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gadge 08-11-2011 14:34

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35327218)
:D:D:D

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Source ? At the maxmium they have capacity for 344 channels if you include the additional 44 HD channels they will have the capacity for.

I think cable can cope with way more than 344 channels hence the reason they were turning off analogue.

HD Boy 08-11-2011 14:36

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35327224)
where are they going to fit premier sports?

They will sacrifice a few HD channels to get other SD channels.

2 MPEG2 HD channels are carried on one stream and 8 SD TV channels can be carried on one stream.

Also when Virgin Media switch HD channels to MPEG4 after everyone has migrated to tivo in 4 or 5 years time. That will free up space for more channels.

Alan Fry 08-11-2011 14:39

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35327226)
They will sacrifice a few HD channels to get other SD channels.

2 MPEG2 HD channels are carried on one stream and 8 SD TV channels can be carried on one stream.

Also when Virgin Media switch HD channels to MPEG4 after everyone has migarted to tivo 4 or 5 years. That will free up space for more channels.

so have many channels can fit into virgin media?

HD Boy 08-11-2011 14:42

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35327227)
so have many channels can fit into virgin media?

It all depends on how many HD channels are broadcasting in 2 years time. They might not even be 80 HD channels in 2 years. They could use some of the bandwith which can not be used because they is not 80 HD channels in 2 years time for some more SD channels.

Tim Deegan 08-11-2011 14:46

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35327224)
where are they going to fit premier sports?

They will make space by not having the minority channels that you want.

HD Boy 08-11-2011 14:47

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35327233)
They will make space by not having the minority channels that you want.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

stereohaven 08-11-2011 15:16

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Originally Posted by greeninferno (Post 35327199)
I have just had Tivo installed moving over from SkyHD

i would say the only advantage sky now have is the few missing HD channels they don't allow on virgin.

The Tivo box is streets ahead.

Glad to hear it, my TiVo arrives on the 22nd November! :D

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35327211)
...virgin media can't add every +1 channels and every minority channels that exists on Sky...

In my view, the only real reason/benefit to Sky having so many +1 channels is because it helps the Sky+ box as it only has two tuners. Having time shifted channels makes it easier to avoid recording clashes at peak times (for those that don't use the basic search facility and record stuff late at night/early hours).

With 3/4 tuners and on demand for the main channels this isn't an issue with Virgin. Well, I hope not, guess I'll soon find out!

And I repeat, the majority of these "minority channels" are available if you keep your Sky box (which is yours after all).

Can someone stop this merry-go-round please, I want to get off! :nutter:

HD Boy 08-11-2011 15:33

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Originally Posted by stereohaven (Post 35327241)
Glad to hear it, my TiVo arrives on the 22nd November! :D



In my view, the only real reason/benefit to Sky having so many +1 channels is because it helps the Sky+ box as it only has two tuners. Having time shifted channels makes it easier to avoid recording clashes at peak times (for those that don't use the basic search facility and record stuff late at night/early hours).

With 3/4 tuners and on demand for the main channels this isn't an issue with Virgin. Well, I hope not, guess I'll soon find out!

And I repeat, the majority of these "minority channels" are available if you keep your Sky box (which is yours after all).

Can someone stop this merry-go-round please, I want to get off! :nutter:

:clap::clap: Can someone now close this thread please.

Stephen 08-11-2011 15:37

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There is no reason to close it.

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35327226)
They will sacrifice a few HD channels to get other SD channels.

2 MPEG2 HD channels are carried on one stream and 8 SD TV channels can be carried on one stream.

Also when Virgin Media switch HD channels to MPEG4 after everyone has migrated to tivo in 4 or 5 years time. That will free up space for more channels.

Am sorry but where on earth are you getting this 'info' from?

HD Boy 08-11-2011 15:40

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Mr. Berkett expects all of Virgin Media's cable customers to be on TiVo over the next four or five years
http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy...w=1366&bih=522
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Today's news continues Virgin's big push for TiVo and also marks the online ordering death of V+ HD. The legacy PVR is now no longer available to order from Virgin's website. It was going to happen sooner or later, and its an important step towards Virgin's long-term plan to get all of their TV customers on MPEG 4 compatible hardware, which would mean reduced bandwidth usage for linear HD channels and hopefully, more HD channels.
http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...n-fee-for.html

Alan Fry 08-11-2011 15:48

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Originally Posted by stereohaven (Post 35327241)
Glad to hear it, my TiVo arrives on the 22nd November! :D



In my view, the only real reason/benefit to Sky having so many +1 channels is because it helps the Sky+ box as it only has two tuners. Having time shifted channels makes it easier to avoid recording clashes at peak times (for those that don't use the basic search facility and record stuff late at night/early hours).

With 3/4 tuners and on demand for the main channels this isn't an issue with Virgin. Well, I hope not, guess I'll soon find out!

And I repeat, the majority of these "minority channels" are available if you keep your Sky box (which is yours after all).

Can someone stop this merry-go-round please, I want to get off! :nutter:

so can virgin do a 6 tuner box

HD Boy 08-11-2011 15:56

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35327267)
so can virgin do a 6 tuner box

If this came to Virgin Media you would be able to record 4 shows at once while watching one you recorded eariler

TiVo announces 2Tb, four tuner box in the US
http://vmhd.blogspot.com/2011/09/tiv...box-in-us.html

Tim Deegan 08-11-2011 15:57

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35327267)
so can virgin do a 6 tuner box

How many people would want to record 6 programs at once? Especially with catch up TV

Alan Fry 08-11-2011 16:11

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35327279)
How many people would want to record 6 programs at once? Especially with catch up TV

some do

Jameseh 08-11-2011 16:16

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35327287)
some do

Go build yourself a Media Center PC, you can build yourself one with 24 tuners (8 DVB-S2, 8 DVB-T2, 8 DVB-C). Then you can record Argos TV all you like.


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