Re: STM always enforced?
 

If I had to guess, I'd say the fact that 120Mbit going to almost exactly 100Mbit is partly where that 16% figure came from.

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Great news! 100 Meg is always will be but it a big blow to upload thought. Hopefully they going to get rid of traffic management soon after xmas.

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Same here! Everytime I boot the SH I go from 70mbps to full speed even if STM has only been on 5 mins.

Edit and again! 8GB down STM came back on after about 2 mins to 70mbps reboot and getting full speed again LOL

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Maybe it's not actually on right if I can reboot and lose it. ;)

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Yeah, I'm back to being STM'd again. I think the Virgin article said it'd be rolled out within a couple of weeks.

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Does your IP address change each time you reboot? Wondering if the leases have been set up properly on the DHCP servers and if the STM is done by IP.

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Well lets just hope this means VM will remove STM but I am not going to get to happy as VM will do something else to ruin this like introduce usage caps lol.

Re: STM always enforced?
 

They might do but if they say 500GB per month. That's fine. But, if it was 100GB per month, no way!

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Dunno. I'll let someone else try that. And there's no way they can introduce caps, as that would not be unlimited at all.

Re: STM always enforced?
 

ASA would slap VM in their face if they brought in caps!

Re: STM always enforced?
 

I'm curious exactly what rate will be applied though. As you know the 120Mbit service is actually rate limited at 133Mbit pre-STM

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Nobody's actually clarified whether it's the STM equipment or the shaping equipment which is supposedly being moved from the edge network to the core but if it is the STM kit then it would have to be IP based, since (well, MPLS aside) that's all the core network runs on. Core equipment will have no direct access to data about subscriber identity or MAC.

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Hah, let's not start that again...

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ASAP already slap VM in the face on an almost weekly basis

Re: STM always enforced?
 

When I did it I checked and my IP didn't change. But it came back on about about 5 mins after even with no traffic.

Will see what it's like when it actually kicks in.

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Indeed, I was wondering this myself. I'd guess it would be exactly 100.8Mbps or whatever the figure was, rather than any overprovisioning. That's what it seems to be with the current STM.

In fairness, they have it in for BT as well. Virgin is probably worse, but BT aren't much better (And I think Talktalk is prone to ASA complaints as well).

Usage caps would be commercial suicide, even at something like 500GB a month. Plus I don't think they actually help with congestion much.

How has upload taken a blow? Have they reduced the upload thresholds or something? (I don't remember the old figures).

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Recently the upload reduction was -50% whether peak weekday or weekend times, now its -65%, i know it has been -75% at some point in the past but -50 to -65% is a recent change. That really is a blow considering upload isn't very fast on virgin in the first place.

Funny that they've changed the download STM to only -16% after customer feedback when the majority that i've read here and on the VM forum didn't mind the download STM too much as it was still fast, but they did mind the upload reduction.

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Are you definitely sure about that? I remember it being greater than 50%.
In fact, here's an article from last June: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...icy-again.html

Re: STM always enforced?
 

Sorry i forget that there were differing perspectives with STM over the summer. On 120mb the upload reduction was -50% from when they rolled out the stm trial at the start of the summer until very recently, at the same time those still on 100mb had the -65%. The numbers listed on the site were not what was being applied, at least to those of us who were posting int he STM trial thread on the VM forum.

So for all intents and purposes those of us on 120mb went from the old STM with the 10gb(?) threshold or whatever it was to the new low thresholds and -50% then in the past couple of weeks to -65%.