hugh 26-09-2021 17:31
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36094677)
Really?

I remember reading quite a few politician types from different countries saying we should give them a chance because they've 'turned the corner' and other such phrases.

There are always those in society that will plead for another chance to be given to the offender with 168 previous offences . .
I remember this, but nothing about them "turning a corner"…
:confused:

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-08-18/...liban-a-chance
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'It is entirely right for us to be extremely suspicious [of the Taliban] and go on what evidence we've got," General Nick Carter said.

"But again, we would be silly, I think, if we didn't give them a chance".

The military chief said the Taliban, who regained control of Afghanistan in less than a month after Western forces left, should be given "a bit of space to see whether or not they're going to govern in a less repressive, more reasonable, and more inclusive way".

He added: "It may be that they will."

Pierre 26-09-2021 22:07
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36094687)
I remember this, but nothing about them "turning a corner"…
:confused:

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-08-18/...liban-a-chance
Well he was in LaLa land too. Anyone, and I mean anyone, that wasn’t a complete simpleton knew that the Taliban would pick up exactly where they left off.

Any faux shock or disdain that they didn’t, is just that ….fake.

Maggy 27-09-2021 09:46
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58700159

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The Taliban have banned hairdressers in Afghanistan's Helmand province from shaving or trimming beards, saying it breaches their interpretation of Islamic law.

Anyone violating the rule will be punished, Taliban religious police say.

Some barbers in the capital Kabul have said they also received similar orders.

The instructions suggest a return to the strict rulings of the group's past tenure in power, despite promises of a milder form of government.
If they ban everything how are they going to make money/living and keep everyone out of poverty?

1andrew1 27-09-2021 10:30
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36094757)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58700159

If they ban everything how are they going to make money/living and keep everyone out of poverty?
Sadly, I think most are in poverty there anyway, it will just be greater poverty.

Carth 27-09-2021 11:05
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No doubt the humanitarian brigade will throw money, food, clothing etc at them . . . not saying that's a bad thing, but it just ends up supporting the Taliban regime by allowing them to carry on as they are instead of them having to change :(

1andrew1 27-09-2021 11:26
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36094766)
No doubt the humanitarian brigade will throw money, food, clothing etc at them . . . not saying that's a bad thing, but it just ends up supporting the Taliban regime by allowing them to carry on as they are instead of them having to change :(
There's no ideal solution to the current crisis. Without aid they will probably leave the country in greater numbers than they are already doing and end up in refugee camps in neighbouring countries and doubtless people will be unhappy too when some then cross the channel into England.

Sephiroth 27-09-2021 12:42
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094770)
There's no ideal solution to the current crisis. Without aid they will probably leave the country in greater numbers than they are already doing and end up in refugee camps in neighbouring countries and doubtless people will be unhappy too when some then cross the channel into England.


….. which was the perceived problem of the huge influx from the EU - they spoke English rather than French.

1andrew1 29-09-2021 10:11
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36094612)
I'd be interested to know what the UK or other allies would have been able to do once the US "pulled the plug"?
There were some interesting testimonies shared recently about Afghanistan from US generals. They said that keeping just 2,500 troops on the ground would have prevented the collapse of the government.

I'm sure the UK and its remaining allies wouldn't find this a prohibitive number.
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Two top US military officials said they believed that a few thousand troops should have remained in Afghanistan and acknowledged other tactical and intelligence failings during the chaotic withdrawal of armed forces from the country.

During testimony before the Senate armed services committee on Tuesday, Mark Milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, and Frank McKenzie, US commander of troops in the region, both made clear their personal views were at odds with the decision President Joe Biden took to withdraw all troops by his September 11 deadline.

“My view is that 2,500 was an appropriate number to remain, and if we went below that number in fact we would probably witness a collapse in the Afghan government and in the Afghan military,” McKenzie said in testimony, in comments echoed by Milley.
https://www.ft.com/content/5c5dd811-...1-31ac4ef37b23

Carth 29-09-2021 10:58
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Well that's what Military Generals are good at, pushing for 'their boys' to be in the thick of it and waiting for the honors to roll in ;)

Blair was pretty good at it too as I recall

Sephiroth 29-09-2021 11:02
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36095103)
Well that's what Military Generals are good at, pushing for 'their boys' to be in the thick of it and waiting for the honors to roll in ;)

Blair was pretty good at it too as I recall
.... whereas Boris is a fail. He would only want the honours to fall on himself. He is not a credible PM.

heero_yuy 29-09-2021 11:30
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36095103)
Well that's what Military Generals are good at, pushing for 'their boys' to be in the thick of it and waiting for the honors to roll in ;)
Quote:
Pink Floyd - Us and Them

Forward he cried from the rear
and the front rank died
And the general sat, and the lines on the map
moved from side to side.

Carth 29-09-2021 11:30
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36095104)
.... whereas Boris is a fail. He would only want the honours to fall on himself. He is not a credible PM.
There's no credible opposition either . . . although that nice Mr Kim Jong-un fella could work . . can we get him in?


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