Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36018347)

ahem take you forgot on purpose the islamophobia from Boris and he went back on enquiry promise he made live on tv both parties have very big issues with racism

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36018349)

Whereas Labour continue to ignore anti-Semitism, which is a far bigger problem. The inquiry is being set up, I understand.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36018350)

The actual Prime Minister has made islamophic statements. How much closer to the top do you want?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36018353)

Which statements are you referring to?

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36018354)

The letterboxes one. For a start.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36018355)

Which I have addressed. Next...?

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36018356)

It's islamophic. The fact you made an excuse for it is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36018357)

So that is the best you can do? Read the article and get this in context. This was not an issue of being against Islam (which does not require women to wear burkas), it was against the practice by which some men try to control their women.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36018346)

The problem in the Labour Party is that anti-Semitism comes from the top and doesn't appear to be addressed.

The difference is that the Conservative Party is addressing the issue of Islamaphobia wherever it occurs and it is reported. The trouble is that some people take remarks such as those made by Boris when he talked about 'letterbox' women, ignoring the fact that he said those things to pour scorn on those men who forced their wives and daughters to dress in that way. That is more to do with men bullying women into doing their bidding than it is with religion. If you doubt that, then read the whole article instead of relying on sound bites.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36018354)

The letterboxes one. For a start.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36018318)

New Labour are part of the 40 years of failure that has accumulated 2 trillion pounds of debt with no plans to pay it back. Older generations are leaving younger generations with this burden round their necks.

We need a genuine alternative to the neo-liberal capitalist status quo which has no answers for the genuine problems this country faces.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36018362)

Both parties have declared that the respective issues in their parties will not be tolerated and yet both parties seem to be doing little to nothing to sort out the issues.

I'm not here to profess that the Tories are dealing with it better than Labour or vice versa. They're both as bad as each other

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36018365)

OK, for starters can you stop blaming me (as part of the older generation) for something I haven't done.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36018370)

Individuals no, but collectively yes. Maybe not consciously, but politicians took one off windfalls from privatisation and squandered it leaving us where we are today. 2 trillion in debt.

I'm interested in how 2 trillion is sustainable but 2.2 trillion and holding state assets - like broadband networks - isn't.



The starting point is for politicians to be honest that the low tax economy is essentially a deception funded from one off windfalls.