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jonbxx 09-03-2020 16:53
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36026721)
Government not going to do anything. I'd suggest they ask the Italian Government what they'd like to have done a week ago.
I am not the greatest fan of the current Government but, to date, they have followed almost to the letter the Pandemic Influenza preparedness plans in place for a number of years. Check from page 34 onwards here - https://assets.publishing.service.go.../dh_131040.pdf

downquark1 09-03-2020 17:14
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36026727)
Which is exactly the same for Flu, every year. :erm:

People in the UK die from Flu every year (on average about 600 people in the UK die from flu, some years are much higher, it was estimated that over 13,000 deaths resulted from flu in 2008-09) and yet the country somehow manages to carry on without insanity setting in. :dozey:
Yeah and the Spanish flu killed over 17 million people, we are fortunate this is not that bad.

I am not advocating any insanity, I pointing out epidemiological facts and appropriate strategy.

RichardCoulter 09-03-2020 17:25
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36026727)
Which is exactly the same for Flu, every year. :erm:

People in the UK die from Flu every year (on average about 600 people in the UK die from flu, some years are much higher, it was estimated that over 13,000 deaths resulted from flu in 2008-09) and yet the country somehow manages to carry on without insanity setting in. :dozey:
But those most at risk of dying from flu, like myself, are offered a free flu jab every year. There isn't as yet a vaccine against the Coronavirus.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026722)
Wel I'm all lready now.:D
:D:D::D

To poke fun at those that are stockpiling, one amusement arcade operator has replaced the toys etc in his grab machine with toilet rolls!

https://www.the-gazette.co.uk/news/n...s-stockpiling/

Paul 09-03-2020 18:45
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36026731)
Yeah and the Spanish flu killed over 17 million people
Over 100 years ago ....
You may as well mention the plague as well.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36026733)
But those most at risk of dying from flu, like myself, are offered a free flu jab every year. There isn't as yet a vaccine against the Coronavirus.
So basically your confirming Flu is even more dangerous, yet no one panics every year like madmen.

nomadking 09-03-2020 19:09
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36026733)
But those most at risk of dying from flu, like myself, are offered a free flu jab every year. There isn't as yet a vaccine against the Coronavirus.

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:D:D::D
To poke fun at those that are stockpiling, one amusement arcade operator has replaced the toys etc in his grab machine with toilet rolls!
https://www.the-gazette.co.uk/news/n...s-stockpiling/
I received a text from my GP a few days ago about the jab. Not sure sitting in a waiting room full of sick people is a good idea.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36026736)
Over 100 years ago ....
You may as well mention the plague as well.

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So basically your confirming Flu is even more dangerous, yet no one panics every year like madmen.
Do the current events around the world happen every year?


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The coronavirus causes the Covid-19 disease. In severe cases, patients have pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, and multiple organ failure that can lead to death.
Pneumonia might be "normal" for flu, but I'm not sure the other 2 problems are.


The mortality and hospitalisation rates are huge in comparison.

Paul 09-03-2020 19:32
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36026740)
Do the current events around the world happen every year?
Huh ?

pip08456 09-03-2020 19:38
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36026740)
I received a text from my GP a few days ago about the jab. Not sure sitting in a waiting room full of sick people is a good idea.

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Do the current events around the world happen every year?


Pneumonia might be "normal" for flu, but I'm not sure the other 2 problems are.


The mortality and hospitalisation rates are huge in comparison.
Your sources are suspect when they say the coronavirus causes Covid-19

nomadking 09-03-2020 20:05
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026745)
Your sources are suspect when they say the coronavirus causes Covid-19
BBC News
I assume they mean this Coronavirus has different presentations and symptoms to other Coronaviruses in the past.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36026744)
Huh ?
Eg When in the past were large areas of Northern Italy "closed off"?

denphone 09-03-2020 20:49
Re: Coronavirus
 
Italy is placing the whole of its country on lock down.

.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...vents-11953507

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...box=1583786866

Mr K 09-03-2020 21:29
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36026755)
Italy is placing the whole of its country on lock down.
Just as well I got my Italy holiday in last month then. Lovely country it is too. Good to see they are taking the right steps regardless of economic consequences. I suspect our Govt. will put themselves and the economy ahead of the nation's health, as demonstrated by today's non action.

nomadking 09-03-2020 21:36
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36026762)
Just as well I got my Italy holiday in last month then. Lovely country it is too. Good to see they are taking the right steps regardless of economic consequences. I suspect our Govt. will put themselves and the economy ahead of the nation's health, as demonstrated by today's non action.
So how many other countries have followed Italy? The levels in Italy are very different from anywhere else except China.
Link

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Italy's coronavirus death toll jumped on Monday by 97 to 463. It is the worst-hit country after China.
WHO
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The sudden increases of cases in Italy, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Republic of Korea are deeply concerning. There are now cases linked to Iran in Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait and Oman, along with cases linked to Italy in Algeria, Austria, Croatia, Germany, Spain and Switzerland.

Mick 09-03-2020 21:40
Re: Coronavirus
 
BREAKING: 5th person dies in UK of COVID-19.

Mr K 09-03-2020 21:42
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36026763)
So how many other countries have followed Italy? The levels in Italy are very different from anywhere else except China.
Link


WHO
They've been unlucky, it could equally as well been us. It was obviously circulating a long time before they were aware. However we are forewarned and we should be forearmed; we shouldn't wait for events to unfold before taking the right actions. Learn from what's happened there.

adzii_nufc 09-03-2020 21:52
Re: Coronavirus
 
Italian prison system pretty much just collapsed - Police union have said they've lost control of 27 prisons.

Virus aside. The current state of the markets and Italy collapsing bit by bit, the damage done by the effects may end up being more than the direct virus.

As for more cancellations. With Serie A being suspended and whatever other leagues that follow in the coming weeks and months it wouldn't be too far out of reach to suggest Euro 2020 will be cancelled if the leagues can't resume in good time.

nomadking 09-03-2020 22:15
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36026765)
They've been unlucky, it could equally as well been us. It was obviously circulating a long time before they were aware. However we are forewarned and we should be forearmed; we shouldn't wait for events to unfold before taking the right actions. Learn from what's happened there.
Germany, France, and Spain all have more cases than the UK. What have they done?


Link

Quote:
Prof Whitty said introducing measures "too early" could become problematic as "anything we do, we have got to be able to sustain".


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