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Hugh 24-05-2018 16:18

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44242558

Quote:

Trump cancels Kim summit amid North Korea 'hostility'

US President Donald Trump has cancelled a summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, saying the world had "lost a great opportunity for lasting peace".

He said his decision was because of "tremendous anger and open hostility" in a recent North Korean statement.

In a letter to Mr Kim, he said he was still looking forward to meeting him "some day".

OLD BOY 24-05-2018 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35944993)
North Korea was flying missles for years. about 4-5 Presidents did nothing to promote peace. South Korea Minister today, said the Summit is down to Trump and it really is. This would not have happened under a Hillary Presidency.

Nor under a Trump presidency, it seems :erm:

Damien 24-05-2018 19:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35947852)
Nor under a Trump presidency, it seems :erm:

It could change again. I was skeptical of this whole thing and people got too excited. North Korea are famously unpredictable and have had various agreements before which they then backed out off.

I think long-term this will fail but I wouldn't be surprised to see this meeting happen anyway. Also China and South Korea are apparently still involved so maybe it will happen with them.

Hugh 24-05-2018 19:22

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https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...0?guccounter=1
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South Korea was at a loss for words Thursday after President Donald Trump’s announcement that he was scrapping next month’s planned nuclear summit with North Korea.

“We are attempting to make sense of what, precisely, President Trump means,” South Korean presidential spokesman Kim Eui-kyeom said in a statement.

Damien 24-05-2018 19:23

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He could have at least consulted them, everything is so off the cuff.

Mr K 24-05-2018 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35947882)
He could have at least consulted them, everything is so off the cuff.

He did a tweet, what more do they want ?!

Mick 24-05-2018 21:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35947882)
He could have at least consulted them, everything is so off the cuff.

Latest: Senior White House official says North Korea promised Pompeo that international observers would be able to witness destruction of nuclear site. But that didn’t happen only journalists invited.

TheDaddy 24-05-2018 23:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35947895)
He did a tweet, what more do they want ?!

Exactly, they should try following him, then they'd be in the know like the rest of us

OLD BOY 24-05-2018 23:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35947882)
He could have at least consulted them, everything is so off the cuff.

On both sides! You must understand that the NK leadership are a slippery and unreliable bunch and normal diplomacy doesn't work with them. If Kim is going to be unpredictable, then maybe he will understand Trump. Fire with fire!

Hugh 25-05-2018 00:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35947952)
On both sides! You must understand that the NK leadership are a slippery and unreliable bunch and normal diplomacy doesn't work with them. If Kim is going to be unpredictable, then maybe he will understand Trump. Fire with fire!

When discussing nuclear war, probably not the most apt comment.

Thermonuclear war - sub-optimal for ongoing survival.

Damien 25-05-2018 09:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35947952)
On both sides! You must understand that the NK leadership are a slippery and unreliable bunch and normal diplomacy doesn't work with them.

No disagreement here. It's why I was so pessimistic in the first place.

OLD BOY 25-05-2018 09:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35947960)
When discussing nuclear war, probably not the most apt comment.

Thermonuclear war - sub-optimal for ongoing survival.

I'm afraid it's the only language that Kim understands. All this time, NK has been bellicose, threatening, manipulative. It makes agreements and then breaks them. This pattern of behaviour does need to be challenged. Go soft on these people and they will walk all over you, probably your dead body.

Damien 27-05-2018 07:47

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Looks like it's back on again!

Hugh 27-05-2018 08:56

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There appears to be some confusion.

Quote:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The Failing @nytimes quotes “a senior White House official,” who doesn’t exist, as saying “even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.” WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources.

4:21 PM - May 26, 2018
This information was given to the New York Times, and 50 other News reporters in a White House Briefing Room (with 200 others on taking part through a Conference Call) by a White House Press Official, and it was arranged by the White House Press Office.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...h-korea-609617
Quote:

President Donald Trump slammed the New York Times Saturday for using “phony sources” in a story citing a White House official – but the comments the paper referred to came from a formal background briefing attended by multiple news organizations and widely reported.

Trump appeared to be responding to a Times story about his on-again, off-again plans for a June 12 summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un..

POLITICO was among the news organizations that participated in the call and reported the official’s comments at the time.

Reporters were quick to call the president out following his tweet.

“I mean, every reporter on the call knows who this official was, and this official exists,” Mike Warren, a senior writer for the conservative Weekly Standard wrote on Twitter. “And we all heard the official say it.”
In fact, there is an audio recording of the meeting, and of the "non-existent" Senior White House official who is named.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...d-doesnt-exist

Quote:

An audio recording of a conversation between reporters and a senior White House official released Saturday disproved President Trump's claims that a source quoted by The New York Times "doesn't exist."

Trump lashed out at the Times on Twitter Saturday, saying the paper had used "phony sources" and quoted a member of his staff "who doesn’t exist." But audio released Saturday, and reports backed up by other news outlets, point out that the source does, in fact exist.

Before the audio release, Trump was immediately called out by reporters for his false claims.

4. I've obtained audio of the WH press briefing. You can hear Raj Shah, Deputy Press Secretary, introduce Pottinger (along with the terms - which are standard) and then Pottinger makes the statement that POTUS says was never made. Lots of reporters in briefing room and on phone. pic.twitter.com/2gEYkRSyTv

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) May 26, 2018
Journalist Yashar Ali, who posted the audio to Twitter, identified the source as National Security Council official Matt Pottinger. In the clip, deputy press secretary Raj Shah introduces Pottinger at an on-background meeting and asks reporters to refer to Pottinger as "a senior White House official."

Damien 27-05-2018 09:30

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Doesn’t matter, he knows his most ardent supporters won’t read the rebuttal.


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