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Gavin-D 23-07-2018 13:11
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35956106)
Or if you have a connected TV, get TV Player. The solutions are there.
Most of the premium UKTV channels ie GOLD and W are not available through TV player on a TV they are online only

warrenb 23-07-2018 13:12
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35956110)
Most of the premium UKTV channels ie GOLD and W are not available through TV player on a TV they are online only
Exactly, so a person would have to send more money to get channels they were getting on Saturday.

Gavin-D 23-07-2018 13:15
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by warrenb (Post 35956111)
Exactly, so a person would have to send more money to get channels they were getting on Saturday.
And on a far smaller screen

heero_yuy 23-07-2018 13:37
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Quote from Gavin-D:

And on a far smaller screen
My laptop does it full screen (it's an option in the bottom right of the picture in the TVplayer web page) and it has a 1080 HDMI output so you could view it on the main TV.

warrenb 23-07-2018 13:38
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35956115)
My laptop does it full screen (it's an option in the bottom right of the picture in the TVplayer web page) and it has a 1080 HDMI output so you could view it on the main TV.
Lot of effort just to watch a TV channel I could straight to on Saturday.

heero_yuy 23-07-2018 13:41
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
I agree but the ideal solution of VM carryng the channels is not likely to be forthcoming in the near future it seems.

Mr K 23-07-2018 13:54
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35956118)
I agree but the ideal solution of VM carryng the channels is not likely to be forthcoming in the near future it seems.
It depends. it VM really do start to lose customers big time, they might have to swallow humble pie and pay up quickly. I wouldn't blame UKTV if they increased charges.

denphone 23-07-2018 14:06
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35956120)
It depends. it VM really do start to lose customers big time, they might have to swallow humble pie and pay up quickly. I wouldn't blame UKTV if they increased charges.
Well that did not happen with the Sky Basics dispute Mr K so what makes you think that it will be any different now?

Ddonald2016 23-07-2018 14:09
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
Here is what martin lewis says https://twitter.com/martinslewis/sta...387061766?s=12

cheekyangus 23-07-2018 14:10
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35956076)
It would be interesting to know:

- how many people who have Pay TV have the same TV setup and tuned into Freeview as a backup, just in case

- how many people who have Pay TV end up mainly watching channels they can definitely receive through an aeriel for free
(i.e. it would definitely work in their premises, not just in theory, as some people have likes of local geography, buildings that stop signal being watchable)
The reason I mentioned it was that until Digital Switchover I couldn't get Freeview here. Telewest/Virgin Media were my only way to get digital television and they would have been (there's an offshoot story here but I won't tell you about the indoor satellite dish right now :) ) until August 2010 when the Relay transmitter came online with switchover.

Currently every screen (I use that word as I'm including computer monitors) here has a tuner inbuilt or connected AND they are all, at the very least, tuned in as backup.

If I went by postcode I'm in a Relay transmitter coverage area. TVs in the house that only have an indoor aerial only get the main PSB multiplexes (3 multiplexes). Those rooms that have a connection to the roof aerial get 9 multiplexes!
(3xPSB, 3xCOM SD and, to varying degrees of success, the lesser coverage 2xHD ones...oh and somehow even the Local TV one)

Why this difference? When the installer (maybe a year after switchover) came to install FreeSat and a roof aerial (to replace the one in the attic) he had the sense to try pointing the aerial at the Main mast. Our roof aerial is the only one in the street/block not pointing at the Relay.

Personally I can't have a Digital Terrestrial Tuner and not have it tuned in, even if it's just a wire aerial on the window sill getting 15 channels. I find it reassuring knowing every screen can fall back on the basics if there are problems with cable or satellite signals.

Short version...most TVs in house get the 5 Free-To-Air UKTV channels, either via Main transmitter or Freesat dish. Those limited to window sill aerials are without UKTV channels.

The irony of this ramble... you'll all have tuned out long ago. :D

Gavin-D 23-07-2018 14:16
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35956121)
Well that did not happen with the Sky Basics dispute Mr K so what makes you think that it will be any different now?
Back then sky only had a few channels on VM and VM themselves didn't have around 4million TV customers like they have now according to various media reports

denphone 23-07-2018 14:19
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35956124)
Back then sky only had a few channels on VM and VM themselves didn't have around 4million TV customers like they have now according to various media reports
Virgin Media had about 3.3 million subscribers back then Gavin.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6390655.stm


And lost customers because of the dispute.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...customers.html


And more headlines from then in which we are hearing the same language again 10 years on..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6389015.stm

Mr K 23-07-2018 14:41
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35956121)
Well that did not happen with the Sky Basics dispute Mr K so what makes you think that it will be any different now?
There wasn't nearly as much outcry, national news and unhappy customers as there are now. But who knows, if both sides are stubborn they'll both suffer.
(just hoping my hard drive freeview recorder has recorded 'Juliet Bravo' today - it hasn't been asked to record anything for years !)

Paul 23-07-2018 14:45
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35956120)
It depends. it VM really do start to lose customers big time, they might have to swallow humble pie and pay up quickly. I wouldn't blame UKTV if they increased charges.
Once lost, most are unlikely to come back.

Maybe Virgin dont really want to do TV anymore, and just want to concentrate on BB ?

denphone 23-07-2018 14:48
Re: VM loses UKTV channels
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35956129)
There wasn't nearly as much outcry, national news and unhappy customers as there are now. But who knows, if both sides are stubborn they'll both suffer.
(just hoping my hard drive freeview recorder has recorded 'Juliet Bravo' today - it hasn't been asked to record anything for years !)
If my decrepit memory serves me right l think you will find there was quite a lot of bad blood then as that is why it took 18 months for them to kiss and make up.


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